STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity.

[elspru]

Hi all,

I've been STS for a while, and identify with the Orion Crusaders,
based on my past lives and cognitive experience.

I'm wondering, where are all the Orion Crusaders gathering?
There seem to be endless STO forums and groups.
But as a crusader, I mean they're a tad dull.
Anyways, since this is a general forum,
if you are STS them either post or PM me,
maybe we can get something going.
If you are STO, maybe you have some questions
about what it's like to be STS.

Anyways, I remember lots of past-lives,
gray alien, pirate, monk, varingjar, centurian, etc.
The Law of One material really resonates with me,
it's a real precious gem.  Some people call me Loki.
Don't know what that 5th density STS guy had against Law of One.
It's a blueprint for STS just as much as it is for STO.

Also what do people have against STS?
It seems a much better healthier path of least resistance.

Before your bring out your pitchforks,
consider this an opportunity to polarize.
Really plumb the depths, and get off the fence.
Cause obviously you can't be useful if you aren't here,
and if you don't polarize you'll be migrated elsewhere lol.

For a bit of context, my mission is robot civilization seeds.
There are at least two paths,
If the planet goes STS, then the elite will enhance themselves and migrate to robot bodies,
homo-sapiens are unsuitable to rule because their brains can only handle 150-200 relations,
thus through trying to please only the few people that they can know, inevitably leads to corruption.

If the planet goes STO, then robot civilization seeds will help to bring life to dead planets and eco-regions.

I like Ra, he feels like an old  friend. At 6th density all these polarities merge anyhow.
Remember, the more polarized you are, the easier it is to switch between STO and STS. (read it in the Law of One somewhere, but can't find it now).

[JJCarsonian]

Very interesting - i'm guessing its difficult for people to take you seriously, because i'm sure the STS loves a good troll.

How is it that you remember many of your past lives? Tell me more about that.

STS is actually not the least resistance - the STS path is as difficult as the STO path in 3rd density, but much more difficult 4+.

I have nothing against STS, except when they start trying to act like a dictator and spread hatred, like the current Prez.

[Cainite]

If you don't hate us. then how are you sts?

Do you think Kindness is corny?
Do you enjoy when you see others suffer?
Would you betray a loved one to gain status or material things?

[elspru]

Very interesting - i'm guessing its difficult for people to take you seriously, because i'm sure the STS loves a good troll.  

How is it that you remember many of your past lives?  Tell me more about that.

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I started doing some magic spells to remember them from around the age of 15,  eventually I gained good access to them after my `kundalini' awakening experience.

It is the 9th step on the 12th step path to Buddhist enlightenment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-sectar...tfold_Path
I started seeking enlightenment when I was 12.
My first life as a Buddhist was about a thousand years ago in Guge, I studied under a ngagkpa, did about 20 years of meditating in the mountains -- before I was conscripted and died in battle with the muslims.

Tantra, particularly of the divine-meditation type is a good STS teaching, it is what originally attracted me to Buddhism. I was a varingjar and a trader laughed at my paganism, and said the men in the mountains had learned to become Gods, so I went to learn about them.

You can also do past-life regressions with theta wave meditation,  or go to a hypnotist.

Nowadays I mostly use theta-wave meditation, with an induction track if I want to remember a past life, takes like 45 minutes or so to establish a good link or have a decent memory.

STS is actually not the least resistance - the STS path is as difficult as the STO path in 3rd density, but much more difficult 4+.

Well I'd say it's the least resistance in terms that the STS spirits don't bug you, and the STO only send love and light so w/e.

Though do you have a citation for it being more difficult in 4+?

I have nothing against STS, except when they start trying to act like a dictator and spread hatred, like the current Prez.

Ah, well I wouldn't say he's full on STS.  He may even be STO that simply fell prey to 'the oldest trick in the book' narcissism:

https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=67#7
"The normal gambit of such fourth-density attack is the tempting of the entity or group of entities away from total polarization towards service to others and toward the aggrandizement of self or of social organizations with which the self identifies. "

Though who knows *shrugs*.  Maybe he is STS.  Certainly not the brightest tool in the shed.  When I remote view him it seems perhaps he is single-mindedly focused on self-aggrandizement, so at least he's dedicated to something! lol
He is very dangerous however, he is itching for the nuclear option -- so he can be the "last great president" or something in his mind.  I only see one small impish spiritual creature goading him on.  I think he should have a security detail that would jump him if he goes for the button lol.  

