what are the ways in which we avoid catalyst?

[AnthroHeart]

I think I avoid catalyst in many ways. But life hasn't always been kind.

[Argus Pheasant]

I hold a slightly different opinion on this issue, I don't think that we are somehow 'wrong' or 'inferior' in unable to deal with much catalysts on earth. I think catalysts are what promote us to attend a more balancing state until we are totally undistorted which means that would be totally merged into the great Unity until we are done with the catalysts issue where there is no imbalances around us. Thus, everything that happened in this universe unperceived or perceived to us that we still regard as different from overselves are catalysts awaiting for us to deal with, to digest and to make balances until we attend a more balancing state. However, Ra also said that a perfectly balanced entity would be reponsible for all the other entities on this planet which is hardly possible. Also each individual entity has its own way and rate to perceive and digest the experinces provided to them due to inherent differences of each individual.Putting too much experiences in an instance is of great danger to one and maybe cause collapses of minds under the great pressure from realizing the great catalysts for them to deal with in their lifetime.   Therefore, we are right on the speed we choose to work on catalysts or avoid them even though we are much often passivated by our innate veils on minds and existed ideological systems evolved  including cultural or group distorted awareness or biases that deluded us from recognising the Reality by subtle influences casted upon our minds. Because the rate of facing or dealing with catalysts and working them on our emotions is not easy and depend upon our bearing capacities. That remind me what Q'uo often said before each session that we should always choose to hear the things that we find most resonated with us and put the others aside so that we will choose the most agreeable patterns and speed to deal with these catalysts without being overwhelmed by knowing too much information beyond our current capacity and our free will wouldn't be infringed.

[Infinite Unity]

catalyst is that thing which is recognised by the self as being the trigger or lever for change that will lead to unblocking.

so in all respects, catalyst is a force for greater balance.  So that being the case, why does Ra mention on many occassions that this planet has lots of unused catalyst?  what is it about our society that leads to an avoidance of catalyst?

I can think of a few (from my own life).

* we don't acknowledge the catalyst (a case of denial.  It is like having kitchen waste in the bin, and it gets smellier and smellier, and yet we refuse to acknowledge there is a problem, becuz if we did, we would have to do something about it (ie stop being lazy and do something different than what we are currently doing) ).

* we acknowledge the catalyst, but don't want to talk about it (talking about one's emotions, feelings and current state allows others to offer their viewpoints and perspective, and is in a way, a 'calling' for assistance to help resolve the situation.  When we bottle it up inside, we are not allowing for the full opportunity to resolve the catalyst.  Talking about it (with friends, with people on these forums) enables a greater 'light' to be shone on the catalyst, and then its subsequent resolution).

* we acknowledge the catalyst, but its too painful, and don't want to deal with it (this is the approach of distraction and sleep.  I had a friend's father who was a heavy drinker over many many years becuz they had an underlying depression issue.  Instead of facing the catalyst of depression, they 'dulled' it out of existence by getting drunk-faced every opportunity they could while still maintaining the apperance of a job and a family.  But using drugs in this way (this particular way) with things like alchohol and in the old days, opium, is a way of not thinking about the catalyst, ie not dealing with it essentially).

* we 'project' the catalyst onto someone else (in this case, we don't even really acknowledge, own, or realise that the catalyst is 'ours'.  We hold onto the belief that the catalyst is someone else being lazy, someone else being distorted, or someone else being a troublemaker.  It's all 'them' and not in any way related to us.  This is a mental mis-identificaiton with the catalyst, and as such, it cannot be used or processed by the self until this is seen to be the case).

anyway, learning to view and accept all the catalyst that is present in my life has enabled a greater use of it (more efficient processing) and as such, I believe, can accelerate one's progress ... if that is what one wishes for.

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66.34 Catalyst is offered to the entity. If it is not used by the mind complex it will then filter through to the body complex and manifest as some form of physical distortion. The more efficient the use of catalyst, the less physical distortion to be found.

