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    #31
    05-18-2016, 07:43 PM
    Thanking Latwii

    Date: 21 May, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

    Theme: The name of 'Latwii' came up in the forums this past week.  Most namely:

    Ra Wrote:Also, Latwii is the primary comforter of the Confederation for entities seeking at the vibratory complex level of the one known as Jim.

    So as much as we know that Ra is 'out there', somewhere, we can be reasonably assured that Latwii, too, is 'out there', doing their work and business.

    For those not too familiar with the 'voice' of Latwii, here's a linking to the "I am Latwii" transcripts, as opposed to the 'I am Ra" communications.

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=site%3Allresearch.org+...

    Most notably, here is a portion of a communications which took place on Dec 31, 1980, just TWO WEEKS before the first Ra communications.

    Latwii Wrote:Jim: Latwii, how do you feel that Don and Carla and I can best serve the planet and fulfill our mission (inaudible)?

    My brother, you have one mission above all others and that is, as you already know, which we are only confirming, to realize your true nature. As it happens, you have managed to arrive into a position where the mirror in which you look to determine your true character is a true mirror given support by those who will not lie to you in any way or give you a false image.

    This is true of each of the three of you, and as you work together, that will be your chief work: the improvement of the understanding of your own personality and the disciplines necessary to complete the understanding of that personality. Each of you will help the other. Each of you will learn. This is your most important task.

    The other tasks are within your free will and we cannot comment upon them at this time for we can only go as far as free will allows and you, at this time, and your comrades, are at a state of choosing what you will do of your own free will. Thus, we ask you to meditate and learn from yourselves what it is that you must do. We are always with you and commend you to the love of the Creator.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._1231.aspx

    Anyway, we are not looking for anything specific in this Meditation; just the offering of thanks for their service.  They might not even be serving us at this time, but rather others, but that is worth acknowledging too.

    We'll gather in the chatroom on the Hour, and spend the usual ten minutes just catching up with each other.

    The Meditation itself will go for seven minutes.

    With Love,

    Plenum
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    05-25-2016, 06:42 PM (This post was last modified: 05-25-2016, 06:44 PM by Plenum.)
    Thanking of Nature

    Date: 28 May, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

    Theme: Most of us have felt a sense of calmness and relaxation in nature at some point.  Freed from the ongoing diversions that characterize much of our culture, our fields can unwind a bit, and be expressed in a more spontaneous fashion.  Such is the essence of this answer from Ra, when inquired about the practical supportive aspects of a meditative practice.

    Quote:43.31 Questioner: I was really trying to get at whether it would be of great importance to construct a better place for our meditations. We have distractions here of the types which I mentioned, and I know that it is our total free will as to whether we construct this or not, but I was just trying to get at the principles. For instance, the Faraday cage would be quite a big construction and I was wondering if it would be of any real value?

    Ra: I am Ra. Without infringing upon free will we feel it possible to state that the Faraday cage and the isolation tank are gadgets.

    The surrounding of self in a sylvan atmosphere, apart from distractions, in a place of working used for no other purpose, in which you and your associates agree to lay aside all goals but that of the meditative seeking of the Infinite Creator is, shall we say, not gadgetry but the making use of the creation of the Father in second-density love, and in the love and support of other-selves. Are there any brief queries before this working is at an end?

    So let us thank the opportunity of Nature, when we get to have those opportunities to be right amongst it, and have a more sacramental mindset.

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    06-01-2016, 08:02 PM
    Thanking the Red Ray

    Date: 4 June, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

    / /

    Theme: I'll just post 3 pertinent quotes for consideration for this Week's Meditation.

    "the first balancing"

    15.12 Wrote:Ra sayz: The first balancing is of the Malkuth, or Earth, vibratory energy complex, called the red-ray complex. An understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental.

    "the basic strengthening ray"

    39.10 Wrote:Firstly, the basic energy of so-called red ray. This ray may be understood to be the basic strengthening ray for each density. It shall never be condescended to as less important or productive of spiritual evolution, for it is the foundation ray.

    "the root possibility of response"

    50.2 Wrote:The only specific part of this correctness is that the red-ray or foundation energy center, being the lowest or root energy center of the physical vehicle, will have the first opportunity to react to any experience. In this way only, you may see a physical locus of the south pole being identified with the root energy center. In every facet of mind and body the root or foundation will be given the opportunity to function first.

    What is this opportunity but survival? This is the root possibility of response and may be found to be characteristic of the basic functions of both mind and body. You will find this instinct the strongest, and once this is balanced much is open to the seeker. The south pole then ceases blocking the experiential data and higher energy centers of mind and body become availed of the opportunity to use the experience drawn to it.

    Namaste.
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    06-08-2016, 05:19 PM
    Thanking the Summer

    Date: 11 June, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: For almost all Chatroom Meditation participants, it is now heading into the 'summer' or warmer season.  That is in stark contrast to this southern-hemisphere-dwelling entity who is currently experiencing the opposite end of the scale, with some frosty cold, and blustery rains being my climactic 'fruit'.

    Nonetheless - let not one individual stand in the way of a celebration of all things warm, sweaty, vibrant, and fecundacious (full of life).  

    The summer holds the great potential for a quickening, a ripening, and a fruition.  There are different animals and plants out and about.  It's a different atmosphere.  One can be outdoors much more freely; one may be able to work the soil much more freely.  It's just a different experience of things.

    So let us give thanks and due appreciation to the opportunities that come with this seasonal aspect.

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    Meditation: I thank the summer weather and climate for all the opportunities it brings.  I acknowlege and value the catalyst that this season brings.  Namaste.

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    06-15-2016, 05:46 PM
    Thanking the Hierophant Archetype

    Date: 18 June, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: this is the Archetype I'm talking about:

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    and this is Ra's thoughts on it:

    Quote:79.42 Questioner: Then I will just ask for the one of the archetypes which I am least understanding at this point if I can use that word at all. I am still very much in the dark, so to speak, with respect to the Hierophant and precisely what it is. Could you give me some other indication of what that is, please?

    Ra: I am Ra. You have been most interested in the Significator which must needs become complex. The Hierophant is the original archetype of mind which has been made complex through the subtile movements of the conscious and unconscious. The complexities of mind were evolved rather than the simple melding of experience from Potentiator to Matrix.

    The mind itself became an actor possessed of free will and, more especially, will.

    As the Significator of the mind, the Hierophant has the will to know, but what shall it do with its knowledge, and for what reasons does it seek?

    The potential[s] of a complex significator are manifold.

    Are there any brief queries at this working?

    Unfortunately, this card has also been named the 'Pope' in some decks, and so attracted all the unsavory meanings that are attached to a singular figurehead of the Roman Catholic Church: with all the implications of 'top down' rule, papal bulls and commandments, coverups, and an extremely organized, pervasive, yellow-ray organization involved in schooling, hospitals, and chaplaincy.  That's not to throw the baby out with the bath water, but one can't say that negative associations are not part-and-parcel of the 'Pope'.

