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    Cainite Away

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    #1
    02-14-2019, 04:53 PM
    We lost another cat friend today. I saw his dead body on a wall. his head was hanging down and he looked so peaceful. he was fine and healthy this morning.
    I hope he wasn't poisoned by the neighbors. they were already complaining about him.. since he used to sit by the elevator waiting.

    Anyway, I was late for something and couldn't bury him. he was probably thrown in a garbage can.

    That's the worst thing about it. he didn't deserve that.. he was very emotional and lovely and tried to communicate his affection a lot.

    Would that bother him? I wish I could bury him in the yard.. where he spent his entire life. (two years)

    Also I don't know why around his mouth was dirty and black when I saw him on that wall.
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    02-14-2019, 06:09 PM
    Two years old? Dirty and black around the mouth? Yeah, it sounds like they might have poisoned your cat. D: Would it bother him? Nah, he's dead. He's gone back to infinity. He knows your pain. I'm sure he'll reincarnate into another fine creature's body. Sad Rites of the body are for the living, not the dead. I'm sorry you lost your kitty that way, what kind of awful people poison a kitty for waiting by the elevator. Though I'd definitely keep my cats inside if I'm not around knowing that might have happened.

    I dunno what I'll do when my dude (13) dies. I used to plan to try do a DIY soft taxidermy and turn him into a pillow but (shrug) I dunno for sure.

    Sorry about your cat. Sad
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    02-14-2019, 07:53 PM
    Cainite, many thoughts towards you Heart
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    02-14-2019, 08:40 PM
    Sorry to hear that Cainite.
    I'm sure your cat friend sees the compassion within you towards him.
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    02-15-2019, 04:40 AM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2019, 04:43 AM by Cainite.)
    (02-14-2019, 06:09 PM)Tae Wrote: Two years old? Dirty and black around the mouth? Yeah, it sounds like they might have poisoned your cat. D: Would it bother him? Nah, he's dead. He's gone back to infinity. He knows your pain. I'm sure he'll reincarnate into another fine creature's body. Sad Rites of the body are for the living, not the dead. I'm sorry you lost your kitty that way, what kind of awful people poison a kitty for waiting by the elevator. Though I'd definitely keep my cats inside if I'm not around knowing that might have happened.

    I dunno what I'll do when my dude (13) dies. I used to plan to try do a DIY soft taxidermy and turn him into a pillow but (shrug) I dunno for sure.

    Sorry about your cat. Sad

    So the being that's dead, no longer cares about or is affected by how his body is being treated?
    Thank god.

    I myself would like to be burned and kept somewhere for my loved ones. and one day someone would cast the ashes into a landscape that's untouched by humanity.

    and about bringing him home,
    I already keep two cats inside. me and two other women help the cats in the neighborhood. they're many.. so we don't consider bringing them home for two reasons ;

    The food my household cats eat is very expensive because of sanctions against our country and any new cat that I would bring would want to eat what they eat and I can't even afford this. the three of us cook several chickens with some rice+carrot+potato for the cats outside everyday. and take them to vet when they need medicine or treatment/surgery.
    One of these women pays for most of this. I pay nothing and just help. they too can't bring more cats inside.

    The other reason is that I dont want to steal their freedom. I think life outside is more interesting if they don't starve and getting the love and food we provide is enough.


    There's another cat, we had to remove all his teeth except one or he would die.. he too is a very special cat.  I go seek him every night at least once. but he's not always there at his spot. I have to give him food that doesn't require chewing.  that's why i'm more concerned with him.
    That and the suffering he has gone through that has made him evolve fast.
    But he's adventrous and doesn't always show up where he knows I come looking for him. so I don't know if he would want to come home with me at all anyway.

    Now that the weather is getting better, we're less worried about these children.
    Creator bless you all.
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    #6
    02-15-2019, 08:31 AM
    (02-15-2019, 04:40 AM)Cainite Wrote:
    (02-14-2019, 06:09 PM)Tae Wrote: Two years old? Dirty and black around the mouth? Yeah, it sounds like they might have poisoned your cat. D: Would it bother him? Nah, he's dead. He's gone back to infinity. He knows your pain. I'm sure he'll reincarnate into another fine creature's body. Sad Rites of the body are for the living, not the dead. I'm sorry you lost your kitty that way, what kind of awful people poison a kitty for waiting by the elevator. Though I'd definitely keep my cats inside if I'm not around knowing that might have happened.

    I dunno what I'll do when my dude (13) dies. I used to plan to try do a DIY soft taxidermy and turn him into a pillow but (shrug) I dunno for sure.

    Sorry about your cat. Sad

    So the being that's dead, no longer cares about or is affected by how his body is being treated?
    Thank god.

