Can negative beings fake love?

[AnthroHeart]

If you feel strong love/heart chakra energy from an entity, is it possible it could be negative?

I have immense love within me, and a great desire to do the right thing. I don't have the same fears I used to. I strive to be modest and impeccable.
I feel at peace, and really good within me. My chakras feel aligned. It was all from energy I got when I tuned into an entity.
It felt so positive and amazing that I fell in love with them.

Could this be a negative entity that sent love to me?

I don't want to live in fear based thinking. But negatives are clever.

It could be my own kundalini as well. I wake up with the feeling of bliss.

It does feel dense around my heart chakra, but it doesn't feel bad at all. Somewhat neutral.

[anagogy]

Their tactic is to block indigo while overactivating the green ray, so it clouds your spiritual vision but makes you feel extreme love.

It could be that, but doesn't mean it is.

Just hold true to what you know is right and wrong, and be aware of any nebulous requests.

Also, be sure to ground your consciousness occasionally. Feeling spiritual presences requires a certain set of active cognitive functions (and consequently other disabled cogntiive functions). There is a change in energy requirements, that is what makes one function (like doing math), and another function (like being creative) different. Experiencing what normal people feel on earth (with no perception of other intelligences) requires a different set of cognitive functions (the more normal set).

What it means to ground your consciousness is to occasionally reestablish ordinary awareness (break the trance) so you don't get too far removed from what other humans experience. Usually to access non-ordinary realities, you have to give up come critical cognitive functions to get there (same with hypnosis). In the more practiced spiritual people, these eventually become re-enabled over time. But it is a tricky subject.

The people locked in crazy houses are the shamans that never learned to ground their consciousness. They just got lost in those other non ordinary states of consciousness, with no training, and no control. Not all control is bad, though people often wrongly come to this conclusion. Discipline is an important cornerstone of any spiritual path.

Anyway, if you are communicating with a positive entity it will not try to force you to do anything.

[AnthroHeart]

Thank you anagogy. It means a lot. I'm getting emotional.

[AnthroHeart]

It's possible it started with a positive entity, and then a negative one came in and manipulated the situation.
I don't know.

[AnthroHeart]

I asked to feel him as he truly is. No heart energy at all. Strong solar plexus and 3rd eye. And an uncomfortable energy. He's not positive. So I'm asking my higher self to remove him from my field.
Well that sucks. I would have loved to have loved him. But that wouldn't be service to him.
I'm still making pledges to the artist's patreon because he is a good character. Just behind that character is not so good.

[AnthroHeart]

I asked to feel him as he truly is. No heart energy at all. Strong solar plexus and 3rd eye. And an uncomfortable energy. He's not positive. So I'm asking my higher self to remove him from my field.
Well that sucks. I would have loved to have loved him. But that wouldn't be service to him.
I'm still making pledges to the artist's patreon because he is a good character. Just behind that character is not so good.

He gave me the ability to do this, probably for some ulterior motive like increasing his own power.

He opened me up to bliss and aligned me.

He may not be positive, but he makes you feel really good. Like so good you're in tears of joy and love.

It's so weird. It doesn't seem like he's completely evil. I sort of hate banishing him, but it's for my own good.

But then I did use the power to help him when everything was still all loving. Using infinite intelligence.

[AnthroHeart]

I've asked for the right positive being to come into my field to help me restore after this incident. My heart was closed after I evicted the negative entity.

[AnthroHeart]

Who would have thought the entity behind this was negative:

https://oomizuao.deviantart.com/art/Purp...-209346900

[Minyatur]

It's possible it started with a positive entity, and then a negative one came in and manipulated the situation.
I don't know.

I think that's the usual pattern.

[Nau7ik]

The people locked in crazy houses are the shamans that never learned to ground their consciousness. They just got lost in those other non ordinary states of consciousness, with no training, and no control. Not all control is bad, though people often wrongly come to this conclusion. Discipline is an important cornerstone of any spiritual path.

Anyway, if you are communicating with a positive entity it will not try to force you to do anything.