    So maybe we can keep to a more 'pure' reading of the word Hierophant.

    / /

    so let's focus on the aspect of the Significator of the Mind that speaks to the self-autonomic aspects, rather than any externally driven (and motivated) movements.  They will happen in and of themselves.

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    06-23-2016, 01:20 AM
    Thanking the Earlier Wanderers

    Date: 25 June, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: We live in societies where most of us take for granted that we have electricity and can stay up for as long as we want.  The notion of being tied to the cycle of sunlight, and being restricted by candlelight and wood fires at night is not one that enters into our minds; except, perhaps, when we go camping, and even then there are portable electrical devices which can ease the experience.

    We also take it for granted that we live in fairly liberal democracies, where, on paper, we get to elect the people that end up governing us.  This was not the case when we go back 300, 400 years, when monarchs and Royalty held onto the reins of governance, and it was passed down as familial lines.  The haves and the have-nots was not only brazen (it's still present today), but the 'right to rule' was seen as some sort of genetic trait.

    So what does this have to do with the earlier Wanderers?

    If Ra is to be taken on face value, then around 200 years ago, a greater number of 3d entities were beginning to incarnate with heart-level activations, and were consciously directing their incarnational processes.  As part of providing a supportive environment for their particular Learning, the current societies had to be 'softened' up a little, and loosened from the rigid lord/serf relationships.

    This provided an opportunity for Wanderers (according to Ra) to incarnate, and offer their vantage points (perspectives) to the current societies.

    The Industrial Revolution had this Goal:

    11.29 Wrote:That is correct. Wanderers incarnated in several waves, as you may call them, in order to bring into existence the gradual freeing from the demands of the diurnal cycles and lack of freedom of leisure.

    But even before that could happen, the ideas and philosophies around Free Will had to find circulation.

    26.13 Wrote:The Wanderers which came among you began to make themselves felt at approximately this time, firstly offering ideas or thoughts containing the distortion of free will. This was the prerequisite for further Wanderers which had information of a more specific nature to offer. The thought must precede the action.

    So we take it for granted that we have internet, youtube, mobile phones, and tv screens.  Even back when I was growing up in the 80's, having so many (and individual) electronic devices was not a given.  The earliest consoles (NES, Sega Megadrive) were seen as miracles.

    But think of a period before electricity, before running water.  Think of candles and chamber pots.

    This was the common way of life.  Wanderers who have chosen this period where we are now, have a physically easier life, I would venture to say, in general.

    The earlier Wanderers chose a much more difficult assignment (in my view), given the kinds of societies in which they chose - given both the technological, as well as social aspects relative to ours.

    Looking back in retrospect, I think we can be grateful that they paved the way for modernity, and the relative ease and comfort that we can experience in our rooms and houses.

    For me, the circumstances in the present are most supportive, and enabling of the kind of Work that I think is dearest to my Heart.  But all this is built (and predicated) on much Work that came previous.  For that, I can say thanks to these earlier Wanderers, as well as all those who contributed towards movements towards personal freedom.

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    06-27-2016, 08:55 PM
    Thanking of the Dream-Space

    Date: 2 July, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: it's no secret that I'm a big fan of the dream-space.  However, that was not always the case.  Before I came across the figure of David Wilcock, and him talking about his use of Dreams, I didn't make any concious use of my dream material.  I just didn't know how to.  But it was just the thought that Dreams could be useful, and that there were ways of extracting substance from them, that lead me full into the use of this tool/mirror.  Haven't looked back since.

    Ra also has some exceptional thoughts, when speaking on this Topic.

    The Healing Effect of Dreams.

    86.12 Wrote:The activity of dreaming is an activity in which there is made a finely wrought and excellently fashioned bridge from conscious to unconscious. In this state the various distortions which have occurred in the energy web of the body complex, due to the misprecision with which energy influxes have been received, are healed. With the proper amount of dreaming comes the healing of these distortions. Continued lack of this possibility can cause seriously distorted mind/body/spirit complexes.


    A Common and a Unique (Personal) Vocabulary of Symbols.

    95.18 Wrote:I am Ra. There is what might be called a partial vocabulary of the dreams due to the common heritage of all mind/body/spirit complexes. Due to each entity’s unique incarnational experiences there is an overlay which grows to be a larger and larger proportion of the dream vocabulary as the entity gains experience.


    Clues as to Energetic Blockages

    86.11 Wrote:Questioner: In that remembering dreams, you are saying that the individual can find specific clues to current energy center blockages and may, thereby, reduce or eliminate those blockages. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

    / /



    A Self Directed Tool for Learning


    86.7 Wrote:As a mind/body/spirit* consciously chooses the path of the adept and, with each energy center balanced to a minimal degree, begins to open the indigo-ray energy center, the so-called dreaming becomes the most efficient tool for polarization, for, if it is known by the adept that work may be done in consciousness while the so-called conscious mind rests, this adept may call upon those which guide it, those presences which surround it, and, most of all, the magical personality which is the higher self in space/time analog as it moves into the sleeping mode of consciousness. With these affirmations attended to, the activity of dreaming reaches that potential of learn/teaching which is most helpful to increasing the distortions of the adept towards its chosen polarity.

    There are other possibilities of the dreaming not so closely aligned with the increase in polarity which we do not cover at this particular space/time.

    * Should be mind/body/spirit complex. Ra and Don corrected the error in session 87.

    so one can see that we have a valuable tool/resource here, if it able to be seen (and recognised) for what it is.

    So for this Meditation, for those that are interested, we will gather to offer thanks and gratitude for this particular aspect of the self, and it's potentials/possibilities.

    Namaste beaucoup.
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    07-04-2016, 07:13 PM
    Thanking of the Air

    Date: 9 July, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: Most of us will be living in situations or circumstances where the Air is fairly safe to breathe.  That has not always been the case on planet earth.

    Scarely 150 years ago, coal burning was the major form of heating in many cities.  And so the cumulative effect of coal burning indoors, as well as a whole city doing such, was thick, barely breathable conditions.  And hence the many respiratory issues that followed.

    Even today, some cities may not have the best air support.  I've read that megacities in China can be plagued by smog.  If one lives near a coal mining area (like Newcastle, north of Sydney), the uncovered coal trains can leave a lot of particulates in the air, as they pass through.  The residents of those places notice the effects.

    So clean air is taken for granted.  And it should be taken for granted ... if we always respected the environment, fully.  But, unfortunately, as humans have come to terms with various technologies, the air has been an unfortunate collatoral victim.  Think of the destruction of the ozone layer, before the banning of CFC's.  Unfortunate planetary wide consequences of the use of certain technologies.  In most cases, out of naiveté, rather than deliberate malice.

    And yet, what we do to our planet, we do to ourselves.

    / /

    Some pertinent Ra quotes:

    Air being a 'leader'

    Quote:78.29 Questioner: I understand your limitations in answering that. Thank you.