    I myself would like to be burned and kept somewhere for my loved ones. and one day someone would cast the ashes into a landscape that's untouched by humanity.

    and about bringing him home,
    I already keep two cats inside. me and two other women help the cats in the neighborhood. they're many.. so we don't consider bringing them home for two reasons ;

    The food my household cats eat is very expensive because of sanctions against our country and any new cat that I would bring would want to eat what they eat and I can't even afford this. the three of us cook several chickens with some rice+carrot+potato for the cats outside everyday. and take them to vet when they need medicine or treatment/surgery.
    One of these women pays for most of this. I pay nothing and just help. they too can't bring more cats inside.

    The other reason is that I dont want to steal their freedom. I think life outside is more interesting if they don't starve and getting the love and food we provide is enough.


    There's another cat, we had to remove all his teeth except one or he would die.. he too is a very special cat.  I go seek him every night at least once. but he's not always there at his spot. I have to give him food that doesn't require chewing.  that's why i'm more concerned with him.
    That and the suffering he has gone through that has made him evolve fast.
    But he's adventrous and doesn't always show up where he knows I come looking for him. so I don't know if he would want to come home with me at all anyway.

    Now that the weather is getting better, we're less worried about these children.
    Creator bless you all.

    Isn't Infinity wild? I am sorry to hear about your cat friend, hopefully they did not poison the baby. I love meeting animals that have become aware of the spirit to a degree. These animals are truly special and quite unique. Could you tell me more about this toothless cat? What does he do that makes you think he is fast evolved?
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    #7
    02-15-2019, 09:19 AM
    Oh this hurts my heart very much Sad I have two cats and I love them unconditionally. Your friend didn’t deserve that.... I’m so sorry Cainite. He’s in a better place now. It’s just sad because our little animal friends are so pure and innocent. I hope it was not humans who did anything...
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    02-15-2019, 02:07 PM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2019, 02:08 PM by isis.)
    (02-15-2019, 04:40 AM)Cainite Wrote: So the being that's dead, no longer cares about or is affected by how his body is being treated?
    Thank god.

    I think that depends on the being. There was a paranormal witness episode, which I totally believed, about a lady that haunted family members bc she was mad her ashes were being kept in a closet. The family ended up scattering her ashes to the wind near a casino, bc they remembered she loved going to casinos, and they claimed they felt her presence leave them immediately afterwards and then she quit haunting them. I really doubt a cat would care, though.
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    02-16-2019, 05:23 AM (This post was last modified: 02-16-2019, 05:24 AM by Cainite.)
    (02-15-2019, 08:31 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:
    (02-15-2019, 04:40 AM)Cainite Wrote:
    (02-14-2019, 06:09 PM)Tae Wrote: Two years old? Dirty and black around the mouth? Yeah, it sounds like they might have poisoned your cat. D: Would it bother him? Nah, he's dead. He's gone back to infinity. He knows your pain. I'm sure he'll reincarnate into another fine creature's body. Sad Rites of the body are for the living, not the dead. I'm sorry you lost your kitty that way, what kind of awful people poison a kitty for waiting by the elevator. Though I'd definitely keep my cats inside if I'm not around knowing that might have happened.

    I dunno what I'll do when my dude (13) dies. I used to plan to try do a DIY soft taxidermy and turn him into a pillow but (shrug) I dunno for sure.

    Sorry about your cat. Sad

    So the being that's dead, no longer cares about or is affected by how his body is being treated?
    Thank god.

    I myself would like to be burned and kept somewhere for my loved ones. and one day someone would cast the ashes into a landscape that's untouched by humanity.

    and about bringing him home,
    I already keep two cats inside. me and two other women help the cats in the neighborhood. they're many.. so we don't consider bringing them home for two reasons ;

    The food my household cats eat is very expensive because of sanctions against our country and any new cat that I would bring would want to eat what they eat and I can't even afford this. the three of us cook several chickens with some rice+carrot+potato for the cats outside everyday. and take them to vet when they need medicine or treatment/surgery.
    One of these women pays for most of this. I pay nothing and just help. they too can't bring more cats inside.

    The other reason is that I dont want to steal their freedom. I think life outside is more interesting if they don't starve and getting the love and food we provide is enough.


    There's another cat, we had to remove all his teeth except one or he would die.. he too is a very special cat.  I go seek him every night at least once. but he's not always there at his spot. I have to give him food that doesn't require chewing.  that's why i'm more concerned with him.
    That and the suffering he has gone through that has made him evolve fast.
    But he's adventrous and doesn't always show up where he knows I come looking for him. so I don't know if he would want to come home with me at all anyway.

