Does Ra say where treasured pets go after death?

[Chandlersdad]

Forgive me if this is the wrong place for this, but does Ra ever state what happens to 2D entities after death? What happens to pets who were extremely intelligent and filled with love AND received tremendous love in return every day. No, I am not talking about being incarnated as a bottom basement level human. I mean, did Ra ever say where such animals go immediately after death?

My dog Chandler of 9 years is gone. The Vet found a cancerous tumor the side of a melon on the spleen that was pushing against the other organs. We could not get Chandler to eat or drink for 2 days, so he was becoming dehydrated. The options would have meant pain and misery for him only to extend his life perhaps 6 months or less. So we decided to let him go before he became totally dehydrated and starving. Plus the doctor feared that the tumor could burst at any moment within him which would be a horrible experience for him to go through. So we let him go. I was with him.
Wes is deeply emotional, so I had to postpone my grief to deal with his hysterics. Having worked with a hospice as a volunteer for years, I have learned to stay relatively calm when circumstances demand it, putting my emotion on the back burner for when I can let lose.

We both did at home since reminders of Chandler are everywhere. I comfort Wes and he comforts me. But I wish there was someone here to comfort both of us. But we've never had that.
I am in fear of hyperventilating right now, and fainting. I know I have to dial it down. I took a Clonazepam pill for anxiety. I don't know if a glass of wine is a good or bad idea. I need to just breath deeply in and out. Plus, I worry about Wes because he has Parkinsons' Disease, and cannot afford to let his body become unbalanced. So I have been reminding him to dial it back for the sake of his body. He is lying down. When I am anxious or blue, I become very cold. So I am wearing 2 coats right now and my feet are freezing. It is probably around 80 degrees outside.

I wish some of you truly kind folks were closer by. Thank you for letting me share this. Chandler slept next to me every night. Tonight is going to be very hard.

[anagogy]

Sorry for your loss, Chandlersdad. There is nothing quite so harsh as losing a member of the family.

In regards to your question, to my awareness Ra did not specifically mention where cherished pets go immediately after death, but it is my understanding that such beloved companions are essentially 3rd density harvestable. As such, rather than returning to the group consciousness of the 2D animal kingdom, they remain individualized by the love they were clothed with in life and reside on the middle astral planes. It is also possible that rather than going on, into full fledged 3rd density incarnation, they will occasionally choose to be reborn in yet another 2D physical body that will have contact with you in the future due to loving association between owner and pet. But be rest assured, whichever the case, that loving spirit helpers are taking very good care of Chandler, and he is in a very joyous realm of existence.

[Glow]

Forgive me if this is the wrong place for this, but does Ra ever state what happens to 2D entities after death? What happens to pets who were extremely intelligent and filled with love AND received tremendous love in return every day. No, I am not talking about being incarnated as a bottom basement level human. I mean, did Ra ever say where such animals go immediately after death?

My dog Chandler of 9 years is gone. The Vet found a cancerous tumor the side of a melon on the spleen that was pushing against the other organs. We could not get Chandler to eat or drink for 2 days, so he was becoming dehydrated. The options would have meant pain and misery for him only to extend his life perhaps 6 months or less. So we decided to let him go before he became totally dehydrated and starving. Plus the doctor feared that the tumor could burst at any moment within him which would be a horrible experience for him to go through. So we let him go. I was with him.
Wes is deeply emotional, so I had to postpone my grief to deal with his hysterics. Having worked with a hospice as a volunteer for years, I have learned to stay relatively calm when circumstances demand it, putting my emotion on the back burner for when I can let lose.

We both did at home since reminders of Chandler are everywhere. I comfort Wes and he comforts me. But I wish there was someone here to comfort both of us. But we've never had that.
I am in fear of hyperventilating right now, and fainting. I know I have to dial it down. I took a Clonazepam pill for anxiety. I don't know if a glass of wine is a good or bad idea. I need to just breath deeply in and out. Plus, I worry about Wes because he has Parkinsons' Disease, and cannot afford to let his body become unbalanced. So I have been reminding him to dial it back for the sake of his body. He is lying down. When I am anxious or blue, I become very cold. So I am wearing 2 coats right now and my feet are freezing. It is probably around 80 degrees outside.

I wish some of you truly kind folks were closer by. Thank you for letting me share this. Chandler slept next to me every night. Tonight is going to be very hard.

I'm so sorry for your loss. I don't know any quick cure for this. Im greatful I had recently broken bones when I lost my last two because I was thankfully highly medicated for the initial 2-3 days. They can be so close it's devastating.

I too have no idea what Ra would say but I can tell you I did dog fostering for a while and I had a dog come through that instantly I knew him and he knew me. He was only a pup so it certainly wasn't in his current life but the recognition was there for both of us. It was like I had been waiting for him and he was a menace for anyone else who tried to foster him but a love machine with me.