    Could you tell me how, in first density, wind and fire teach earth and water?

    Ra: I am Ra. You may see the air and fire of that which is chaos as literally illuminating and forming the formless, for earth and water were, in the timeless state, unformed. As the active principles of fire and air blow and burn incandescently about that which nurtures that which is to come, the water learns to become sea, lake, and river offering the opportunity for viable life. The earth learns to be shaped, thus offering the opportunity for viable life.

    The First Entities

    Quote:9.5 Questioner: The original, the first entities on this planet— what was their origin? Where were they before they were on this planet?

    Ra: I am Ra. The first entities upon this planet were water, fire, air and earth.

    and the inevitable red-ray Overlap, that this Meditation will probably touch upon:

    Quote:41.10 Questioner: When first density is formed, we have fire, air, earth, and water. There is at some time the first movement or individuation of life into a portion of consciousness that is self-mobile. Could you describe the process of the creation of this and what type of energy center that it has?

    Ra: I am Ra. The first or red-ray density, though attracted towards growth, is not in the proper vibration for those conditions conducive to what you may call the spark of awareness.

    As the vibratory energies move from red to orange the vibratory environment is such as to stimulate those chemical substances which lately had been inert to combine in such a fashion that love and light begin the function of growth.

    The supposition which you had earlier made concerning single-celled entities such as the polymorphous dinoflagellate is correct. The mechanism is one of the attraction of upward spiraling light. There is nothing random about this or any portion of evolution.

    / /

    Namaste Elemental Air.

    ps, all 'Airbenders' welcome to this Meditation Tongue
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    07-14-2016, 10:23 PM
    Thanking the Cancer (astrological) archetype

    Date: 16 July, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: Astrology is a valid archetypal system.  Ra (if it's of any consideration) acknowledges this themselves.

    Much like the archetypes of the tarot, all these things exist as potentials and possibilities within the mind.  It's there that we can acknowledge and value the various energies and patterned configurations that exist.

    But much like we chose either a male body or a female body as the anchor for our Experience, which slants things greatly; our astrological charts are also skewed towards certain types of influences and inputs; to give us a certain focus on Experience; a focus that is deemed appropriate relative to the life goals and purpose of that Incarnation.  And so each of our Charts is replete with focal energy points.  

    A Capricorn energy (in one House) has a vastly different effect than an Aries (in that same House).  

    If we look at the most significant effects (relative to a layman or layperson), the combination of the Sun Sign (day/conscious) and the Moon Sign (night/unconscious) can offer significant insight into what 'drives' that person.  Of course, the charts themselves are multifaceted creations; so we by no means should overlook the abundance of Influences in Consciousness.

    But here, we can at least acknowledge the effects of the Cancer Archetype.  In terms of the Sun Sign, these would be people born between Jun 22 and Jul 22.  Carla Rueckert being one of these.  I also believe that one of our regular Meditation members is also of this Sign Tongue

    But regardless, I'm sure you know those who have this Sun Sign.  And that this Archetype (that of Cancer) also may be in your own chart, somewhere else (maybe as a Moon Sign, or Ascendant, or what-not).  But even if not, one can value this Quality; maybe the more-so, if it's not in your personal chart.

    Just for some basic background info on the Cancer Archetype.

    / /

    http://astrologyclub.org/cancer-archetype/

    Quote:Cancer Archetype

    Core Insights for Cancer

    Mode: Outward (Activating, Initiating, Creating, Expressing, Illuminating)

    Element: Water (Imagination, Impressions, Emotion, Soul, Sensitivity)

    Archetypal Images: Healer

    Planetary Governor: Moon

    House Association: 4th House of Hearth and Mythic Being

    Body Wisdom: Stomach, Breasts, Abdomen, Emotional Field.

    Spiritual Principle: Compassion “Love Without Conditions:

    Harmonious: Sensitive, Nurturing, Protective, Supportive, Tenacious, Traditional, Food & Family Oriented, Domestic, Empathic, Imaginative, Intuitive, Comfort-Oriented.

    Shadow: Crabby, Worried, Attached to Past, Protective, Irritable, Clinging, Dependent, Insecure, Clannish, Moody, Snobby, Fearful, Shy, Indulgent, Hysterical, Manipulative.

    Cancer is the archetype of protection, healing, nourishing, and the establishment of roots. Through sensitive attunement to emotion, imagination, and feeling Cancer sends healing energy to the world. Cancer symbolizes the mother who provides for the needs of others and who holds families together. Cancer’s outward mode of expression allows it to heal and nurture endlessly.

    People who have planets in Cancer gain that special ability that mother’s have of foresight, so easily impresses by feelings and emotional contours. They just know when people are in pain or suffering even when miles apart. Of the three water element signs Cancer is the activator and creator of imagination and the master at expressing emotion. They might be more traditional, but they are devoted deeply to those who they love and in the enlightened person, to all life.

    This archetype is about anchoring the heart in the living intuitive flow of love (LIFE) and opening the heart to the feeling dimension of human experience. When this happens, the heart is soothed and the soul is alive as people are empowered to accept and forgive each other. Cancer teaches that at the center of being is a temple of holy silence where you can commune with divinity. Find it and you will discover compassion for all living beings.

    Cancer and the Moon symbolize the establishment of a physical home as well as the spiritual hearth of our souls that I like to call the Well of Being. The 4th house or Nadir is the field of life experience that relates to this inner well that contains the underground river of ancestral memory. It links us to the traditions that have been handed down. Cancer governs emotional well being and healing.

    Our homes and families offer us a forgiving source of protection and nourishment. The home is a place that feeds the soul with hour upon hour of quiet reflection. It infuses us with a feeling of safety and emotional security. When we leave it, a psychic cord always connects us back to the place where we dream, and eat, and love. Homes contain chambers like the shell of a crab that we can live in and share life with others, inviting them to sit at our hearths and tables. Empathic Cancer inspires you to nurture, protect, heal, and open the heart in the field of life experience that it shines into in your chart.

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    http://www.cancerzodiacsign.net/cancer-archetype.htm

    Quote:The Cancer Archetype

    Character Type in Astrology


    Cancer sign (glyph).Cancer is the Zodiac sign of the benefactor, who cares for others even at great personal cost, devoting his or her life to the well-being of those closest, particularly the family. It's the Archetype of the Mother, who nurtures and protects the ones in her care.


        The painting above was made in 1663 by Elisabetta Sirani (1638-1665), who is one of the few women recorded in art history previous to the 19th century. The motif is a classic: Mother Mary and the infant Jesus. The Messiah to be in the loving care of his earthly mother. In Christian culture through the many centuries, this is the archetypical image of the mother.

        Without the motherly womb and her years of nurturing, none of us would be.

        Considering the many symbols of rich and deep meaning, there's no wonder this motif has been such a popular one. Below is another example, a painting by the most famous artists of them all: Leonardo da Vinci. This time the mother is doubled: also Mary's own mother St. Anne participates, by which the continuous chain of being is pointed out.