    Now that the weather is getting better, we're less worried about these children.
    Creator bless you all.

    Isn't Infinity wild? I am sorry to hear about your cat friend, hopefully they did not poison the baby. I love meeting animals that have become aware of the spirit to a degree. These animals are truly special and quite unique. Could you tell me more about this toothless cat? What does he do that makes you think he is fast evolved?
    These animals simply ''care more''. you may feel that they're understanding what you're telling them.
    He waits for his smaller (in size) friend to eat first. these evolved animals care a lot less about food.

    The other three that I lost were the same way. they communicate their feelings a lot.. like a dog. they develop this deep bond with a human who's willing to go far with them.  if you keep one as a pet, contrary to it's solitary nature, it would follow you everywhere and most of the time be by your side and could become emotionally quiet dependent.

    Almost everyone who knows such animals would say things like ''It's a human in a cat body'', or that ''he's literally trying to talk to us''
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    02-16-2019, 06:07 AM (This post was last modified: 02-16-2019, 06:08 AM by Cyan.)
    I have a feeling that he was digging around in the yard and ate something bad and died and is very glad to have known you, I have a feeling he is happy and pondering being called she for the next life, you know. I feel the neighbours were not nice to him but that did not bother him. His method of burial did not bother him but if it bothers you it also bothered him, is what I feel.

    I've also been pondering the concept of death and burial, I feel we should freeze all our loved once(ones)* so we can resurrect them when the technology is good enough, I feel burial is one of the last remaining "bad" spiritual traditions along with a few others I've talked about here. Freezing for moment when they can be revived is my hope.
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    02-16-2019, 08:26 AM (This post was last modified: 02-16-2019, 08:27 AM by Infinite Unity.)
    (02-16-2019, 05:23 AM)Cainite Wrote:
    (02-15-2019, 08:31 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:
    (02-15-2019, 04:40 AM)Cainite Wrote:
    (02-14-2019, 06:09 PM)Tae Wrote: Two years old? Dirty and black around the mouth? Yeah, it sounds like they might have poisoned your cat. D: Would it bother him? Nah, he's dead. He's gone back to infinity. He knows your pain. I'm sure he'll reincarnate into another fine creature's body. Sad Rites of the body are for the living, not the dead. I'm sorry you lost your kitty that way, what kind of awful people poison a kitty for waiting by the elevator. Though I'd definitely keep my cats inside if I'm not around knowing that might have happened.

    I dunno what I'll do when my dude (13) dies. I used to plan to try do a DIY soft taxidermy and turn him into a pillow but (shrug) I dunno for sure.

    Sorry about your cat. Sad

    So the being that's dead, no longer cares about or is affected by how his body is being treated?
    Thank god.

    I myself would like to be burned and kept somewhere for my loved ones. and one day someone would cast the ashes into a landscape that's untouched by humanity.

    and about bringing him home,
    I already keep two cats inside. me and two other women help the cats in the neighborhood. they're many.. so we don't consider bringing them home for two reasons ;

    The food my household cats eat is very expensive because of sanctions against our country and any new cat that I would bring would want to eat what they eat and I can't even afford this. the three of us cook several chickens with some rice+carrot+potato for the cats outside everyday. and take them to vet when they need medicine or treatment/surgery.
    One of these women pays for most of this. I pay nothing and just help. they too can't bring more cats inside.

    The other reason is that I dont want to steal their freedom. I think life outside is more interesting if they don't starve and getting the love and food we provide is enough.


    There's another cat, we had to remove all his teeth except one or he would die.. he too is a very special cat.  I go seek him every night at least once. but he's not always there at his spot. I have to give him food that doesn't require chewing.  that's why i'm more concerned with him.
    That and the suffering he has gone through that has made him evolve fast.
    But he's adventrous and doesn't always show up where he knows I come looking for him. so I don't know if he would want to come home with me at all anyway.

    Now that the weather is getting better, we're less worried about these children.
    Creator bless you all.

    Isn't Infinity wild? I am sorry to hear about your cat friend, hopefully they did not poison the baby. I love meeting animals that have become aware of the spirit to a degree. These animals are truly special and quite unique. Could you tell me more about this toothless cat? What does he do that makes you think he is fast evolved?
    These animals simply ''care more''. you may feel that they're understanding what you're telling them.
    He waits for his smaller (in size) friend to eat first. these evolved animals care a lot less about food.

    The other three that I lost were the same way. they communicate their feelings a lot.. like a dog. they develop this deep bond with a human who's willing to go far with them.  if you keep one as a pet, contrary to it's solitary nature, it would follow you everywhere and most of the time be by your side and could become emotionally quiet dependent.