We had our time and I found him his meant to be little boy to love. Him returning to you is possible. I still keep my eye out for a certain cat I had 18 years, you never know. Hugs to you and Wes.

Take care of each other, time for comfort food and some rest.

[YinYang]

I'm sorry for your loss, Chandlersdad. My one is also ancient, 98 in dog years (14 in human years). Got a scare just the other day, but the vet said no such worries just yet, and the lady at the doggie parlor said they easily reach 18.

I know you feel horrible, but death is the most natural thing in the world, it should not be feared for yourself or anyone you love. We are all immortal. Get yourself a new labby, Chandler is already having his next adventure, and celebrate the great life that he had. The irony is if he's a newly graduated 3D human now, you will likely not like him very much.

Our suffering is rooted in desiring permanence, the moment you embrace impermanence, things ease up immediately, and you treasure the present moment. I hope you guys feel better soon.

[Infinite Unity]

I understand your great pain chandlersdad. I am also very sorry Wes and you are going through this now. However I cannot say for certain where chandler went. I know that every single portion is the creator, and never truly dies. I can take a swing at where chandler is. The incarnating rotation for 2nd density beings is quite a bit different then for 3d humans. Like insects, die,and get immediately re-incarnated. However it is my belief that if chandler was able to gather the awareness of self. Then he was then taken to a 3d environment best suited for his growth/experience. I do not agree with the expectation of every newly 3d entity is non-likable. If he did not become self aware to the degree to put the yellow ray into activation, then he is sent on another 2d experience. Determined by his own needs/awareness. Stay strong, gather your strength, and kneel at the feet of the creator. All is well.

[YinYang]

I do not agree with the expectation of every newly 3d entity is non-likable.

That was actually just an attempt to bring a little humour and lightheartedness into the situation. This written medium is not very expressive.

[YinYang]

I am an aperture for the Creator, to glimpse a unique perspective and experience for the Creator, and so is every other living being on this planet.

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to beingness.

When I blow out my last breath in this physical vehicle, I remain an aperture for the Creator in the next experience without skipping a beat.

Never hold on, always let go, that's freedom.

[the]

I am not sure if Ra material mentioned this. but based on omnec-onec's book (she also claims she came from Venus, fourth density), most our of pets will become human being and probably even live with us after they reincarnate. and we will meet with them in this or other life times.

[herald]

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From Michael Newton “Journey of Souls” p 301.

(Summarized)

There are specialties in the afterlife, and one of them is called "animal caretaker”. It is not a common pursuit, but animal and pet lovers appreciate them very much. They have a skill to track the essence of the animal companions of souls in that world and the "spark" of their personality. They help souls who long to be reunited with their pets to recreate them in their new reality.

My personal account here, as one who experienced a Life-Between-Lives session with a Newton practitioner:

My wife and I raised two terriers from pups (girl and boy), and they are now 15. I love them, of course, but the dogs were with us mainly because of our sons, who have long since moved away. In other words, I admit to not being as much of an animal lover as many others. I say this because in my LBL session, I was reunited with what I under hypnosis called a pet.

I had a good laugh and a moment of joy as I also realized that I had experienced much awakening myself in the second density as that very species, giving me an even stronger connection with my pal.

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[Jade]

Hi Chandlersdad. You will always be Chandler's dad. The hardest day of my life was 2 and a half years ago when we had to put our German shepherd down. She was only 4. I understand your deep pain. I am so sorry.

Here is what the Ra material says about what you have asked, in my interpretation though others have disagreed. They asked quite a bit about their cat, Gandalf. Ra says that Gandalf was individualized from a previous incarnation, and was able to learn spiritual lessons about love in his current incarnation.

30.13 Questioner: I was wondering if the male cat, Gandalf, has benefited by that mechanism in some way or by other mechanisms in increasing spiritual potential or understanding.

Ra: I am Ra. We examine this information and find it harmless. The second-density entity, sound vibration Gandalf, is a rare sample of its species due first to previous individualization, secondly due to a great amount of investment in this particular life experience. This is the greatest catalyst in this entity’s progress. It is very unusual, as we have said. However, the experiences of bisexual reproduction which were of the nature of the entity Gandalf were to a small extent of spiritual benefit due to an unusual relationship with another entity, this also what you call a cat. This entity also being of an unusually third-density orientation or investment from previous life experiences. [the other cat] Thus the formation of what could be seen to be recognizably love did exist in this relationship.

To me, this implies that Gandalf is a mind/body/spirit complex within a cat body.

What this also very clearly implies was that Gandalf reincarnated into another cat form to be with its beloved owners again. I've had this experience with my pets and have had clear dreams about it.

Here Ra says that upon Gandalf's death, Gandalf could choose to harvest to the next density or again choose to incarnate as a cat.