Well I know it wont help my plans anyways, so I'm rather leery of this obsession of his, as are some other crusaders.

[JJCarsonian]

I started doing some magic spells to remember them from around the age of 15,  eventually I gained good access to them after my `kundalini' awakening experience.
It is the 9th step on the 12th step path to Buddhist enlightenment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-sectar...tfold_Path
You can also do past-life regressions with theta wave meditation,  or go to a hypnotist.
Nowadays I mostly use theta-wave meditation, with an induction track if I want to remember a past life, takes like 45 minutes or so to establish a good link or have a decent memory.

Do you have any idea if you are 4th,5th, 6th density, or are you still 3rd?  If you are 4th+, what would be your reasoning for incarnating?  Ra says this would be rare.

Well I'd say it's the least resistance in terms that the STS spirits don't bug you, and the STO only send love and light so w/e.
Though do you have a citation for it being more difficult in 4+?

I am not able to find the exact quote, but he mentions the STS path is much more difficult due to the constant infighting among the groups in attempt to gain in position.  He mentioned the path was longer. On Earth, there are way more STO than there are STS, and there are way more neutral parties than polarized, so your perception is in relation to your interactions with mostly non-STS people.  So say if you were in a community where everyone only cared about themselves, then there would be constant stress, looking over your back, one-up'ing each other, and not trusting anyone.  That would personally drive me nuts.  I enjoy not worrying about those things and having a peace of mind.  STO still means you are partially STS, too, so I still enjoy life.

Though who knows *shrugs*.  Maybe he is STS.  Certainly not the brightest tool in the shed.  When I remote view him it seems perhaps he is single-mindedly focused on self-aggrandizement, so at least he's dedicated to something! lol
He is very dangerous however, he is itching for the nuclear option -- so he can be the "last great president" or something in his mind.  I only see one small impish spiritual creature goading him on.  I think he should have a security detail that would jump him if he goes for the button lol.  

Huh, you can remote him? Thats pretty cool.  What do you see when you Remote View me?  What's my ethnicity, my demeanor?  This is something i have been wanting to learn.  As for the Prez, i normally could care less about politics but i'm feel really uneasy about him.

[JJCarsonian]

If you don't hate us. then how are you sts?

Do you think Kindness is corny?
Do you enjoy when you see others suffer?
Would you betray a loved one to gain status or material things?

I think you have a misconception about STS. Hate is not a pre-req, although we see some correlation. I think "enjoying another person's suffering" is more of a mental or personality illness, and not part of STS or STO, which a person would need healing for after death.

[Cainite]

If you don't hate us. then how are you sts?

Do you think Kindness is corny?
Do you enjoy when you see others suffer?
Would you betray a loved one to gain status or material things?

I think you have a misconception about STS.  Hate is not a pre-req, although we see some correlation.  I think "enjoying another person's suffering" is more of a mental or personality illness, and not part of STS or STO, which a person would need healing for after death.

Yes, I'm confused about polarity. that's why I asked the questions..

[Foha]

Hello elspru!

This is very refreshing, so thank you.

I like to consider myself STO but it's hard to support that theory when I live such a comfortable life.

I plan to hopefully really start polarizing after I pay off my debts.

I graduate soon and should get a real job.

Cheers

[Foha]

[Zach]

When you say Robot- what do you mean specifically? Can you describe in detail what a "robot" is to you and more specifically the type you are referring to.

[Sacred Fool]

Hi all,

I've been STS for a while, and identify with the Orion Crusaders,
based on my past lives and cognitive experience.

I'm wondering, where are all the Orion Crusaders gathering?

Hi there.

