The Nature of the Logos / Gifting

[Plenum]

just a still from a book that has me entranced at present.



truly the nature of 'full realization' is a true radiance; an abundance from infinity.

Meanwhile the Creator lies within. In the north pole the crown is already upon the head and the entity is potentially a god. This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of the self and of the Creator.

Will you give me a description of the sun, of our sun?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a query which is not easily answered in your language, for the sun has various aspects in relation to intelligent infinity, to intelligent energy, and to each density of each planet, as you call these spheres. Moreover, these differences extend into the metaphysical or time/space part of your creation.

In relationship to intelligent infinity, the sun body is, equally with all parts of the infinite creation, part of that infinity.

In relation to the potentiated intelligent infinity which makes use of intelligent energy, it is the offspring, shall we say, of the Logos for a much larger number of sub-Logoi. The relationship is hierarchical in that the sub-Logos uses the intelligent energy in ways set forth by the Logos and uses its free will to co-create the, shall we say, full nuances of your densities as you experience them.

In relationship to the densities, the sun body may physically, as you would say, be seen to be a large body of gaseous elements undergoing the processes of fusion and radiating heat and light.

[Henosis]

I often visualize the Earth as the root chakra and the Sun as the crown.

[Plenum]

that's beautiful.

[Agua del Cielo]

Thanks for that beautiful post, plenum

@henosis
That sounds good, reminds me of the "unity breath" that Drunvalo Melchizedek was offering.

[AnthroHeart]

The sun is in perpetual orgasmic bliss. I don't think it wants for anything.

[Minyatur]

The sun is in perpetual orgasmic bliss. I don't think it wants for anything.

It sure seems to be doing a whole lot for something that doesn't want for anything.

[APeacefulWarrior]

The sun is in perpetual orgasmic bliss. I don't think it wants for anything.

It sure seems to be doing a whole lot for something that doesn't want for anything.

Well, there's this quote:

41.5 Questioner: In your last statement did you mean that the sixth-density entities are actually creating the manifestation of the sun in their density? Could you explain what you meant by that?
Ra: I am Ra. In this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body. Thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.

Sounds to me like much of the reward of being the sun is simply being the sun. And after all, even though it's technically a lot of "work" in a chemical/physiological sense, a lot of people would consider good sex to be its own reward without "wanting" anything else from the experience.

[GentleWanderer]

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[Minyatur]

The sun is in perpetual orgasmic bliss. I don't think it wants for anything.

It sure seems to be doing a whole lot for something that doesn't want for anything.

Well, there's this quote:

41.5 Questioner: In your last statement did you mean that the sixth-density entities are actually creating the manifestation of the sun in their density? Could you explain what you meant by that?
Ra: I am Ra. In this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body. Thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.

Sounds to me like much of the reward of being the sun is simply being the sun.  And after all, even though it's technically a lot of "work" in a chemical/physiological sense, a lot of people would consider good sex to be its own reward without "wanting" anything else from the experience.

Well I guess being an orgy bed is a reward of it's own but I meant more in term of the Sun-body's core self as a Sub-Logoi and it's experiments of designing experiences of the Creator of Itself based on it's own harvest of experiences and that of other Sub-Logois.

6D has an important role in the Octave design of experiences, both from within and without the Sun-body's beingness, but it remains a sub-aspect of the Sun's work and experiments which is left to sub-consciousnesses' free will.

[AnthroHeart]

The sun is in perpetual orgasmic bliss. I don't think it wants for anything.

It sure seems to be doing a whole lot for something that doesn't want for anything.

Well, there's this quote:

41.5 Questioner: In your last statement did you mean that the sixth-density entities are actually creating the manifestation of the sun in their density? Could you explain what you meant by that?
Ra: I am Ra. In this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body. Thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.

Sounds to me like much of the reward of being the sun is simply being the sun.  And after all, even though it's technically a lot of "work" in a chemical/physiological sense, a lot of people would consider good sex to be its own reward without "wanting" anything else from the experience.

Well I guess being an orgy bed is a reward of it's own but I meant more in term of the Sun-body's core self as a Sub-Logoi and it's experiments of designing experiences of the Creator of Itself based on it's own harvest of experiences and that of other Sub-Logois.

6D has an important role in the Octave design of experiences, both from within and without the Sun-body's beingness, but it remains a sub-aspect of the Sun's work and experiments which is left to sub-consciousnesses' free will.

I can agree. If I were a sub-logos like a sun, and I could design a planet and the beings upon it, it would probably thrill me to no end. If I had the knowledge of the Universe and every possible genetic code to use, it would be very nice. To know the thoughts and see every single being and continuing to provide my love to them would keep me going.

I send love now to people and beings quite a lot. I don't know if I should just send love to those who need it most, or to those who love me and I will love back?

I imagine the angels/beings that will meet me in the afterlife to introduce me to it, and those that will help me through my life review. I like to be loving so that it will make for a better afterlife. And I think my sending of love to others helps them in some way.

[GentleReckoning]

Then what of the black hole?

[Henosis]

The black hole is the Logos. The Sub-Logoi are the offspring of the Logos. The Sun is the offspring of the Galaxy. The center of the Galaxy is the supermassive black hole. At the heart of the supermassive black hole is the singularity, the Logos, the entrance to infinity.