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We over-generalize as always, for there are many cases of pre-incarnative decisions which result in physical or mental limitations and distortions, but we feel that you are addressing the question of widespread distortions towards misery of one form or another.

Indeed, on some third-density planetary spheres catalyst has been used more efficiently. In the case of your planetary sphere there is much inefficient use of catalyst and, therefore, much physical distortion.

Comfortability, deflection, isolation, resistance, anger, blame, laziness, dependancy. Anything that does not account for there being one, or admitting ones own responsibility and being the causation of all there is. Especially within the parameters of the current experience/incarnation.

[RitaJC]

I'd answer the question of the OP: because of ignorance and innocent confusion

[MangusKhan]

Once the catalyst has filtered down to the body complex, how hard is it to undo this? I currently have a friend whose back is so bad that he is now on a permanent feed of oxycodone at the ripe old age of 24. Neither me or my other friend know what to do with him. I foresee unhappy endings if he does not get proper spiritual healing.

[AnthroHeart]

See if you can find a QHHT practitioner.
My mom used that with me, to heal someone else with a bad back.
It works with higher self in a hypnotic state.

[MangusKhan]

See if you can find a QHHT practitioner.
My mom used that with me, to heal someone else with a bad back.
It works with higher self in a hypnotic state.

Thanks Wolf, I've seen some talk about this QHHT on here and it does seem helpful. There's a handful of practitioners around where we live so I'll talk to him about it.

[Tae]

Once the catalyst has filtered down to the body complex, how hard is it to undo this? I currently have a friend whose back is so bad that he is now on a permanent feed of oxycodone at the ripe old age of 24. Neither me or my other friend know what to do with him. I foresee unhappy endings if he does not get proper spiritual healing.

Oh boy yeah, I know someone who went down that route and is finally drug-free from the oxy addiction (except they had fibromyalgia diagnosed as the reason for the pain that led to taking the prescription drugs which in my opinion rapidly became the real problem). Oxy is not the solution. I wish I was there, I'm really good at healing backs (the fact that I'm not a masseuse is a waste of near magical talent to the world). I can't give a remote massage though. Get him to some Chinese medicine place where they can stick some needles in him and get his chi moving around. At 24, if it is tension being carried in the muscles from catalyst, he can definitely try strength train, relaxation train, improve his posture, etc and in the long term improve his situation–I had far more back pain when I was in my young twenties than I do now at almost 30, though that would seem to be the opposite of what is expected. I do a lot of work on myself using a combination of a foam roller, a massage stick/hook, a TENs unit, and any knobs present in the house that line up to my sore spots (pretty much like a cat). The most miraculous topical product I've found to release pain is a topical product called Mountain Magic Liniment, no affiliation but boy have I got to get myself another bottle of that stuff sometime.

These are not strictly Law of One answers of course...

[AnthroHeart]

Tae,

Does that Mountain Magic Liniment have chili extract in it to burn away pain?
Or is it like BenGay which smells like an athlete?
I know someone who uses a prescription pain med that's a gel and is
the only thing that works for her. She doesn't want any that heat up or
get cold. She gets the tubes for free though, because she is on disability
and Medicaid.

She also uses Lidocaine patches when she is really sore,
and takes hydrocodone (generic Vicodin) because of her fibromyalgia.

[MangusKhan]

Once the catalyst has filtered down to the body complex, how hard is it to undo this? I currently have a friend whose back is so bad that he is now on a permanent feed of oxycodone at the ripe old age of 24. Neither me or my other friend know what to do with him. I foresee unhappy endings if he does not get proper spiritual healing.