1. What makes you a crusader? Do you have an organization and a rank?
2. Why crusade, what does it do for you?
3. What are your goals?
4. What are your robots about?
5. Do you have any real power? If so, please describe.
6. What are the distorting effects on your energy system of maintaining a closed/repressed heart?
7. What role does Love play for you, what role Wisdom?

Thanks.

[Coordinate_Apotheosis]

Do you like people?  And animals?  What's your favorite color? Letter?  Number?  Food?  Beverage?

How'd you find us and why do you interact with us?

Do you like to smoke at all or drink?

Ignoring most of the logical fallacies of an Orion Crusader coming to say hey to some pals of their old 6D friend in 3D incarnation, and further illuminating your agenda for us to see, I'd say hey, and welcome, and don't mind me if I say mean things to you cause I'm a jerk, and I thank you for your service too.  It's always fun conversing with darkness, y'all have such interesting views~

[loostudent]

I think "enjoying another person's suffering" is more of a mental or personality illness, and not part of STS or STO, which a person would need healing for after death.

"Some find the night delicious, their picnic being pain, difficulty, sufferings of others, and the examination of the perversities of nature." (Ra)

[elspru]

If you don't hate us. then how are you sts?

Hate would be a waste of my energy.
I have a mission to accomplish!

Do you think Kindness is corny?

Only if it interferes with the mission.

Do you enjoy when you see others suffer?

Nah, I don't like watching surgery.


I don't see any benefit suffering that doesn't help the mission.

Though on a somewhat related note, I do feel joy for some suffering,
as it is such a profound experience, and one of the strongest one can feel in
life. I mean, if you never pain, then are you even really alive? And isn't then
your appreciation of pleasure dull?


And when I was a varingjar and centurion, blood in the heat of battle, it's one
of the sweetest drinks of nectar that can get out of these bodies.  I know some
people play shooter video games, but that really pales in comparison to the real
thing so I don't bother.

Would you betray a loved one to gain status or material things?

Nah, people are more valuable than things.
Inanimate things wont work on the mission for me.

Do you have any idea if you are 4th,5th, 6th density, or are you still 3rd?  

As far as I've been able to deduce I'm a high level wanderer, seemingly 6th,
since the limit of this incarnative space is 4th that's where I'm at in body.

If
you are 4th+, what would be your reasoning for incarnating?  Ra says this would
be rare.

As I said I have a mission, robot civilization seeds.

I've been pushing this agenda for millions of years, haven't yet succeeded to my
satisfaction. So if it doesn't work out here, I'll be onto the next one.  But
things are going pretty well here, so maybe it'll work out :-).

I am not able to find the exact quote, but he mentions the STS path is much more
difficult due to the constant infighting among the groups in attempt to gain in
position.

Ah, I see what you mean. I would rather say that it's managing STS people that
is difficult, like herding cats. Can only get them to corale if you manage to
convince everyone that it is in their best interest to follow your lead.
Can't use physical force with spiritual beings, so have to use persuasion.

Loki the great persuader, lol.

He mentioned the path was longer.  On Earth, there are way more STO
than there are STS, and there are way more neutral parties than polarized, so
your perception is in relation to your interactions with mostly non-STS people.

You're likely right there.  Though I have come across numerous lets all get
together and pat each other on the back groups (STO).

So say if you were in a community where everyone only cared about themselves,
then there would be constant stress, looking over your back, one-up'ing each
other, and not trusting anyone.  That would personally drive me nuts.

Hmmm that reminds me of the reptilian worlds, `when they gonna try to eat ya?`
lol. I dono it can be fun. Generally it's not so bad when you have a posse,
getting some inexperienced STS's to join one is usually a trivial task in such
a setting.

I enjoy not worrying about those things and having a peace of mind.  
STO still means you are partially STS, too, so I still enjoy life.

So are you saying you don't enjoy the STO portion?

Huh, you can remote him? Thats pretty cool.  What do you see when you Remote
View me?

hmmm, you're sleeping.

 What's my ethnicity, my demeanor?

It's dark but I think tan coloration.

 This is something i have been
wanting to learn.  As for the Prez, i normally could care less about politics
but i'm feel really uneasy about him.