Infinity can't seem to stop itself from overflowing.

[AnthroHeart]

What is the Great Central Sun then?

[Agua del Cielo]

The black hole is the Logos. The Sub-Logoi are the offspring of the Logos. The Sun is the offspring of the Galaxy. The center of the Galaxy is the supermassive black hole. At the heart of the supermassive black hole is the singularity, the Logos, the entrance to infinity.

Infinity can't seem to stop itself from overflowing.

I dont want to be a smart-ass, but how did you come to this conclusion?

I have no personal experience of black holes, so i'm relying on book knowledge here.
I've read about black holes in the latest michael roads book.
He had a metaphysical encounter and a "conversation" with a black hole.
Nothing there imdicated it would be a logos or sublogos.

Did you have any personal experience in regards to black holes?
Just curious...

[Henosis]

Please don't take anything I say as me telling you this is the way it is. Anything I say is a result of my own interpretations and the result of intuitive logic. It is to be noted that these massive celestial objects are only illusory in any density.

I equate gravity with love and the the electomagnetic force with light. They say there may be some galaxies without a supermassive black hole in their center but I believe those without one are simply in the process of developing one. The dazzling darkness of the black hole is actually spherical in nature just like any other star. I often visualize a massive dark star or gravity star as the center of each Galaxy. The singularity of the black hole is quite literally the AXIS on which the Galaxy spins. I see this mysterious darkness beyond the event horizon as the central command center or heart of the Galaxy or Logos.

Energy flows from the larger celestial bodies to the smaller...I see this process occurring as follows based primarily on logic and the Ra material, especially session 13.

Unity
Primal Logos (Creates Infinite Energy)
*Universal Logos (Creates Light)
Galactic Logos (Distorts Light/Creates Densities)
Solar Logos (Refines Light/Customizes Densities)
Planetary Logos (Receives Light/Nurtures Entities)
Sub-Sub Logos (Perceives Light/Experiences Densities)

* - "Big Bang"

Basically each macrocosmic expansion leads to a microcosmic contraction at all levels. I see the meeting place of the north and south pole of the energy centers as being based on the location of this "contraction" within ones energy system. To make matters more confusing, I don't think the original Logos or the "Big Bang" was actually an expansion at all but a contraction...but that opens a whole other can of worms.

I've never had a conversation with a black hole. I'm very mystified by the process of stellar formation and how stars/suns are created via gravitational collapse within molecular clouds. It never occurred to me that the whole creation was alive and intelligent. I honestly thought this was the conclusion the majority Law of One readers would make regarding the galactic center, but I realize the Ra material is more heavily based on the spiritual nature of things vs the material. I see the rational structure of the mind built in a way that mimics the celestial hierarchy. As above, so below.

I'm committed to reconciling science with spirit.

[Minyatur]

The notion of the black hole at the center of galaxies reflect my own seeking.

Any other form of a black hole (outside the center one) then could be considered as Dark Stars or Negative Stars which internalize their plenum of time and space rather than externalize it.

[Minyatur]

What is the Great Central Sun then?

Consider that there is but one Center to all things and the Great Central Sun is the frequency of Infinity as a whole. It is where all spiritual mass meet as One and is the domain of Intelligent Infinity.

Yesterday I was trying to map the Void/Plenum mechanic alongside the fibonacci sequence (0 1 1 2 3 5 8...)

0 would the Source or entire concept of center which requires to become dual to experience itself which leads to the following two 1s.

the first 1 is the Void, the Source separated in a state of experience without manifestation and no further separation of awareness. It is the experience of one united asbsence of all distortions.

the second 1 is the Plenum, the Source in the state of infinity bound in unity (Great Central Sun/Harvest of Infinity), it is free will having found focus through the emerging seeking born in the experience of itself as a Void. It is the 1 that contains every possible distortions manifested in unity.

2,3,5,8.. are sub-sequent possible intelligent distortions contained in a state of absences of themselves or manifestation of themselves within the 1/1 dualization of the Source. Every distortion is a force of separation that holds your center of awareness illusionary as away from the Source. This is how we experience being space-bound and time-bound despite that we all exist as one center truly one within another.

[Henosis]

At least with "younger" black holes, they are the result of an extremely intense concentration of mass collapsing on itself. Very massive stars tend to collapse into neutron stars, and the most massive into black holes. According to science, our star, sun or sub-Logos is not massive enough to form either one, and after it becomes a "Red Giant" and sheds its outer layers it will form into a white dwarf.

They say that after a white dwarf burns out, it becomes a "black dwarf" and no longer emits light/heat. What's amazing is that none exist and since the formation of the universe, not one star has burnt out. They say it would take trillions of years lol. That's crazy!

[GentleReckoning]

As far as I can tell, the black hole level of consciousness is a deep level of unity consciousness. Essentially holding the fabric of reality together, and transmuting all energy to the next (or previous) octave. If you're looking for unity consciousness, probably the best energy to connect to. Everything stripped away except the memory of gravity. Exactly the same as every other dense ball, except for spin. Kind of like how old people tend to get comfortable with life. It's just their spin on reality that creates their experience at that point...

However, I'm young, and may start seeking a more individuated consciousness.