104.10 Questioner: I feel very bad about the condition of the cat and really would like to help it. Can Ra suggest anything that we can do to help out Gandalf?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

104.11 Questioner: What would that be?

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we would suggest that possibility/probability vortices include those in which the entity known as Gandalf has a lengthier incarnation. Secondly, we would suggest that this entity goes to a graduation if it desires. Otherwise, it may choose to reincarnate to be with those companions it has loved. Thirdly, the entity known to you as Betty has the means of making the entity more distorted towards comfort/discomfort.

Whether or not your dog was harvestable is not something I can judge, but I do lean towards a bias of seeing the awareness of animals. Even if he is harvestable, he can still choose to come back and be with you - and likely will by my guess, unless you communicate with him a strong desire to see him move on. A little blip of 9 years as a spoiled and beloved pet is hardly enough to hold one back in their spiritual journey - and I firmly believe that a mind/body/spirit complex can inhabit a 2d body and begin to learn the lessons of love.

I also enjoy entertaining the thought that as our pets ascend the densities, and we are a few steps ahead of them, that we will be/are their guides. This has also helped smooth a lot of distortions of judgement within me. I've thought to myself, when watching the appallingly ignorant behavior of another, that what if that was just my sweet little shih tzu Butters fumbling around in one of his first human incarnations? This thought turns irritation to joy right quick!!

I hope you find some comfort soon. My go-to suggestion upon the death of a pet is to encourage someone to go to a shelter and adopt a new one (save a life after watching one be taken), but I also understand that the grieving process is very important. It was two years after Dexter died before we even began talking about getting another dog ... but as soon as we did, one literally showed up on our doorstep. A dog just about two years old....

[herald]

"... as our pets ascend the densities, and we are a few steps ahead of them, that we will be/are their guides."

We joke sometimes that they might get ahead of us...

[Chandlersdad]

Hi Chandlersdad. You will always be Chandler's dad. The hardest day of my life was 2 and a half years ago when we had to put our German shepherd down. She was only 4. I understand your deep pain. I am so sorry.

Here is what the Ra material says about what you have asked, in my interpretation though others have disagreed. They asked quite a bit about their cat, Gandalf. Ra says that Gandalf was individualized from a previous incarnation, and was able to learn spiritual lessons about love in his current incarnation.

30.13 Questioner: I was wondering if the male cat, Gandalf, has benefited by that mechanism in some way or by other mechanisms in increasing spiritual potential or understanding.

Ra: I am Ra. We examine this information and find it harmless. The second-density entity, sound vibration Gandalf, is a rare sample of its species due first to previous individualization, secondly due to a great amount of investment in this particular life experience. This is the greatest catalyst in this entity’s progress. It is very unusual, as we have said. However, the experiences of bisexual reproduction which were of the nature of the entity Gandalf were to a small extent of spiritual benefit due to an unusual relationship with another entity, this also what you call a cat. This entity also being of an unusually third-density orientation or investment from previous life experiences. [the other cat] Thus the formation of what could be seen to be recognizably love did exist in this relationship.

To me, this implies that Gandalf is a mind/body/spirit complex within a cat body.

What this also very clearly implies was that Gandalf reincarnated into another cat form to be with its beloved owners again. I've had this experience with my pets and have had clear dreams about it.

Here Ra says that upon Gandalf's death, Gandalf could choose to harvest to the next density or again choose to incarnate as a cat.

104.10 Questioner: I feel very bad about the condition of the cat and really would like to help it. Can Ra suggest anything that we can do to help out Gandalf?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

104.11 Questioner: What would that be?

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we would suggest that possibility/probability vortices include those in which the entity known as Gandalf has a lengthier incarnation. Secondly, we would suggest that this entity goes to a graduation if it desires. Otherwise, it may choose to reincarnate to be with those companions it has loved. Thirdly, the entity known to you as Betty has the means of making the entity more distorted towards comfort/discomfort.

Whether or not your dog was harvestable is not something I can judge, but I do lean towards a bias of seeing the awareness of animals. Even if he is harvestable, he can still choose to come back and be with you - and likely will by my guess, unless you communicate with him a strong desire to see him move on. A little blip of 9 years as a spoiled and beloved pet is hardly enough to hold one back in their spiritual journey - and I firmly believe that a mind/body/spirit complex can inhabit a 2d body and begin to learn the lessons of love.

I also enjoy entertaining the thought that as our pets ascend the densities, and we are a few steps ahead of them, that we will be/are their guides. This has also helped smooth a lot of distortions of judgement within me. I've thought to myself, when watching the appallingly ignorant behavior of another, that what if that was just my sweet little shih tzu Butters fumbling around in one of his first human incarnations? This thought turns irritation to joy right quick!!