Oh boy yeah, I know someone who went down that route and is finally drug-free from the oxy addiction (except they had fibromyalgia diagnosed as the reason for the pain that led to taking the prescription drugs which in my opinion rapidly became the real problem). Oxy is not the solution. I wish I was there, I'm really good at healing backs (the fact that I'm not a masseuse is a waste of near magical talent to the world). I can't give a remote massage though. Get him to some Chinese medicine place where they can stick some needles in him and get his chi moving around. At 24, if it is tension being carried in the muscles from catalyst, he can definitely try strength train, relaxation train, improve his posture, etc and in the long term improve his situation–I had far more back pain when I was in my young twenties than I do now at almost 30, though that would seem to be the opposite of what is expected. I do a lot of work on myself using a combination of a foam roller, a massage stick/hook, a TENs unit, and any knobs present in the house that line up to my sore spots (pretty much like a cat). The most miraculous topical product I've found to release pain is a topical product called Mountain Magic Liniment, no affiliation but boy have I got to get myself another bottle of that stuff sometime.

These are not strictly Law of One answers of course...

Thanks Tae, that Mountain Magic stuff has a good reputation. I'm gonna buy some and practice my masseuse skills on this guy whenever I next return home. In the meantime I've let him know these things exist as options, and he's open-minded to try anything at this point.

If you have such a gift for massage and back healing then why don't you become a masseuse? Seems like a good service to render in a world full of ailing bodies.

[EvolvingPhoenix]

I've noticed one thing I tend to do is scatter my focus. When I start healing one issue, another one starts really bothering me. I become heavily focused on that one and once I start to address that one enough, a new issue starts bothering me, so my attention is all over the place. Lack of focus basically, keeps me from delving too deep so to speak. So lacking focus or having your focus scattered across numerous issues without really taking the proper time for any of them is another way one avoids catalyst.

[Tae]

Tae,

Does that Mountain Magic Liniment have chili extract in it to burn away pain?
Or is it like BenGay which smells like an athlete?
I know someone who uses a prescription pain med that's a gel and is
the only thing that works for her. She doesn't want any that heat up or
get cold. She gets the tubes for free though, because she is on disability
and Medicaid.

She also uses Lidocaine patches when she is really sore,
and takes hydrocodone (generic Vicodin) because of her fibromyalgia.

I mean, if she gets prescription tubes for free she should totally accept those. It's more like BenGay than chili, it does have menthol as one of the ingredients, as well as many other herbal and essential oil type ingredients which made it a superior product.

Thanks Tae, that Mountain Magic stuff has a good reputation. I'm gonna buy some and practice my masseuse skills on this guy whenever I next return home. In the meantime I've let him know these things exist as options, and he's open-minded to try anything at this point.

If you have such a gift for massage and back healing then why don't you become a masseuse? Seems like a good service to render in a world full of ailing bodies.

The truth is that I did for about 2 years which is why I make these claims about my abilities. They are what other people have said about me–I developed a reputation as a very gifted body worker, and this attracted a couple of the wrong kind of clients. To be quite honest, I was raped at work and didn't like how my boss handled it and this drove a wedge between me and the industry, which was a shame because they were willing to pay for my training to become a traditional Chinese practitioner (not just massage but acupuncture and herbal medicine, etc) if I continued to work for them full time. When I received an opportunity to pursue art, I cut all of my ties to that world.

I don't actually believe I made the wrong decision because I would not have enjoyed feeling beholden to someone whose shop also supported the business of some winky wink extras. However, as one good gentle soul, I've felt very much uncomfortable with the idea of re-opening practice independently in my own home. I know that when the opportunity emerges for me to become a healer again, I'll find the right space. It's frustrating because I was doing a lot of good but I don't know how to moderate/vet people to ensure I only get safe clients as a non-RMT offering a spiritual healing gift delivered through massage. It's not that the work is illegal, but that the work attracts people who want something else.   And I as someone who put myself there to heal their wounds found that almost unbearably difficult, as I wanted myself to be able to fix everything. My biggest regret is no longer being able to work on the people who came to me through that specific business who received definite spiritual healing. Gods, there was one client who cried every time, the whole way through, just an empty black hole aching for love.

This is why at the moment I only work on friends for free. Lucky bums. I have not yet figured out how I will progress because I sorely miss being a healer.

[MangusKhan]

Thanks Tae, that Mountain Magic stuff has a good reputation. I'm gonna buy some and practice my masseuse skills on this guy whenever I next return home. In the meantime I've let him know these things exist as options, and he's open-minded to try anything at this point.