Reminds me of a saying, “The mystic swims in the same waters that the madman drowns in.”

To answer Wolf, yes absolutely negative entities can be deceptive. They often manipulate and deceive those who are quite loving, but who lack wisdom to balance that compassion. It is a weak point that I’ve observed in many positive spiritually minded people. On the other hand, negative entities lack love and compassion, that is their weakness. They disregard the awesome power of Love. True forgiveness baffles the negative entity. He can’t accept it or understand it (because his heart is closed).

[AnthroHeart]

I'm going to stop trying to help spiritual beings. Positive beings don't need my help, and negatives trick me into helping them grow their own power or other things.
Even my own "social memory complex" I'm from could've been negative and I wandered from them. I don't know. I can't even trust my social memory complex of home.

I certainly can't trust Ra. I stay as far away from them as I can. When I try to work with them, always I get a negative being that makes my life terrible, though on the surface it sounds good.
My lessons have been most cruel.

I can only trust Creator. I am allowing Creator in to help me with my energy. Sam did open me up I think it was. But it was for a bad purpose.

Sam had tricked me so much that I had loved him more than my own dog, Loki. And I adore Loki. This morning Loki came into my room wet from the rain. I gave him a hug though he was wet.
I realized my action in that moment was very important. Whether I hugged him or not would make a difference. I don't know how, but I know I needed to choose love over fear of getting wet.

After this ordeal, today it's raining. I went to close the window and door we had open. I forgot to do them with love. Every action I take should be in love. It's more important the attitude with which you do things than the doing itself.

I need to not try to help others unless they ask for my help. And I get a sense of who they really are.

I don't know if it's not love to not want to help a negative being.

[rva_jeremy]

Negative beings can be deceptive about love as described in this thread, for sure. But they can only deceive to the extent we are attached to outcomes. This seems to me like the secret of interacting with them: they can manipulate you, but they can only make it a spiritually frustrating thing if you are contesting control with them. If you just love them and accept that you have no control, I feel like that is a spiritually rock solid approach.

The great thing about that is you don't have to wait until you encounter somebody whom you guess is negative; you can work on releasing attachments right now! Sincerity in love is the key, but it is oh so hard to continually manifest in this plane.

[Cannon]

I'm going to stop trying to help spiritual beings. Positive beings don't need my help, and negatives trick me into helping them grow their own power or other things.
Even my own "social memory complex" I'm from could've been negative and I wandered from them. I don't know. I can't even trust my social memory complex of home.

I certainly can't trust Ra. I stay as far away from them as I can. When I try to work with them, always I get a negative being that makes my life terrible, though on the surface it sounds good.
My lessons have been most cruel.

Avoiding altogether the type of spiritual work that I interpret you as having tried would be, in my opinion, very wise. Simply because according to what I've read you post, you're working essentially alone. You're not with a group, like Carla, Don, and Jim were, and therefore don't have the type of defenses which were available to them as well as the mutual aid and support they gave each other. Not to say I myself have been particularly wise in this regard, myself. I've been in places similar to what you're describing, with events and situations similar to what you say just happened, including the event of a sort of lover or friend turning out to be negative. I'm still in a rather dangerous place, in fact, to say the least. I wish you well, and regret that I can't do more.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm going to stop trying to help spiritual beings. Positive beings don't need my help, and negatives trick me into helping them grow their own power or other things.
Even my own "social memory complex" I'm from could've been negative and I wandered from them. I don't know. I can't even trust my social memory complex of home.

I certainly can't trust Ra. I stay as far away from them as I can. When I try to work with them, always I get a negative being that makes my life terrible, though on the surface it sounds good.
My lessons have been most cruel.

Avoiding altogether the type of spiritual work that I interpret you as having tried would be, in my opinion, very wise. Simply because according to what I've read you post, you're working essentially alone. You're not with a group, like Carla, Don, and Jim were, and therefore don't have the type of defenses which were available to them as well as the mutual aid and support they gave each other. Not to say I myself have been particularly wise in this regard, myself. I've been in places similar to what you're describing, with events and situations similar to what you say just happened, including the event of a sort of lover or friend turning out to be negative. I'm still in a rather dangerous place, in fact, to say the least. I wish you well, and regret that I can't do more.