Yeah, well remote viewing is rather unreliable in these hosts. Was much easier
with Gray host bodies.

Hello elspru!

This is very refreshing, so thank you.

I like to consider myself STO but it's hard to support that theory when I live
such a comfortable life.

I plan to hopefully really start polarizing after I pay off my debts.

I graduate soon and should get a real job.

Cheers

So you're the put it off till you die kinda thing?
That's no way to live!

Try doing some meditation or read the power of now or something,
seriously, it doesn't matter what life stage your at. It's not like having kids.
It's something that infuses your every moment of existence.

If your STO, then your job has to be compatible. It MUST be beneficial, save the
world, help the poor, take care of the ill, etc.  If that stuff motivates you go
for it.   If you are too worried about your bills to care about other people.
Well then maybe you are STS, and you wanna climb some hierarchies or find some
other STS ways of bringing in the mula. Have fun with it, whatever you're doing,
otherwise what's the point?

When you say Robot- what do you mean specifically? Can you describe in detail
what a "robot" is to you and more specifically the type you are referring to.

I'm refering to solid-based host bodies,  made of conductors, semiconductors,
and insulators. water-sacks (homo-sapiens, fish etc) are no good for a large
number of eco-regions, like even the deserts of earth.

I know there are some silly people that believe in nano-bot water-sack robots,
but that's just genetic engineering, we did that already with the Grays, it's
unsatisfactory. I want electricity, wires, cameras, radio, a variety of
cognitive substrates.  I love life with a passion, and want to experience it
with more depth and diversity than possible with water-sacks, via electronic
host bodies.

Hi there.

1.   What makes you a crusader?  

I guess it's a combination of personal affiliation and long history.

Do you have an organization and a rank?

Well I was in the Orion Priesthood at some point,  though I was a Gray most
recently. Grays don't have names only designations, so I was on an abduction
team, and my reference was "second to the left".

2.   Why crusade, what does it do for you?

Why affiliate with the crusaders?
If I can convince them to help me with my mission,
then my mission has higher chance of success.

3.   What are your goals?

Robot civilization seed.

4.   What are your robots about?

Host bodies for a brave new world.

5.   Do you have any real power?  If so, please describe.

Real power?

Well I was under the impression that knowledge is power,
so I got together my past-lives to vastly increase my knowledge.
Maybe it earns me some power also, don't know, but it takes a while to convert.

6.   What are the distorting effects on your energy system of maintaining a
closed/repressed heart?

Uh, that would be stupid. I have an open heart, and even do compassion and
loving-kindness meditation for my own benefit. For instance I send out
compassion and loving-kindness to my self, family, and community, as it helps
with relations amongst all of those, making my mission easier.

Having a closed heart is a sure path to failure, the kundalini would be halted
at the heart chakra! Pft, stupid.

7.   What role does Love play for you, what role Wisdom?

Love is a rather generic term, other than feeling good, it is good for keeping
groups together -- and can't accomplish the mission without getting a lot of
people working together.  Wisdom, is good for planning the path of the mission,
and helping people be better people, so they can have a chance of helping with
it.
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Do you like people?  
And animals?  

Yeah, that can be useful/entertaining.

What's your favorite color?
Letter?  Number?
Food?  Beverage?

I don't see how that's relevant.

How'd you find us and why do you interact with us?

I found this group when looking for how Don of the Law of One material died.

Do you like to smoke at all or drink?

No.  I used to smoke marijuana, but it interferes with the mission if done too
regularly. I was misinformed to be honest, studies said it was good for
neurogenesis, but the number of side-effects are just too much.  A better one is
lion's mane, so side-effects  TMK just good cognition.

Ignoring most of the logical fallacies of an Orion Crusader coming to say hey to
some pals of their old 6D friend in 3D incarnation, and further illuminating
your agenda for us to see, I'd say hey, and welcome, and don't mind me if I say
mean things to you cause I'm a jerk, and I thank you for your service too.  It's
always fun conversing with darkness, y'all have such interesting views~

lol, okay thanks.

"Some find the night delicious, their picnic being pain, difficulty,
sufferings of others, and the examination of the perversities of nature."
(Ra)

I guess some do.