If you have such a gift for massage and back healing then why don't you become a masseuse? Seems like a good service to render in a world full of ailing bodies.

The truth is that I did for about 2 years which is why I make these claims about my abilities. They are what other people have said about me–I developed a reputation as a very gifted body worker, and this attracted a couple of the wrong kind of clients. To be quite honest, I was raped at work and didn't like how my boss handled it and this drove a wedge between me and the industry, which was a shame because they were willing to pay for my training to become a traditional Chinese practitioner (not just massage but acupuncture and herbal medicine, etc) if I continued to work for them full time. When I received an opportunity to pursue art, I cut all of my ties to that world.

I don't actually believe I made the wrong decision because I would not have enjoyed feeling beholden to someone whose shop also supported the business of some winky wink extras. However, as one good gentle soul, I've felt very much uncomfortable with the idea of re-opening practice independently in my own home. I know that when the opportunity emerges for me to become a healer again, I'll find the right space. It's frustrating because I was doing a lot of good but I don't know how to moderate/vet people to ensure I only get safe clients as a non-RMT offering a spiritual healing gift delivered through massage. It's not that the work is illegal, but that the work attracts people who want something else.   And I as someone who put myself there to heal their wounds found that almost unbearably difficult, as I wanted myself to be able to fix everything. My biggest regret is no longer being able to work on the people who came to me through that specific business who received definite spiritual healing. Gods, there was one client who cried every time, the whole way through, just an empty black hole aching for love.

This is why at the moment I only work on friends for free. Lucky bums. I have not yet figured out how I will progress because I sorely miss being a healer.

That's a real mess what happened to you at your old masseuse job, sorry to hear that. I would never have thought that someone would go to a remedial massage therapy with that in mind. My best wishes for you and your healing journey, and I'm glad your friends still get the benefit of your work.

[Loki]

Interesting topic maybe it should be somehow permanently displayed.

How to deal with catalyst is I believe the fundamental question of the third density we incarnated in, considering that catalyst has the most central role in third density spiritual evolution.

People here are talking about avoiding catalyst I see this as possible as avoiding air.
The question is how you react to catalyst and there are two ways to react in my opinion:
To oppose it (use it) or to surrender to it (not using it).

One simple example of how catalyst works in my opinion:

You are an entity lacking self esteem. Balancing yourself mean gaining self esteem through catalyst use. Higher self and you decided such lessons for this incarnation.

As result life gonna bring your way catalyst as people that will have a tendency to bully or take advantage and your reaction will be to
feel miserable and not worth it because of them. You start behaving the bullish way towards other people in return. This means you surrender to catalyst and not use it to balance yourself. After years of unused catalyst you start having health issue which are caused by all the anger accumulated during the years of unused catalyst.

The real progress would have been made if instead of getting miserable when mistreated you would try to understand the reason why someone behaves in a certain way around you. You would realize this is not your fault and is not personal. You start not to be affected by that behavior and stop being annoyed by those persons. You even find in your heart some empathy for those people thinking about possible experiences that made them the way they are. You don't give them the control of you but you just not start behaving like them. This means you used the catalyst by opposing the instinct of getting angry and feeling sorry for yourself. This understanding will open your green ray center followed by the blue ray one. Years will pass and your health issues will not show up anymore.  

[Loki]

I wonder how much of my catalyst is programmed by me, and how much is from the sub-Logos.

Sub-logos catalyst is called Creation.
You are the "Sub-logos catalyst".
You will be that unique combination of "biases, tendencies and talents" till your return to Creator and after that your journey of feelings and dreams will be remembered for the next infinity of octaves any you'll be forever part of Creator's joy.

[sillypumpkins]

hey guys

This thread has been helpful to me so I'm going to bump it while also using it as a way to help myself understand catalyst better

so I've been in the midst of some pretty gnarly catalyst the last few weeks. I've been getting a better grasp at what catalyst is and how to most effectively process it. with that being said, I would like to express how I view catalyst, and how to best process it. My hope is that someone can chime in in case I have a misunderstanding, big or small.