        Mankind emerges from the wombs of all those generations of mothers, the cycle of reproduction since the dawn of our species.

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    07-21-2016, 09:14 PM
    Thanking of Atlantis

    Date: 23 July, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: Atlantis is an indelible part of Earth's History; even though almost all physical traces of it have become indiscernable.  Who knows?  One day, we may be able to 'prove' it's existence, and the 'alternative history' that Ra (and folks like Graham Hancock propose - Fingerprints of the Gods - a great book) beomes the new norm.

    But until then, Atlantis (and all it's myths) are still the province of the 'kooky' and those that 'want to believe'.

    Atlantis had it's ups and downs.  The downs remembered more because of the severity of the tradgedies.

    But like I said, it's still part of the 'planetary root' of Mind, and until fully accepted, acknowledged, forgiven, and integrated, it will continue to work it's separative influence in consciousness - whether that be on a large, or individual scale.

    Some Wanderers may have been called to Atlantis.  Such experiences may have left punishing scars and traumas; some of which are still being worked through in current lives.

    But before one can balance something, one needs to accept it, as an objective fact.  And one can appreciate that Atlantis was one of the high points in terms of connected civilizations, even though, ultimately, it was perverted by the seeking of personal power.

    The first part of healing is in acknowledgement.  And this Meditation can acknowledge the existence and formative roots that Atlantis has left upon this planetary mind.

    Due Warning: this Meditation could conceivably trigger personal (traumatic) recalls of an Atlantean life.  If one suspects this could be an outcome, and doesn't desire it, then definitely give this one a Pass Smile

    Namaste.

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    21.28 Wrote:None of these became what you would name great as the greatness of Lemuria or Atlantis is known to you due to the formation of strong social complexes and in the case of Atlantis, very great technological understandings.

    10.15 Wrote:The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately three one oh oh oh, thirty-one thousand [31,000] years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately one five oh oh oh, fifteen thousand [15,000] of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative.

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    07-28-2016, 03:24 PM
    Thanking of Significant Relationships

    Date: 30 July, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: I really wanted to use the term 'Significant Other Relationships' in the title, but that term has such an established social convention, that I can't really use it in the literal sense - that is, for the people who are truly 'signficant' in our Lives.

    So let's just leave it as 'Significant Relationships'.

    Of course, first under that banner would be any partner-type pairings.  Whether that be marriage, de-facto, ongoing romantic 'unclassified', etc, etc.  Then we have our best friends, those in our family who we have a strong 'affinity' with, etc.

    So the bondings and the pairings which are truly meaningful to us.

    Even though universal love (4th ray) sees all with equal eyes, on a practical and experienced level, we do form associations and connections that are more tightly knit.  That's how we can best learn and support each other, on a very real level.

    From Ra:

    21.9 Wrote:Thus, the beginning entity is one in all innocence oriented towards animalistic behavior using other-selves only as extensions of self for the preservation of the all-self. The entity becomes slowly aware that it has needs, shall we say, that are not animalistic; that is, that are useless for survival. These needs include: the need for companionship, the need for laughter, the need for beauty, the need to know the universe about it. These are the beginning needs.

    As the incarnations begin to accumulate, further needs are discovered: the need to trade, the need to love, the need to be loved, the need to elevate animalistic behaviors to a more universal perspective.

    We all have Significant Relationships.  Let's acknowledge and value that during this Meditation.

    I'm sure our Loved Ones will appreciate that Smile

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    08-03-2016, 07:56 PM
    Thanking of Our Opportunities

    Date: 6 August, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: This is one of the more 'abstract' of Themes, and yet still most pertinent. The Ra quote I had in mind was this:

    Quote:8.1 Questioner: I have a question about [what] I call the advertising of the Confederation. It has to do with free will. There have been certain contacts allowed, as I understand, by the Council, but this is limited because of free will of those who are not oriented in such a way that they could maybe want contact. This material that we are doing now will be disseminated. Dissemination of this material will be dependent upon the wants of [a] relatively small number of people on the planet. Many people on the planet now want this material, but even though we disseminate it they will not be aware it is available. Is there any possibility of creating some effect which I would call advertising, or is this against the principle of free will?

    Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the path your life-experience complex has taken. Consider the coincidences and odd circumstances by which one thing flowed to the next. Consider this well.

    Each entity will receive the opportunity that each needs. This information source-beingness does not have uses in the life-experience complex of each of those among your peoples who seek.
    Thus the advertisement is general and not designed to indicate the searching out of any particular material, but only to suggest the noumenal aspect of the illusion.

    Don asked a specific question (which Ra eventually answered), but not before they set the framework within a 'wider context'.

    This is just worth re-iterating:

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    Consider, if you will, the path your life-experience complex has taken.

    Consider the coincidences and odd circumstances by which one thing flowed to the next.

    Consider this well.

    Each entity will receive the opportunity that each needs.

    This information source-beingness does not have uses in the life-experience complex of each of those among your peoples who seek.

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    and so most of us here have received the 'opportunity' of learning from this Material.  But we've also received *all* the opportunities that we've needed, to continue with our path and Journey.

    There can be an acknowledgement (and appreciation) of that.  Including the so-called 'missed guideposts'.

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    08-10-2016, 08:14 PM
    Thanking the Upward Spiralling Light

    Date: 13 August, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: If there's one thing fundamental to our Creation, then it's the presence/existence of the Upward Spiralling Light.

    A Definition:

    13.17 Wrote:Ra: The spiraling energy, which is the characteristic of what you call “light,” moves in straight line spiral thus giving spirals an inevitable vector upwards to a more comprehensive beingness with regards to intelligent infinity.

    Thus, first dimensional beingness strives towards the second-density lessons of a type of awareness which includes growth rather than dissolution or random change.

    and

    59.11 Wrote:The term “upward spiraling light” is an indication, not of your up and down concept, but an indication of the concept of that which reaches towards the source of love and light.

    and it's draw towards self-realisation:

    Quote:73.8 Questioner: Then will you speak of the difference between the spiraling light that enters through the feet and the light invoked through the crown chakra?

    Ra: I am Ra. The action of the upward spiraling light drawn by the will to meet the inner light of the One Infinite Creator may be likened to the beating of the heart and the movement of the muscles surrounding the lungs and all the other functions of the parasympathetic nervous system. The calling of the adept may be likened to those nerve and muscle actions over which the mind/body/spirit complex has conscious control.

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    08-17-2016, 02:20 AM
    Thanking our Food

    Date: 20 August, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: ... because we actually have enough to eat each day.  Which is not always the case around the world.

    42.7 Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body. You may extrapolate from this.

    On the other hand, however, you are correct in your assumption that the green ray response is not as refined as that which has been imbued with wisdom. This wisdom enables the entity to appreciate its contributions to the planetary consciousness by the quality of its being without regard to activity or behavior which expects results upon visible planes.

    Namaste.