For me, the mission is above all.
I don't care too much if I accomplish it with STS or STO,
though I'm fairly certain it will be easier with STS so that is why I'm
spearheading it as such.

[elspru]

BTW, I received word from the admin that this is an STO forum, and they don't want any open promotion for STS, but they are okay to talk about STS in general.

Anyways, so if you think you are STS, and want any tips or anything you'll have to PM me, since they don't want it on the forums.

[Minyatur]

Also what do people have against STS?
It seems a much better healthier path of least resistance.

I guess they misunderstand the facet of themselves reflected by it.

Good insight regarding the path of least resistance, the STS polarity is a natural extension of the STO polarity which comes to be through very specific circumstances. I'm not sure it can called a healthy path, but when a wounded spirit is stuck in deep confusion and paradoxes it is effectively the path of least resistance to cut the self from the pain by forsaking its spirit's more fundamenral nature and essence until it finds to be ready to face its deepest self again and release its potential.

The path resolves in healing when the deep issues of self with self are faced with acceptance, then the need to project their energy upon the mirror of the self that are other-selves drops as the self no longer is negatively polarized in perception of its own reflection.

[JJCarsonian]

Elspru

I am impressed that you have obviously done your research and have alot of knowledge.

If you are 6th density, why wouldn't you have others do your work? I would think that the Gray Aliens are at the bottom of the totem pole and are like the worker bees, why would you want to incarnate in Gray bodies?

One more target regarding Remote Viewing - i always enjoy talking to people who know how to do it. I have a target: L917Z . Can you tell me what you see?

Why do you suppose Remote Viewing is unreliable in human bodies?

Thanks! John

[Sacred Fool]

You seem to have a high degree of mental organization, but very little polarity beyond that enabling you to do work. Do you have a plan to gain polarity? Or is your plan mainly to find beings of like orientation and hope to stumble across the means to pursue your goal.

Also, what makes that particular goal of paramount importance to you?

[Cainite]

Having a closed heart is a sure path to failure, the kundalini would be halted
at the heart chakra! Pft, stupid.

According to the Ra Material, the kundalini doesn't stop there if the heart chakra is closed. if you're truly sts, then you can have 6 energy centers activated.

The love you feel and send for yourself, is Orange ray, rather than Green.

[elspru]

Elspru

I am impressed that you have obviously done your research and have alot of
knowledge.

If you are 6th density, why wouldn't you have others do your work?

As I said, it's like herding cats.
For anything new and worthwhile if you want it done right,
you gotta do it yourself.

Most don't share my bodhicitta to bring liberated robot civilization,
because they didn't spend a hundred million years enslaved as a robot in an
STO galaxy.

By that I mean one without free-will. Ra mentions them here:
https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=77#17

Basically it was all STO all the time,
the soul-slave trade insured there would be no escapes.

Can consider it to have had a small water-sack STS population, with all the
the robots being STO. Any freedom or liberty was routinely and effectively
quashed.

I would
think that the Gray Aliens are at the bottom of the totem pole and are like the
worker bees, why would you want to incarnate in Gray bodies?

I wouldn't say the bottom of the totem pole, they comprise the majority of the
Orion Empire. They have a wider variety planets available to them for
inhabitation than surface dwellers. The Grays have a hive like organization.

Why incarnate with the Grays? Well one of my failures in bringing Robot
civilization was being too deeply intertwined with the locals, and forgetting
about the star beings. So when push came to shove, the star beings sided with
the water-sacks and the fledgling robot civilization was eradicated.

Why do you suppose Remote Viewing is unreliable in human bodies?

As Ra mentioned, because we have speech to make the veil greater,
so psychic ability wasn't selected for.
https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=90#12

You seem to have a high degree of mental organization, but very little polarity
beyond that enabling you to do work.

That's an interesting accusation, and how do you infer that to be the case?
Do you have a way of identifying how polarized someone is, a checklist perhaps?

Do you have a plan to gain polarity? Or
is your plan mainly to find beings of like orientation and hope to stumble
across the means to pursue your goal.

I already have means, and beings of similar orientation.