    Almost everyone who knows such animals would say things like ''It's a human in a cat body'', or that ''he's literally trying to talk to us''

    Good descriptors, In my experience I have even seen a bee that was like this. So I dont believe that its ascertained only by our four legged friends. I believe the admixture of having a tough life, trauma, and severe conditions coupled with your groups caring, love, and offering of food freely has alot to do with it.
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    02-17-2019, 12:38 AM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2019, 12:38 AM by flofrog.)
    (02-16-2019, 08:26 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Good descriptors, In my experience I have even seen a bee that was like this.

    Smile We have a small old pool in our garden. When the weather becomes warm, bees come drink to it. Some will panic and start to drown, so we have a strainer and I often will pick them up. I lay the strainer on the grass and once recovered they fly away. One day, after saving one, I went back to my chair to read but I was watching her getting dried, and she flew right back at me and sat on my knee looking at me for a while, and it happened twice that day... it was awesome
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    02-17-2019, 09:22 AM
    (02-17-2019, 12:38 AM)flofrog Wrote:
    (02-16-2019, 08:26 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Good descriptors, In my experience I have even seen a bee that was like this.

    Smile   We have a small old pool in our garden. When the weather becomes warm, bees come drink to it. Some will panic and start to drown, so we have a strainer and I often will pick them up.  I lay the strainer on the grass and once recovered they fly away. One day, after saving one, I went back to my chair to read but I was watching her getting dried, and she flew right back at me and sat on my knee looking at me for a while, and it happened twice that day...  it was awesome

    I think that would be a good scene in a movie..

    Most ppl are always in a hurry or sth.. even if they care they wouldn't waste time with these things.

    There was a little something on the ground once, it had attracted a lot of ants..
    I waited 2 hours until they picked it all up and left.
    easy peasy Tongue
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    #14
    02-17-2019, 06:51 PM
    (02-14-2019, 04:53 PM)Cainite Wrote: We lost another cat friend today. I saw his dead body on a wall. his head was hanging down and he looked so peaceful. he was fine and healthy this morning.
    I hope he wasn't poisoned by the neighbors. they were already complaining about him.. since he used to sit by the elevator waiting.

    Anyway, I was late for something and couldn't bury him. he was probably thrown in a garbage can.

    That's the worst thing about it. he didn't deserve that.. he was very emotional and lovely and tried to communicate his affection a lot.

    Would that bother him? I wish I could bury him in the yard.. where he spent his entire life. (two years)

    Also I don't know why around his mouth was dirty and black when I saw him on that wall.

    I am so sorry Cainite, That is so so sad. I know you loved and cherished him.
    I am sure he is not bothered by where his body is though I am sure you having gotten to bury him would have comforted you.
    He had a great owner that invested love into him and allowed him to express his beingness. Maybe it was time for him to incarnate into full 3D. Hopefully he will chose a less catalistic planet like I tell my older dog to do. ((hugs)))
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    02-17-2019, 06:57 PM
    (02-17-2019, 12:38 AM)flofrog Wrote:
    (02-16-2019, 08:26 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Good descriptors, In my experience I have even seen a bee that was like this.

    Smile   We have a small old pool in our garden. When the weather becomes warm, bees come drink to it. Some will panic and start to drown, so we have a strainer and I often will pick them up.  I lay the strainer on the grass and once recovered they fly away. One day, after saving one, I went back to my chair to read but I was watching her getting dried, and she flew right back at me and sat on my knee looking at me for a while, and it happened twice that day...  it was awesome

    Insects are so underrated. I have had pretty neat experiences with spiders. I cannot always tell if it's "them" or the universe reaching out to you through them but either way hugely under rated. Glad to hear the bees have found their lifeguard.

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    02-17-2019, 07:31 PM
    (02-17-2019, 12:38 AM)flofrog Wrote:
    (02-16-2019, 08:26 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Good descriptors, In my experience I have even seen a bee that was like this.

    Smile   We have a small old pool in our garden. When the weather becomes warm, bees come drink to it. Some will panic and start to drown, so we have a strainer and I often will pick them up.  I lay the strainer on the grass and once recovered they fly away. One day, after saving one, I went back to my chair to read but I was watching her getting dried, and she flew right back at me and sat on my knee looking at me for a while, and it happened twice that day...  it was awesome

    Here is a good idea for a bee waterer: https://www.intelligentliving.co/make-be...llinators/

    [Image: bees-water-pollen.jpg]
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    02-17-2019, 09:08 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2019, 09:09 PM by Infinite Unity.)
    Thats a pretty nifty little idea gem. May use a rendition of that in the garden. Ima show my wife, and see what she thinks.

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