I hope you find some comfort soon. My go-to suggestion upon the death of a pet is to encourage someone to go to a shelter and adopt a new one (save a life after watching one be taken), but I also understand that the grieving process is very important. It was two years after Dexter died before we even began talking about getting another dog ... but as soon as we did, one literally showed up on our doorstep. A dog just about two years old....

Thank you for this. In some ways, it seems like a step back for a 2D intelligent creature totally living for love to become a schmucky human, perhaps in a retarded or simplistic shell. From pure love to human idiocy. However, if that is a necessary step in the overall plan of the Octave, then it must be done at some point. I do wonder at the innate consciousness of a 2D pet after death. How can they conceptualize the choice of being a 2D again versus a 3D. Does a 2D entity in the astral plane suddenly possess this kind of intelligence? Afterall, I thought that lower level humans, e.g., 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 may have no hand in their actual incarnations. So how much input would a dog or cat have?

I would hope that Chandler does not attempt to return to be with us. I am almost 65 and Wes is almost 68. I am not sure how long we will be in 3D. When we lost our first dog, when she was only 5 years old (a Black Widow spider bit her and she went into shock and died)., we went and got a rescued dog. This helped alleviate the grief a great deal because suddenly we had this very young exuberant entity living with us who demands that we play and cuddle. My only concern about doing this again is our ages. But time will tell.

[Infinite Unity]

I do not agree with the expectation of every newly 3d entity is non-likable.

That was actually just an attempt to bring a little humour and lightheartedness into the situation. This written medium is not very expressive.

I would agree that the medium is not the best. After re-reading your post, I can see the lightheartedness in it. I did not mean any offense in my post though. =)

Im not the best with humor either so..:p

[Infinite Unity]

I am an aperture for the Creator, to glimpse a unique perspective and experience for the Creator, and so is every other living being on this planet.

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to beingness.

When I blow out my last breath in this physical vehicle, I remain an aperture for the Creator in the next experience without skipping a beat.

Never hold on, always let go, that's freedom.

I would agree that each experience is unto the next. From living an experience, to life review.

[Jade]

I would hope that Chandler does not attempt to return to be with us. I am almost 65 and Wes is almost 68.  I am not sure how long we will be in 3D. When we lost our first dog, when she was only 5 years old (a Black Widow spider bit her and she went into shock and died)., we went and got a rescued dog. This helped alleviate the grief a great deal because suddenly we had this very young exuberant entity living with us who demands that we play and cuddle.  My only concern about doing this again is our ages. But time will tell.

Then I'd maybe follow Ra's suggestion to spend some time sending Chandler thoughts to move on to harvest, if ready. As far as adopting a new dog - you could always adopt an older dog. They're usually already trained and demand little attention, but regular meals and a soft place to sleep and occasional snuggles.

One of my favorite corners of the internet: https://www.facebook.com/OldFriendsSeniorDogSanctuary/

[Nicholas]

Hey buddy,

My cat, Gizmo, is well over 15 years now and I got him when he was a kitten. I can relate somewhat because he also sleeps next to me every night. In fact he climbs under our duvet so he can curl up next to my belly, and the muffled purring helps me drift off to sleep. His eyesight is starting to go and he lumbers on his back legs a lot more these days. I am getting him some cat stairs for christmas so I don't have to keep picking him up and putting him on his bed (which is on our bay window beside my computer table). He goes wherever I go and that will be the hardest thing to deal with when he actually, does go. His devotion to me is incomparable. But I also realise that this is one of the most fundamental lessons of love in 3rd density, the lesson of losing, or loss.

Yeah it would be great if we all lived down the same street! I would call it "Communion Avenue"  

we went and got a rescued dog. This helped alleviate the grief a great deal because suddenly we had this very young exuberant entity living with us who demands that we play and cuddle.  My only concern about doing this again is our ages. But time will tell.

Not all rescue dogs are young!

[anagogy]

I do wonder at the innate consciousness of a 2D pet after death. How can they conceptualize the choice of being a 2D again versus a 3D. Does a 2D entity in the astral plane suddenly possess this kind of intelligence? Afterall, I thought that lower level humans, e.g., 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 may have no hand in their actual incarnations. So how much input would a dog or cat have?  

You raise a very valid point, but keep in mind that we never exist at just one level of consciousness (our consciousness stretches through the entire continuum of our "future" development -- i.e. all is NOW).

If a being hasn't awoken its heart center it does not consciously take part in the selection of incarnation, in which case, the higher self plans the conditions of its next incarnation. Essentially, even an undeveloped entity has a superconscious future version of their consciousness that watches over the evolution of its past self.

[YinYang]

Hope you're feeling a little better today, Chandlersdad.

Here's a video specially for you of a very harvestable dog!



It's a homeless dog apparently, I would fly all the way to Brazil to pick him up.