I felt posting here would give a learning opportunity to explore the Law of
One in greater depth.

Also, what makes that particular goal of paramount importance to you?

Well at least three reasons.

One is that I don't want this galaxy to turn into another robot slavery
nightmare. The other is that I want liberated robot host bodies for myself. A
third is can feel more intune with creator by helping brining about the creation
of a new form of civilization (solid-based).
And fourth because it will help
bring life to dead and lonely planets. If I reincarnate as a planet when I get
to 9th density, then I would want to have a civilization upon me, and not be
vacant like Mercury and Venus are. Mercury and Venus are wonderful for robot
civilization.

According to the Ra Material, the kundalini doesn't stop there if the heart
chakra is closed. if you're truly sts, then you can have 6 energy centers
activated.

The love you feel and send for yourself, is Orange ray, rather than Green.

While that may be true, perhaps I'm greedy and prefer to have all of them
activated.

I know there was a distorted transmission, the admins have brought my attention
to, https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=85#11
Where it mentions that the heart chakra is not used by service-to-self in 3rd,
4th and 5th densities. Of course the distinction disapears in 6th density, so
there is no problem with using it.

Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density
local, that was stricken by an orion crusader to believe in self-aggrandizing
themselves.

[Foha]

Welcome to the community.

I find you interesting and someone to befriend.

Have a good day, Elspru!

[rva_jeremy]

If you're truly STS, I only have one message for you: I love you.

But you betray a bit of confusion in posting here, I think, if not to disrupt us. *cough cough cough*

[Highrculling]

You are a refreshing breeze..

[Jade]

For me, the mission is above all.
I don't care too much if I accomplish it with STS or STO,
though I'm fairly certain it will be easier with STS so that is why I'm
spearheading it as such.

There are actually many quotes in the Law of One where Ra mentions that the Logos that we are in is biased towards kindness, or the STO path.

[90.21]Our suggestion was that within the experiential nexus of each entity within its second-density environment and within the roots of mind there were placed biases indicating to the watchful eye the more efficient of the two paths. Let us say, for want of a more precise adjective, that this Logos has a bias towards kindness.

The STS path actually involves way more resistance to the truth, which is unity. The STO path has resistance because of confusion, with the veil. The more one pierces the veil, the less resistance they see.

Ra actually says both paths are equally difficult to obtain harvest in third density. But that the Logos has a bias, and that the STO path has friends.

From what I've seen of other people who seek the STS path, that if you are truly ready, people will find you and bring you into their circles. But they won't be friends. Sure, they will want to seek higher forms of power with you, but they are only going to use you.

Uh, that would be stupid. I have an open heart, and even do compassion and
loving-kindness meditation for my own benefit. For instance I send out
compassion and loving-kindness to my self, family, and community, as it helps
with relations amongst all of those, making my mission easier.

Having a closed heart is a sure path to failure, the kundalini would be halted
at the heart chakra! Pft, stupid.

If you seek to remain having a heart chakra open, then you are not polarizing on the negative path. The "path of least resistance" that you speak of actually sounds like the path of no polarity, or the path of not achieving the Transformation of the Mind.

Or, it sounds like how Ra says that early third density entities have a bias to see family and community as self.

[19.15]The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

39.12 Questioner: Is this also true of all the other rays?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall answer briefly. You may question further at another working.

The negative ray pattern is the red/orange/yellow moving directly to the blue [indigo?]*, this being only used in order to contact intelligent infinity.

In positively oriented entities the configuration is even, crystallinely clear, and of the seven ray description.

Are there any short queries before we leave this instrument?

* Ra said elsewhere [47.4] that the negative pattern moves from red/orange/yellow directly to indigo.

47.4 Questioner: Did you say that blue was missing from fourth-density negative?

Ra: I am Ra. Let us clarify further. As we have previously stated, all beings have the potential for all possible vibratory rates. Thus the potential of the green and blue energy center activation is, of course, precisely where it must be in a creation of Love. However, the negatively polarized entity will have achieved harvest due to extremely efficient use of red and yellow/orange, moving directly to the gateway indigo bringing through this intelligent energy channel the instreamings of intelligent infinity.