I'm going to start with an example: I am laying in bed, trying to sleep, and my neighbors start becoming very loud. I feel I can no longer fall asleep, and I start to feel anger inside me.

My understanding is this: my neighbor's noise is the trigger for the catalyst, which is anger.

When I feel anger inside me, I have a few options, I can ignore it (i.e suppress it,) I can let myself become angry and act out, or I can reflect on the anger I feel, and oppose it with contrary emotions, like calmness. The last option seems to be "the most effective" use of this catalyst

Again, I'm sharing my understanding to see if others have anything to say about it..... just trying to refine my understanding a little bit so I can best approach the catalyst that I experience daily

Thanks in advance everybuddy

[Diana]

I'm going to start with an example: I am laying in bed, trying to sleep, and my neighbors start becoming very loud. I feel I can no longer fall asleep, and I start to feel anger inside me.

My understanding is this: my neighbor's noise is the trigger for the catalyst, which is anger.

When I feel anger inside me, I have a few options, I can ignore it (i.e suppress it,) I can let myself become angry and act out, or I can reflect on the anger I feel, and oppose it with contrary emotions, like calmness. The last option seems to be "the most effective" use of this catalyst

Regarding the above scenario, you have left out an option. You can do something proactive such as, put in earplugs or use headphones and listen to something calming. Also, and you may have done this, you can speak to your neighbor the next day and ask that things be quiet after a reasonable time (10 pm) or whatever works for you. The idea is to do something that will allow sleep and not churning conflict inside.

Then, the processing of the anger that you DID feel, can be done at a later time, as Ra suggests, in contemplation. Infinite found the following Ra quote that I couldn't find, on how to process anger:

The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this redray energy is perceived, not as folly in itself, but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used. Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.
(46.9)

[sillypumpkins]

ah yes, I did forget about those other options.

Thanks for reply and the quote

[Sacred Fool]

As I view it, your reflexive response to catalyst provides you with a pathway into your own being to see what's going on in there. So, anger. Where do you feel that in your body? Where does that lead you? I.e., what does that area of your body have to say?

Why are you pushed to anger? What's going on in there? I mean, wholly independent of the external catalyst. Are you being run by pre-programmed cavalcades of feelings? What does your identity morph into when you're driven by anger?

If you're looking to wring value out of catalyst, it looks something like that. If you just want to get to sleep, then go next store and ask them to be reasonable and quiet down or, as Diana suggested, use earplugs.

[flofrog]

Silly, o don’t know if this will help, but back quite a few years ago when I had major anger against one in particular, I did realize that a lot of it was directed at myself for having entered in a relationship with that person, and not entered it well either, so I had to definitely forgive myself too ... lol

Not sure I am clear enough in stating this.. but that was an important insight for me

[sillypumpkins]

Thanks for the responses peregrine and flo!

The "noisy neighbor" example is a bit more of a light-hearted scenario than what I've actually been experiencing in regards to catalyst.....

I mean, wholly independent of the external catalyst.

Okay, so, that sort of gets to part of what I am attempting to understand. Would "trigger" be more amply replaced by "external catalyst"? So far, I have been viewing catalyst solely as the "thing" you feel internally, though it seems that the catalyst exists externally and internally, informing one another.

Perhaps I am looking at it a bit narrowly! Or I am thinking about it too much

I remember reading Ra mention that catalyst is anything experienced by the senses. So.... everything is a catalyst? And we sort of just pick and choose what catalyst we want to experience?

Silly, o don’t know if this will help, but back quite a few years ago when I had major anger against one in particular, I did realize that a lot of it was directed at myself for having entered in a relationship with that person, and not entered it well either, so I had to definitely forgive myself too ... lol

Not sure I am clear enough in stating this.. but that was an important insight for me

Right you are flo It always comes back to YOU (as in, the individual) !! it seems that way at least lol

[AnthroHeart]

Thanks for the responses peregrine and flo!