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    08-26-2016, 05:29 AM
    Thanking the Moon Archetype

    Date: 27 August, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: first we have the card, as thus:

    [Image: uwhjZ83.jpg]

    and some of Ra's thoughts on it:

    Quote:80.15 Questioner: Now, the obvious only significant difference, I believe, between the positive and negative adept in using this shuttle is the way they had polarized. Is there a relationship between the archetypes of the spirit and whether the polarization is either positive or negative? Is, for instance, the positive calling through the sixteenth and the [chuckling] negative calling through the fifteenth archetype? I am very confused on these points and I imagine that question is poor or meaningless. Can you answer that?

    Ra: I am Ra. It is a challenge to answer such a query, for there is some confusion in its construction. However, we shall attempt to speak upon the subject.

    The adept, whether positive or negative, has the same Matrix. The Potentiator is also identical. Due to the Catalyst of each adept the adept may begin to pick and choose that into which it shall look further.

    The Experience of the Spirit, that which you have called the Moon, is then, by far, the more manifest of influences upon the polarity of the adept. Even the most unhappy of experiences, shall we say, which seem to occur in the Catalyst of the adept, seen from the viewpoint of the spirit, may, with the discrimination possible in shadow, be worked with until light equaling the light of brightest noon descends upon the adept and positive or service-to-others illumination has occurred.

    The service-to-self adept will satisfy itself with the shadows and, grasping the light of day, will toss back the head in grim laughter, preferring the darkness.

    and

    Quote:80.8 Questioner: I am sorry for my lack of penetration of these mechanisms and I apologize for some rather stupid questions, but I think we have here a point that is somewhat central to what we are presently attempting to understand, so even though my next questions may be almost unacceptably stupid, I will attempt to try to understand what this power that our visitor seeks is and how he uses it. For it seems to me that this is central to the mind and the evolution of it in which we are involved.

    As this entity that is our visitor increases his power through these works, what is the power that he increases? Can you describe it?

    Ra: I am Ra. The power of which you speak is a spiritual power. The powers of the mind, as such, do not encompass such works as these. You may, with some fruitfulness, consider the possibilities of moonlight. You are aware that we have described the Matrix of the Spirit as a night. The moonlight, then, offers either a true picture seen in shadow or chimera and falsity. The power of falsity is deep as is the power to discern truth from shadow. The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is stored the power of the One Infinite Creator.

    The adept, then, is working with the power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true. To embrace falsity, to know it, to seek it, and to use it gives a power that is most great. This is the nature of the power of your visitor and may shed some light upon the power of one who seeks in order to serve others as well, for the missteps in the night are oh! so easy.

    Namaste once more.

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    08-30-2016, 12:37 AM
    Thanking our Sub-Logos, the Sun.

    Date: 3 September, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    JaneC will be heading up this Week's Meditation.

    She kindly provided the following writeup and Theme.


    Theme: As I am sure many of us do, I have always had a great love of the sun. Whenever it's sunny I have a compulsion to be outside.  

    The sun has many healing benefits and also provides us with essential vitamin D. The ancient Greeks used sunlight therapy which was called heliosis. Today, the name for sunlight therapy is heliotherapy.

    Atapa Snana is the yogic phrase for the healing science of sunbathing.

    Quote:41.4 Questioner: In trying to build an understanding from the start, you might say, starting with intelligent infinity and getting to our present condition of being, I am having some difficulty, but I think I should go back and investigate our sun since it is the sub-Logos that creates all that we experience in this particular planetary system.

    Will you give me a description of the sun, of our sun?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is a query which is not easily answered in your language, for the sun has various aspects in relation to intelligent infinity, to intelligent energy, and to each density of each planet, as you call these spheres. Moreover, these differences extend into the metaphysical or time/space part of your creation.

    In relationship to intelligent infinity, the sun body is, equally with all parts of the infinite creation, part of that infinity.

    In relation to the potentiated intelligent infinity which makes use of intelligent energy, it is the offspring, shall we say, of the Logos for a much larger number of sub-Logoi. The relationship is hierarchical in that the sub-Logos uses the intelligent energy in ways set forth by the Logos and uses its free will to co-create the, shall we say, full nuances of your densities as you experience them.

    In relationship to the densities, the sun body may physically, as you would say, be seen to be a large body of gaseous elements undergoing the processes of fusion and radiating heat and light.

    Metaphysically, the sun achieves a meaning to fourth through seventh density according to the growing abilities of entities in these densities to grasp the living creation and co-entity, or other-self, nature of this sun body. Thus by the sixth density the sun may be visited and inhabited by those dwelling in time/space and may even be partially created from moment to moment by the processes of sixth-density entities in their evolution.

    It provides light, energy, and warmth and is essential for our existence.

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    Namaste.

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    09-08-2016, 08:19 PM
    Thanking the Magician Archetype

    Date: 10 September, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: We'll be offering some appreciation and understanding for Archetype 1 this Week.  The Magician.

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    Quote:91.33 Questioner: And finally, the Magician represents the conscious mind. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. We ask the student to consider the concept of the unfed conscious mind, the mind without any resource but consciousness.

    Do not confuse the unfed conscious mind with that mass of complexities which you as students experience
    , as you have so many, many times dipped already into the processes of potentiation, catalyst, experience, and transformation.

    The Matrix of the Mind

    Quote:We now address your query as to the archetype which is the Matrix of the Mind.

    As to its name, the name of Magician is understandable when you consider that consciousness is the great foundation, mystery, and revelation which makes this particular density possible.

    The self-conscious entity is full of the magic of that which is to come. It may be considered first, for the mind is the first of the complexes to be developed by the student of spiritual evolution.

    The Will

    Quote:The Magician was named as a significant archetype. However, it was not recognized that this portion of the archetypical mind represents not a portion of the deep subconscious but the conscious mind and more especially the will. The archetype called by some the High Priestess, then, is the corresponding intuitive or subconscious faculty.

    See you there!  Smile
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    09-16-2016, 10:30 AM
    Thanking of the Body Complex

    Date: 17 September, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: we'll use this quote as a springboard for this week's Group Meditation.

    "61.6 Questioner: I want to ask a few questions Jim had here about the healing exercises. The first is, in the healing exercise concerning the body, what do you mean by the disciplines of the body having to do with the balance between love and wisdom in the use of the body in its natural functions?

    Ra: I am Ra. We shall speak more briefly than usual due to this instrument’s use of the transferred energy. We, therefore, request further queries if our reply is not sufficient.

    The body complex has natural functions. Many of these have to do with the unmanifested self and are normally not subject to the need for balancing.

    There are natural functions which have to do with other-self. Among these are touching, loving, the sexual life, and those times when the company of another is craved to combat the type of loneliness which is the natural function of the body as opposed to those types of loneliness which are of the mind/emotion complex or of the spirit.

    When these natural functions may be observed in the daily life they may be examined in order that the love of self and love of other-self versus the wisdom regarding the use of natural functions may be observed. There are many fantasies and stray thoughts which may be examined in most of your peoples in this balancing process.