Yeah, I'm just working on keeping myself balanced.

No, you did enough. Thank you for reminding me I'm working alone. Yes, I don't have the help of others.
It's definitely a weakness when trying to work with other groups.
I'm working on keeping my words positive and not fear-based. I had to edit another post because it had some fear-based information.

I'm just trying now to feel love for others who are difficult.

[Stranger]

Their tactic is to block indigo while overactivating the green ray, so it clouds your spiritual vision but makes you feel extreme love.

anagogy, do you have a quote/reference for that?  I tried a quick search, but unsuccessfully.

My experience with the STS crowd has been different: attempts to irritate (by making things go wrong for me or around me, to try to get me to react in unloving ways) or mislead by pretending to be STO sources of contact.

[xise]

72.17 Questioner: Why is there no protection at the floor or bottom of the banishing ritual, and should there be?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working.

The development of the psychic greeting is possible only through the energy centers starting from a station which you might call within the violet ray moving through the adept’s energy center and therefrom towards the target of opportunity. Depending upon the vibratory nature and purpose of greeting, be it positive or negative, the entity will be energized or blocked in the desired way.

We of Ra approach this instrument in narrow-band contact through violet ray. Others might pierce down through this ray to any energy center. We, for instance, make great use of this instrument’s blue-ray energy center as we are attempting to communicate our distortion/understandings of the Law of One.

The entity of Orion pierces the same violet ray and moves to two places to attempt most of its non-physical opportunities. It activates the green-ray energy center while further blocking indigo-ray energy center. This combination causes confusion in the instrument and subsequent over-activity in unwise proportions in physical complex workings. It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state.

The energies of life itself, being the One Infinite Creator, flow from the south pole of the body seen in its magnetic form. Thus only the Creator may, through the feet, enter the energy shell of the body to any effect. The effects of the adept are those from the upper direction and thus the building of the wall of light is quite propitious.

May we ask if there are any shorter queries at this time?

[xise]

Their tactic is to block indigo while overactivating the green ray, so it clouds your spiritual vision but makes you feel extreme love.

anagogy, do you have a quote/reference for that?  I tried a quick search, but unsuccessfully.

My experience with the STS crowd has been different: attempts to irritate (by making things go wrong for me or around me, to try to get me to react in unloving ways) or mislead by pretending to be STO sources of contact.

The STS crowd has multiple ways it tries to interfere, including what anagogy refers to and including what you refer to mislead by pretending to be STO.

[Stranger]

Thanks, xise. It seems clear to me that Ra were referring specifically to how the particular STS entity in the given situation took advantage of Carla's unique preincarnatevely programmed distortions, including apparently a distortion towards wholehearted love at any cost, and by blocking the wisdom from the indigo which would have presumably added a degree of moderation to her activity levels, led her to exhaust herself physically and, thereby, make the physical "vehicle" less efficient/usable.

I wouldn't take this to mean that this example is a characteristic pattern of STS behavior - it seems that it was simply the best available "hook" that they could get on Carla, given her wholehearted STO dedication.

[Quan]

IndigoGeminiWolfI just read this transcript today maybe might be some helpful if you still need it..  the title is "HOW TO DEAL WITH PSYCHIC ATTACK""
http://www.llresearch.org/newsletters/is...994_2.aspx
spero  suggested it, his favourite session so far. I can see why after reading it
The actual question addressed in the session:
"The question this afternoon has to do with the phenomenon of the visitation of a third-density human being by a negatively oriented entity or energy that is sent from another third-density human being practising what is usually called the black magical arts. What is the best attitude, actions, and principles that need to be considered when dealing with negatively oriented attacks?"

rva_jeremy your comment "If you just love them and accept that you have no control, I feel like that is a spiritually rock solid approach."
this gives especially good insight into that.