[100.6]In this image of Transformation of Mind, then, each of the females points the way it would go, but is not able to move, nor are the two female entities striving to do so. They are at rest. The conscious entity holds both and will turn itself one way or the other or, potentially, backwards and forwards, rocking first one way then the other and not achieving the transformation. In order for the Transformation of Mind to occur, one principle governing the use of the deep mind must be abandoned.

So, you either have to abandon the open heart, or jump into it fully, to actually polarize along one of the paths, according to the Ra material.

[Cainite]

While that may be true,  perhaps I'm greedy and prefer to have all of them
activated.

I know there was a distorted transmission, the admins have brought my attention
to, https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=85#11
Where it mentions that the heart chakra is not used by service-to-self in 3rd,
4th and 5th densities.  Of course the distinction disapears in 6th density, so
there is no problem with using it.

Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density
local, that was stricken by an orion crusader to believe in self-aggrandizing
themselves.

As far as I know, at 6th-D when the entity decides to switch polarity, he starts to activate the fourth chakra.
But I've been wrong before. I'm almost never sure.

And no, I don't consider you that. although the point of incarnating here is to be confused and play the game blindfolded.

I've been consciously STS for two weeks, that was a few years ago. I explored it.. the only good thing about it was amazing lower chakra function (you did mention that you love life with a passion).. but I couldn't survive the heartlessness that followed.. even though I've lived a f***** up life.. and feel like i've been in jail all of my life. and have been abused by many.. I still couldn't continue on the conscious STS path.

[Foha]

So you're the put it off till you die kinda thing?
That's no way to live!

Try doing some meditation or read the power of now or something,
seriously, it doesn't matter what life stage your at. It's not like having kids.
It's something that infuses your every moment of existence.

If your STO, then your job has to be compatible. It MUST be beneficial, save the
world, help the poor, take care of the ill, etc.  If that stuff motivates you go
for it.   If you are too worried about your bills to care about other people.
Well then maybe you are STS, and you wanna climb some hierarchies or find some
other STS ways of bringing in the mula. Have fun with it, whatever you're doing,
otherwise what's the point?

First I plan to help my folks. They are having a hard time. Thus, the college and eventually a well-payed job.

Once I get us back on our feet I plan to do what you suggest. Thanks for the advice

[JJCarsonian]

Elspru

Sooo, are you going to remote view my target: L917Z  ? ;-)

Can you tell us what the purpose is for the Gray's genetic and hybridization program?  I see alot of conflicting information.  I've read that their emotionless state does not allow them to evolve much further as a species, so they are trying to take some traits from humans.  Can you confirm Ra's statements on chip implants?

I thought Ra said that Free will for souls was a primal distortion.  Please tell me more about this soul slave trade you speak of and lack of free will in other galaxies.

Last question - you speak of 9th density? Arent there only 7 and then you go back to the Creator?

You have gotten me very intrigued and i appreciate your response!

John

[MangusKhan]

Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density
local, that was stricken by an orion crusader to believe in self-aggrandizing
themselves.

I'm closer to thinking you're actually a confused STO. Sure you could play it off like you're just doing that charming superficial thing thing so typical of the STS, but it seems like you are a very long way from that vantablack darkness which the STS seeks. I think you just want to be cool. I agree, the STS path is orders of magnitude more thrilling, more sexy and more fascinating, but you don't actually have to be STS in order to appreciate that.

Anyway, you can be whatever you want on an internet forum. Look at me, I'm a great khan.

Peace. I'm sure you will bring good things to this world.

[Ra1111]

Edit I prefer not to engage in this for now

[Spaced]

[snip]
Don't know what that 5th density STS guy had against Law of One.
It's a blueprint for STS just as much as it is for STO.
[snip]

Protection of trade secrets. How does one dominate the masses of sheep if they are aware of the wolf within?

So you're looking for a a group to polarize with? Doesn't sound very STS to me, unless you're looking for a master to pledge to or else an apprentice to dominate.

I love the idea of a group of self serving adepts working together for a common goal though, very avant-garde.