    Equally to be balanced is the withdrawal from the need for these natural functions with regard to other-self. On the one hand there is an excess of love. It must be determined whether this is love of self or other-self or both. On the other hand there is an over-balance towards wisdom.

    It is well to know the body complex so that it is an ally, balanced and ready to be clearly used as a tool, for each bodily function may be used in higher and higher, if you will, complexes of energy with other-self. No matter what the behavior, the important balancing is the understanding of each interaction on this level with other-selves so that whether the balance may be love/wisdom or wisdom/love, the other-self is seen by the self in a balanced configuration and the self is thus freed for further work."

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    09-20-2016, 07:03 PM
    Thanking of the Social Complex

    Date: 24 September, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: Being incarnate is a difficult thing to navigate.  There are many things to take into consideration, and there may be many contrary expectations when it comes to potential interactions.  And yet, it also the field and space of service, and is what we can here to be part of (and influence).

    This long answer from Ra touches upon many of these delicate aspects.  But in this meditation, it's more about acknowledging the implicit potential of the social complex, of which we have become an intimate part of.

    Namaste.

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. As one proceeds from the primal distortion of free will, one proceeds to the understanding of the focal points of intelligent energy which have created the intelligences or the ways of a particular mind/body/spirit complex in its environment, both what you would call natural and what you would call man-made. Thus, the distortions to be avoided are those which do not take into consideration the distortions of the focus of energy of love/light, or shall we say, the Logos of this particular sphere or density. These include the lack of understanding of the needs of the natural environment, the needs of other-selves’ mind/body/spirit complexes. These are many due to the various distortions of man-made complexes in which the intelligence and awareness of entities themselves have chosen a way of using the energies available.

    Thus, what would be an improper distortion with one entity is proper with another. We can suggest an attempt to become aware of the other-self as self and thus do that action which is needed by other-self, understanding from the other-self’s intelligence and awareness. In many cases this does not involve the breaking of the distortion of free will into a distortion or fragmentation called infringement. However, it is a delicate matter to be of service, and compassion, sensitivity, and an ability to empathize are helpful in avoiding the distortions of man-made intelligence and awareness.

    The area or arena called the societal complex is an arena in which there are no particular needs for care for it is the prerogative/honor/duty of those in the particular planetary sphere to act according to its free will for the attempted aid of the social complex.

    Thus, you have two simple directives: awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in nature, awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in self to be shared, when it seems appropriate, by the entity with the social complex, and you have one infinitely subtle and various set of distortions of which you may be aware; that is, distortions with respect to self and other-selves not concerning free will but concerning harmonious relationships and service to others as other-selves would most benefit.
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    09-28-2016, 01:21 PM
    Thanking of the Use of the Will

    Date: 1 October, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11:59pm Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme:  We all have various understandings of what the 'Will' is.  But regardless of personal interpretations, we all acknowledge it as a faculty and a means.

    Some express it more (the Will), and others, less, but it's implicit potential is not in question.

    A couple of quotes:

    52.7 Wrote:Instead, we appreciate and recommend the use of your second verb in regard to the use of the will.

    Acceptance of self, forgiveness of self, and the direction of the will; this is the path towards the disciplined personality. Your faculty of will is that which is powerful within you as co-Creator. You cannot ascribe to this faculty too much importance. Thus it must be carefully used and directed in service to others for those upon the positively oriented path.

    There is great danger in the use of the will as the personality becomes stronger, for it may be used even subconsciously in ways reducing the polarity of the entity.

    and a Q&A in the context of the Creation, and how things ended up being 'varied'.  The Question is about the effiency of learning:

    Quote:28.14 Questioner: Is there any reason for some portions being much more efficient in learning?

    Ra: I am Ra. Is there any reason for some to learn more quickly than others?

    Look, if you wish, to the function of the will … the, shall we say, attraction to the upward spiraling line of light.

    Look forward to seeing you there.

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    10-06-2016, 06:58 PM
    Thanking of the Ra Contact

    Date: 8 October, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 1am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: I will go out on a limb and say that the Ra Material has profoundly impacted most of us here; and that it has led to a kind of recognition that has truly reconfigured our Lives.  Not in the sense of Doctrine; but in the sense of deep principles which just ring true, and resonate with core parts of our Beingness, the deepest parts of ourselves.

    And yet, the Ra Contact didn't happen in a vacuum.  It involved 3 individuals, with quite different characteristics, but which harmoniously blended into a Love/Wisdom/Power combo.  It also involved an unseen group of entities, of which revealed their nature and compassion through the kind of interaction that they had.

    This, in short, was the Ra Contact.

    I think this is the first Meditation with this as it's Intention; in offering a kind of acknowledgement and appreciation.  It's taken a year, but we finally got here!

    A couple of choice, and moving thoughts.

    Quote:37.3 Questioner: Will you comment on it?

    Ra: I am Ra. We shall.

    Firstly, the choosing of this group to do some work to serve others was of an intensive nature.

    Each present sacrificed much for no tangible result.

    Each may search its heart for the type of sacrifice, knowing that the material sacrifices are the least; the intensive commitment to blending into an harmonious group at the apex of sacrifice.


    Under these conditions we found your vibration. We observed your vibration. It will not be seen often. We do not wish to puff up the pride, but we shall not chaffer with the circumstances necessary for our particular contact.

    Thus you have received and we willingly undertake the honor/duty of continuing to offer transmissions of concepts which are, to the best of our abilities, precise in nature and grounded in the attempt to unify many of those things that concern you.

    and the infamous 'color chip' quote:

    Quote:71.21 Questioner: When you say you searched for this group what do you mean? What was your process of search? I ask this question to understand more the illusion of time and space.

    Ra: I am Ra. Consider the process of one who sees the spectrograph of some complex of elements. It is a complex paint sample, let us say for ease of description.

    We of Ra knew the needed elements for communication which had any chance of enduring.

    We compared our color chip to many individuals and groups over a long span of your time. Your spectrograph matches our sample.

    In response to your desire to see the relationship betwixt space/time and time/space, may we say that we conducted this search in time/space, for in this illusion one may quite readily see entities as vibratory complexes and groups as harmonics within vibratory complexes.

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    ps, Daylight Savings kicked in last Sunday for Australia; it will also be ending in the Northern Hemisphere towards the end of this month.  If you have any doubts, check this webpage and compare it to New York time (10am Saturday) to get your appropriate time.

    https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

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    See you there!

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    10-14-2016, 09:46 AM
    Thanking of the Other Self

    Date: 15 October, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 1am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme:  What the heck is the other self for?  Are they just here to annoy us with their loud music, and silly talk?  Or is there something deeper, more valuable about these entities that come in and out of our lives, some more deeply than others?

    I would say that the other-self is the most valuable thing in life.  It may seem cliched, but everything else is just a setting and a convenience by which we can experience the other-self to varying degrees; whether it be in friendships, various relationships, discussions, sharing meals, or even chatroom meditations.