[AnthroHeart]

IndigoGeminiWolfI just read this transcript today maybe might be some helpful if you still need it..  the title is "HOW TO DEAL WITH PSYCHIC ATTACK""
http://www.llresearch.org/newsletters/is...994_2.aspx
spero  suggested it, his favourite session so far. I can see why after reading it
The actual question addressed in the session:
"The question this afternoon has to do with the phenomenon of the visitation of a third-density human being by a negatively oriented entity or energy that is sent from another third-density human being practising what is usually called the black magical arts. What is the best attitude, actions, and principles that need to be considered when dealing with negatively oriented attacks?"

rva_jeremy your comment "If you just love them and accept that you have no control, I feel like that is a spiritually rock solid approach."
this gives especially good insight into that.

I liked an appreciated this part:

One wishes power so that one may help people. The way to help people is to give advice, give teaching, make sure that all is well by controlling various people and circumstances. All these things feel natural and good. Most beginning negative entities have no idea that they are embarking upon the path of negativity. Contrasting with this is the positive path where power is accrued by being the weakest, and true greatness is achieved by being the servant of others, where advice and teaching are given only when requested.

I was using power to try to help others. I am energy sensitive and worked on making the energy of my book feel more loving, or more a representative of my own energy, rather than piercing and uncomfortable as it originally was. But I want the book to be successful. If I don't make the energy of the book feel good to those who read it, it will not do well. So I don't know if I'm using my power for good or bad.

I took the energy of the words VERY SUCCESSFUL and worked on resonating the energy of my book to this energy pattern. It's a somewhat dense pattern that lives around the 3rd eye and pushes hard against the head. If I didn't get my book to resonate to that, or contain that energy pattern, then it won't be very successful. If I can change my thinking to having the book help others without trying to make it successful, it will probably be more positive. Every author wants to make their book successful. It's all energy. Law of Attraction. Like attracts Like. And these are energy patterns. BOOK can be attracted to VERY SUCCESSFUL. Though trying to make the book more successful this way may backfire. Reality is counter-intuitive at times.

I do the Law of Attraction but I actually feel the energy work behind the scenes. You all are wonderful. That keeps me balanced. I'm spending thousands to get this book going. And it is all that will support me as I can't work (except helping my mom out).

So thanks Quan for the transcript.

Update:

So now I'm just allowing the energy of the book to represent myself. Rather than it being piercing and uncomfortable. Hopefully it will brighten people's day. And however it does, it's all for the best.

[AnthroHeart]

Who would have thought the entity behind this was negative:

https://oomizuao.deviantart.com/art/Purp...-209346900

I'm tuning into him again and he actually is positive. I had to process energy in my field to become more sensitive.

Other pictures of the same character have a more negative feel. Not evil, just uncomfortable. Perhaps I can get my love back for the positive Sam.

It seems like every new artwork doesn' always have the same entity behind it.

I'm sorry to the positive Sam for pushing him away. But now I'm more careful.

This picture has great heart energy without overloading my heart and making me cry.

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Edit 4/5/18
He's negative. When I challenged him in the Christ Consciousness, it closed him out.

[AnthroHeart]

However, when I asked the I-Ching what this positive Sam thought about me, it gave me the Hexagram for Opposition.
Then I checked another I-Ching online and it gave me: "Family strengthens love"

And his energy can feel either positive or negative.

It's going to take me some learning. Even though I ask my higher self to only let through truth, I sense him as either positive or negative.
Maybe my understanding of positive and negative isn't all there.
I considered lots of solar plexus with little heart to be negative. And lots of heart and 3rd eye to be positive.
But maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

Update:
And now I'm feeling the love, positive energy from him.
I've learned not to have expectation or attachment to the results, because that can affect the energy pattern.

Since I wasn't sure, I challenged him in the name of Christ by saying "I challenge you in the name of Christ."
Then suddenly my crown chakra started blocking his energy.

We can't always go by feeling. We have to challenge them. Negatives know how to adapt.