The "noisy neighbor" example is a bit more of a light-hearted scenario than what I've actually been experiencing in regards to catalyst.....

I mean, wholly independent of the external catalyst.

Okay, so, that sort of gets to part of what I am attempting to understand. Would "trigger" be more amply replaced by "external catalyst"? So far, I have been viewing catalyst solely as the "thing" you feel internally, though it seems that the catalyst exists externally and internally, informing one another.

Perhaps I am looking at it a bit narrowly! Or I am thinking about it too much

I remember reading Ra mention that catalyst is anything experienced by the senses. So.... everything is a catalyst? And we sort of just pick and choose what catalyst we want to experience?

Silly, o don’t know if this will help, but back quite a few years ago when I had major anger against one in particular, I did realize that a lot of it was directed at myself for having entered in a relationship with that person, and not entered it well either, so I had to definitely forgive myself too ... lol

Not sure I am clear enough in stating this.. but that was an important insight for me

Right you are flo It always comes back to YOU (as in, the individual) !! it seems that way at least lol

93.11 Questioner: I would like, if possible, an example of the activity we call Catalyst of the Mind in a particular individual undergoing this process. Could Ra give an example of that?

Ra: I am Ra. All that assaults your senses is catalyst. We, in speaking to this support group through this instrument, offer catalyst. The configurations of each in the group of body offer catalyst through comfort/discomfort. In fact all that is unprocessed that has come before the notice of a mind/body/spirit complex is catalyst.

[sillypumpkins]

Thanks for pointing that out sun.

The word choice of "assault" is interesting........

[Agua]

removed

[sillypumpkins]

Thank you much agua. Your response has cleared up a lot of my confusion!!

So when you see "trigger warnings" online and that sort of thing, another way of wording it could be "catalyst warning"!! Lol.

[Sacred Fool]

Perhaps I am looking at it a bit narrowly! Or I am thinking about it too much?

Yeah, I'd say that sums it up.

So everything is catalyst, but most of it just takes care of itself.  However, there is that other portion which causes one to contract and impedes the natural flow of energy.  The contraction tends to amplify.  For instance, fear may lead to anger which leads to hatred which leads to regret which leads to shame...and on and on.

From a spiritual perspective, this amplification leads to one's sense as a separate self becoming further reified and one's sense as a spirit drifting further and further away from one's normal sense of self.

Ergo, if you find yourself contract--or if you find yourself sitting atop a gigantic pile of contracting emotions--this can be considered catalyst prompting you to uncover the contraction (or the heap thereof) and to unwind it so that your energy system may then operate more efficiently.

What's the point of this form of inconvenience?  The point is that the more deeply you do this work, the more beautifully you may be able to offer service to the One Creator......if you're into that sort of thing.
  
  

[flofrog]

Small question here. Does it mean that in this kind of work, you amplify your pain ? as a gift to Creator ?

[Sacred Fool]

Well, as one becomes progressively more conscious of the pain that one carries, it can feel that way. Consciousness is the gift. "Are you not all things?"

In my experience, as one progresses, skill increases and prolonged periods of pain are lessened. But the catalyst can become more intense and sometimes it take awhile to encompass it.

[flofrog]

I agree

[AnthroHeart]

Small question here.  Does it mean that in this kind of work, you amplify your pain ? as a gift to Creator ?

I don't know flo,

But this channeling from Q'uo is probably my favorite quote from them:

The concept of the Christ was this: that intelligent infinity, as experienced by the Logos and with the bias of the Logos, would enter a third-density experience, not erasing the one known as Jesus’ personality or being, but coming into the closest possible harmony with that being. There needed to be one who wished to sacrifice an incarnation to the ever-increasing pleasure and agony of the Creator, experiencing what this instrument would call the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, for it is the nature of the Christ and the nature of third density that the two, perceiving each other, should react-the third density with a lack of understanding and the Christ with wonder, joy and sacrifice. Such is the sorrow of your illusion and the joy of sensation and communion.

https://www.llresearch.org/newsletters/i...987_4.aspx