    The other-self is both how we learn, as well seeing what we've learned (or not learnt).

    So this Meditation will be about an appreciation and an acknowledgement of the other-self; both in the general, as well as the specific.

    As Ra offered:

    19.13 Wrote:Thus, the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call it, was designed to distort entities towards a predisposition to deal with each other. Thus, the lessons which approach a knowing of love can be begun.

    This catalyst then is shared between peoples as an important part of each self’s development as well as the experiences of the self in solitude and the synthesis of all experience through meditation.

    The quickest way to learn is to deal with other-selves. This is a much greater catalyst than dealing with the self. Dealing with the self without other-selves is akin to living without what you would call mirrors. Thus, the self cannot see the fruits of its beingness. Thus, each may aid each by reflection.

    This is also a primary reason for the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call the physical complex.

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    10-21-2016, 08:07 AM
    Thanking the Hanged Man Archetype

    Date: 22 October, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 1am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme:  This is Card 12 of the Major Arcana, also known as the Significator of the Body.  It is especially rich in symbolism.

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    If I'm not mistaken, there are no direct Ra quotes on this Archetype.  So we'll just have to tune into this Archetype directly - both via the image given, as well as the underlying principle of what it represents; that is, the Significator of the Body.

    See you there Smile

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    10-27-2016, 05:27 PM
    Thanking the Council of Saturn

    Date: 29 October, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 1am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: so who the heck is running this asylum anyway?  Is there anyone in charge?

    If Ra is to be taken on face value, and it's very much an act of faith, there is something called the 'Council of Saturn' which is responsible for running the affairs in this solar system of ours.  It's very much a leap of faith, as we can't go and see these folks, and verify them with our eyes and by talking to them.  So for some, it may be a weak proxy for god-like entities, and a kind of wish fulfillment.  So discernment and understanding have to be kept at the forefront when investigating metaphysical type claims like this.

    But most of us will 'vibe' with the rest of the Ra Contact, and an overall assessment gives credence to this particular Source.  But it always has to be kept in mind that some things can be personally verified (energy centers, archetypes, balancing, mirroring), and other things are more claims (alternative earth history, Wanderers, higher densities).  The Council of Saturn, for most people, falls into the latter category, as I think it's a rarer case that earth entities have contact with these folks.

    But here's a few background pieces of info about this Mysterious Oversight Group.

    Quote:7.8 Questioner: At what point would this calling be enough for you to openly come among the people on Earth? How many entities on Earth would have to call the Confederation?

    Ra: I am Ra. We do not calculate the possibility of coming among your peoples by the numbers of calling, but by a consensus among an entire societal-memory complex which has become aware of the infinite consciousness of all things. This has been possible among your peoples only in isolated instances.

    In the case wherein a social memory complex which is servant of the Creator sees this situation and has an idea for the appropriate aid which can only be done among your peoples, the social memory complex desiring this project lays it before the Council of Saturn. If it is approved, quarantine is lifted.

    Quote:9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

    Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

    This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

    Quote:6.8 Questioner: Where is this Council located?

    Ra: This Council is located in the octave, or eight[h] dimension, of the planet Saturn, taking its place in an area which you understand in third-dimensional terms as the rings.

    Quote:7.9 Questioner: I have a question here, I believe, about that Council from Jim. Who are the members, and how does the Council function?

    Ra: I am Ra. The members of the Council are representatives from the Confederation and from those vibratory levels of your inner planes bearing responsibility for your third density. The names are not important because there are no names. Your mind/body/spirit complexes request names and so, in many cases, the vibratory sound complexes which are consonant with the vibratory distortions of each entity are used. However, the name concept is not part of the Council. If names are requested, we will attempt them. However, not all have chosen names.

    In number, the Council that sits in constant session, though varying in its members by means of balancing, which takes place, what you would call irregularly, is nine. That is the Session Council. To back up this Council, there are twenty-four entities which offer their services as requested. These entities faithfully watch and have been called the Guardians.

    The Council operates by means of, what you would call, telepathic contact with the oneness or unity of the nine, the distortions blending harmoniously so that the Law of One prevails with ease. When a need for thought is present, the Council retains the distortion-complex of this need, balancing it as described, and then recommends what it considers as appropriate action. This includes: One, the duty of admitting social memory complexes to the Confederation; Two, offering aid to those who are unsure how to aid the social memory complex requesting aid in a way consonant with both the call, the Law, and the number of those calling (that is to say, sometimes the resistance of the call); Three, internal questions in the Council are determined.

    These are the prominent duties of the Council. They are, if in any doubt, able to contact the twenty-four who then offer consensus/judgment/thinking to the Council. The Council then may reconsider any question.

    7.10 Questioner: Is the Council of Nine the same nine that was mentioned in this book? [Questioner gestures to Uri.]

    Ra: I am Ra. The Council of Nine has been retained in semi-undistorted form by two main sources, that known in your naming, as Mark and that known in your naming as Henry. In one case, the channel became the scribe. In the other, the channel was not the scribe. However, without the aid of the scribe, the energy would not have come to the channel.

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    11-04-2016, 11:00 AM
    Thanking of the Green Ray Photon

    Date: 5 November, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 2PM London, 1am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: I'll just let Ra speak to the changing vibratory environment in which Earth has found itself since the mid-1930's, and which has become even more intense and acute through the years we have been living through.

    Quote:40.9 Questioner: Has the vibration of the basic, of the photon, of all our particles increased in frequency already?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is this influence which has begun to cause thoughts to become things. As an example you may observe the thoughts of anger becoming those cells of the physical bodily complex going out of control to become what you call the cancer.

    Quote:40.10 Questioner: What, assuming that we are, our vibration— I am assuming this vibration started increasing about between twenty and thirty years ago. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. The first harbingers of this were approximately forty-five of your years ago, the energies vibrating more intensely through the forty-year period preceding the final movement of vibratory matter, shall we say, through the quantum leap, as you would call it.

    Quote:40.11 Questioner: Starting then, forty-five years ago, and taking the entire increase in vibration that we will experience in this density change, approximately what percentage of the way through this increase of vibration are we right now?

    Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory nature of your environment is true color, green. This is at this time heavily over-woven with the orange ray of planetary consciousness. However, the nature of quanta is such that the movement over the boundary is that of discrete placement of vibratory level.

    Quote:40.12 Questioner: You mentioned that thoughts of anger now are causing cancer. Can you expand on this mechanism as it acts as a catalyst or its complete purpose?

    Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is one of revealed information. Selves are not hidden to self or other-selves. The imbalances or distortions which are of a destructive nature show, therefore, in more obvious ways, the vehicle of the mind/body/spirit complex thus acting as a teaching resource for self revelation. These illnesses such as cancer are correspondingly very amenable to self-healing once the mechanism of the destructive influence has been grasped by the individual.