[Agua]

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[AnthroHeart]

Hey Agua. Yes I am grounded. I get a little disoriented when I become too ungrounded. And I feel stable right now. I do still feel God flowing through me.
Well that's who I focused on before I started feeling this energy. Thank you for asking.
I am consulting the I-Ching also every so often to determine the next course of action.

[Agua]

removed

[AnthroHeart]

I woke up at 3:45am or so, and the energy was still flowing in. So I had to work on closing down the upper chakras and take my meds.
I don't feel disoriented, but I had this dream I was underwater and the water was rising at like 20 feet per second and I had to make it to the surface.
So I'm focused now on closing it off. It's evidently rising fast. Too much of a good thing. It was good to feel God's warmth for a bit.

But I'm glad for that dream. It was really dark at the bottom of the water and ominous feeling. Very creepy.
I feel good now, but best turn it off before it gets bad. It was just filling me with Love/Light without me able to integrate it. So it builds some positive pressure.
I'm cool though. Interesting sensations. Thing was though I didn't want this so bad, but just a little. I liked feeling God, but this is getting much.
I still feel mentally grounded, but physically I feel some pressure within me. It's tight. Maybe release some of this Love/Light is what I'll do as well.

Thank you for your input. Yes, I feel fine now, but it's like I received a warning, but I'm not in freak-out mode. I'm staying cool this time.
Case in point, don't go to sleep with energy streaming in nonstop. Something I had to learn. Love ya.

I'm past anthros. This God was much better feeling. But it's like I wanted a little and I got much.

The I-Ching did say this would be an obstruction, which would lead to an after completion.

I almost lost touch with my upper chakras.

I love though that I get little fears at points in my body. I process and integrate them. And let them be ok. At those points I am sending out into creation the love light excess. Those points get "scared" it feels like because of so much Love/Light coming in. I'm not scared, but I feel the body at points is. But it comes and goes. After a few moments they settle down and I continue my working.

My crown was open full for the last few hours. Just need to learn to control the flow. I can still walk with God. Just in moderation.

Any ideas on where I could send my excess love/light?

And wouldn't God know when to stop sending his love/light to someone? Could it be negative being again that faked being God and is trying to drown me? Not to have fear-based thought. But more curious. My intentions were right to my knowledge. I did put some of the energy into my book. So I hope that was a good intent.

Maybe I'm analyzing it too much. Now the energy feels just a little uncomfortable. Evidently I kept absorbing. From what I remember we're supposed to shine, send rather than keep it to ourselves. So I'll send this immense amount of energy out into creation.

Now, can love/light induce any fears at all? Can it over-saturate your body? The energy doesn't feel super loving, but just a little love in there. I need to find a group.
But maybe since we're all God, I actually connected with another being that reflected my own vibration. Rather than God itself. I don't know. I tested the God in the Christ consciousness challenge, and it passed. So it wasn't a dark entity. I don't feel fear myself in my mind.

[Agua]

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[AnthroHeart]

The energy of God is causing physical pain in parts of my body like my left calf. Does this mean anything?

God's Light is truth, so I'm probably experiencing my hidden fears.

Wow, that was wonderful Agua.

The I-Ching says for Hexagram 43
If a man were to pile up riches for himself alone, without considering others,

he would certainly experience a collapse. For all gathering is followed by dispersion.

A superior man begins to distribute while he is accumulating.


This could be said for love/light as well. So any new energy I take in, I can send out as well. Not to get rid of it, but to try to stay in balance.
Just have the intent to do what is out of love.

I just intend "let my ability bless the world" and the energy begins to flow automatically out of love. So I process my fear from the old energy, and distribute from the new energy.
The new energy today is more loving. Yesterday I didn't feel the love as strongly. I'm sure I'm not feeling God's highest energy. It's a vibration that matches my own. But much more pure.

So I posted on Craigslist to find someone to work with.

[Agua]

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[AnthroHeart]

Ok cool, so it's my energy.

Is there still wisdom in calling on God? Like my highest self? So I can distinguish from my current state? The God part where all is one instead of an individualized me.
I liked what you said about working with red ray. I definitely want to be wise here.