    See you there! (in true color green space)

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    11-11-2016, 04:10 AM
    Thanking of Green Ray Love

    Date: 12 November, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 2am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: Obviously the events of this last week have shaken people up a bit.  There's definitely the sense that the game has changed in nature, quite substantially.  Whether that turns out to be the case or not, only unfolding events will tell.

    But whether or not who holds the political puppet strings, the nature of green ray universal love is something that can have a penetrating effect in all cases.  In fact, it's the one transformative quality that everyone has access to, and cannot be deprived of, no matter the outward circumstances.

    So things may get worse; they may stay exactly the same.  They may even get better.  Who can truly forecast?

    But here's just a momento and reminder that it's the inner radiance of positive entities which is the one thing which changes things in a lasting way.

    Quote:34.9 Questioner: Thank you. Would you give me the same type of information about the self in relation to the societal self?

    Ra: I am Ra. The unmanifested self may find its lessons those which develop any of the energy influx centers of the mind/body/spirit complex. The societal and self interactions most often concentrate upon the second and third energy centers. Thus those most active in attempting to remake or alter the society are those working from feelings of being correct personally or of having answers which will put power in a more correct configuration. This may be seen to be of a full travel from negative to positive in orientation. Either will activate these energy ray centers.

    There are some few whose desires to aid society are of a green-ray nature or above.

    These entities, however, are few due to the understanding, may we say, of fourth ray that universal love freely given is more to be desired than principalities or even the rearrangement of peoples or political structures.

    We can make a difference; in our own way,

    Namaste.
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    11-18-2016, 05:20 PM
    Thanking the Roots of Mind

    Date: 19 November, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 2am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: This should be an interesting Meditation this Week.  On the 'roots of mind'.  Somewhat nebulous, and inexact, but I think we all grasp that our 'minds' are subject to quite various influences, and that our 'personal mind' is only just a starting point when investigating the various 'territories' in which we may wander.

    We can definitely go 'deeper'.

    30.2 Wrote:The mind is a complex which reflects the inpourings of the spirit and the up-pourings of the body complex. It contains what you know as feelings, emotions, and intellectual thoughts in its more conscious complexities.

    Moving further down the tree of mind we see the intuition which is of the nature of the mind more in contact or in tune with the total beingness complex.

    Moving down to the roots of mind we find the progression of consciousness which gradually turns from the personal to the racial memory, to the cosmic influxes, and thus becomes a direct contactor of that shuttle which we call the spirit complex.

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    see you there!

    Plenum

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    11-24-2016, 06:02 PM
    Thanking of the Alchemist Archetype

    Date: 26 November, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11PM Beijing, 2am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: The Alchemist is card 14 in Ra's ordering of the Archetypes.  It is also one of the 'body archetypes', and sits at the top of the sequence; being the Great Way of the Body.

    What the heck does that even mean?  

    Probably too hard to get into detail here.  Here's a quote to read, to inform ourselves from the Source, and not some human typist:

    Quote:81.14 Questioner: And finally, the fourteenth, the Way of the Body is called the Alchemist because there is an infinity of time for the various bodies to operate within to learn the lessons necessary for evolution. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is less than completely correct as the Great Way of the Body must be seen, as are all the archetypes of the body, to be a mirror image of the thrust of the activity of the mind.

    The body is the creature of the mind and is the instrument of manifestation for the fruits of mind and spirit.

    Therefore, you may see the body as providing the athanor through which the alchemist manifests gold.

    ooooh.  That last line is nice.

    "the athanor through which the alchemist manifests gold'.  

    Anyway, here's an image of an athanor.

    [Image: n0Xwo8Z.jpg]

    it's like an oven/furnacy-thingy, to do things that is now in the domain of modern chemistry.

    But that's getting away from things.  We are interested in the metaphysical archetype, the energy which pervades this particular expression.  We can tap into it, and experience it, without fully understanding it in reasoned consciousness.  After all, it's only after you experience the taste of a 'lemon', that you can then compare and contrast it using the logical faculties.  The experience always comes first; the analysis later.

    Here are 2 images; one in old fashioned black and white; the newer with a dash of color.

    [Image: ShMJNxN.jpg]

    [Image: j7zBFDG.jpg]

    although it looks like that dude has been dying himself in the athanor to get his skin to look so swish.

    Tongue

    Namaste.
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    12-01-2016, 08:20 PM (This post was last modified: 12-01-2016, 08:22 PM by Plenum. Edit Reason: spelling )
    Thanking the Great Gateway

    Date: 3 December, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11PM Beijing, 2am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: The 'great gateway' that I'm referring to is the indigo ray.  Or what is commonly known as the third eye center.

    Both positive and negative seekers are desirous of a more profound experience of their reality, a more intimate and direct experience of Reality.  The great gateway facilitates this.

    The truly 'aware' or what we know of as 'enlightened', have this gateway permanently opened.  For the rest of us, it comes and goes, with peak experiences, when we feel a true unity with other selves.  More than just the empathy and compassion of the heart - although this is the base - but the Creator as Creator.  The true sense of 'I am you, and you are me".

    49.2 Wrote:Ra: The experiences described and experienced are those distillations which may be experienced after a concentration of effort upon the opening of the gateway, or indigo, mind complex so that experience of a sacramental, or violet, ray may occur. These experiences are the beginnings of that which, as the body, the mind, and the spirit become integrated at the gateway, or indigo, level, may then yield not only the experience of joy but the comprehension of intelligent infinity which accompanies it.

    Quote:29.29 Questioner: Is it possible for you to tell me how a crystal is used by an entity who has satisfactorily achieved necessary violet-ray qualification, I will say; how it is possible for the entity to use the crystal or how he should use the crystal?

    Ra: I am Ra. The gateway to intelligent infinity is born of, shall we say, the sympathetic vibration in balanced state accompanying the will to serve, the will to seek.

    Quote:54.32 Questioner: What if a mind/body/spirit complex feels a feeling in meditation at the indigo center, what is he feeling?

    Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working.

    One who feels this activation is one experiencing instreamings at that energy center to be used either for the unblocking of this center, for its tuning to match the harmonics of its other energy centers, or to activate the gateway to intelligent infinity.

    See you there Smile

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    12-07-2016, 11:14 PM
    Thanking of Ra (in the 5th Dimension)

    Date: 10 December, Saturday
    Time: 10AM EST, 3PM London, 11PM Beijing, 2am (following day) Sydney
    Location: Chatroom 2 - the Lounge

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    Theme: I'm not sure exactly what this passage means, but regardless, Ra is in our '5th dimension', helping, waiting, and assisting in these Harvest times.

    The full passage is here: 14.4

    and the selected portion is:

    Ra Wrote:Therefore, this was not pursued further. There was a landing approximately three oh oh oh, three thousand [3,000], of your years ago also in your South America, as you call it. There were a few attempts to aid your peoples approximately two three oh oh [2,300] years ago, this in the area of Egypt.

    The remaining part of the cycle, we have never been gone from your fifth dimension and have been working in this last minor cycle to prepare for harvest.

    I'm sure they are listening BigSmile
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