Under attack... in desperate need of help...

[Manjushri]

You say you need help/advice from people here but then when offered you reject because you don't want to "plug in" to any other way of thinking than your current psychotic state. Enjoy your psychosis. I miss it and am slightly envious. It won't last forever I promise. You will come down or die - your choice.

[ada]

You say you need help/advice from people here but then when offered you reject because you don't want to "plug in" to any other way of thinking than your current psychotic state. Enjoy your psychosis. I miss it and am slightly envious. It won't last forever I promise. You will come down or die - your choice.

You aren't being open minded.

[Manjushri]

youre right. I am sure the topic creator was gang raped and contacted by evil angels because he is SO GOOD at meditation and SO clairvoyant.

[Spaced]

What does invalidating them accomplish?

[Manjushri]

Relief of the emergency workers who take false reports from people like this? Relief from people who try to offer help and are shot down immediately by yet another spiritual know-it-all who comes here to tell us how It is?

[Spaced]

Ah I see. I would suggest in the future not being so attached to having people accept your views and accept that they may have their own.

[Manjushri]

Ah I see. Perhaps then he should not ask to have them validated.

He says HELP ME

I say here's my thoughts

He says I HAVE READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND ITS NOT FOR ME

He says that to everyone. How can one like that be helped? Posting his psychotic delusions for all to see just brings out concern for fellow human who is suffering. But because I don't suggest that he is psychotic in a gentle and loving manner like another poster did, I am the bad guy.

[Spaced]

Interesting psychodrama you've set up for yourself here. I appreciate and commend your desire to help the OP and I don't think you are bad guy. I do feel that the post calling Mahakali out as psychotic and delusional came from a place of confusion but I don't judge, I spend much of my life in a pretty confused state.

Anyhow I have no desire to get into this with you. I personally defer to Mahakali's ability to walk their own path, which ever path they may choose.

[Manjushri]

I also defer to his desire and right to do so. From my experience people followings thoughts like that end up dying in shoot outs with themselves or police. Someone dying because they follow negative and confused thoughts about the Law of One is something that does not sit well with me , and that is why I felt the need to post my thoughts when he rejected my help.

Sorry for the psychodrama and thanks for calling it out to everyone in such a non judgmental way!

[Mahakali]

From what I understand, astrology does not have a universal effect, and its effects are created by one's belief in it, as with any belief system. I don't want a fatalistic system exerting random effects on me when they could be eliminated or at least minimalized by not engaging in such a system. I don't claim to "know it all", but I do think I have a right to not put something in my astral body if I don't find it useful.

Engaging in astrology causes one's life patterns and karmas to be subject to a particular set of movements, which is limiting and not liberating. I do find, for the most part, my studies of Hinduism to be extremely useful.

Why should all of your thoughts be for me? That sounds just a little bit arrogant, don't you think?


EDIT: At any rate if you want some psychosis back - psychosis being rejection of the consensus reality - then nothing is stopping you. Question your beliefs. Realize that you are trusting brain chemicals to tell you that they are brain chemicals, and an astral vehicle to tell you that you are an astral vehicle, and you don't know anything for certain no matter how real it seems. I may not know much about astrology, but I specialize in being crazy. If you are so jealous of my mental state, I'd be glad to give you lessons.

One of the most beautiful things about insanity is that it is accessible from anywhere! =D

Please do correct any misunderstandings I had in regard to the Law of One. Such instruction would be more helpful than butthurt and insults.

[ada]

Now it actually sounds like you don't need any help from us, why the topic?

[Glow]

a bunch of stuff

.....

Also, I'm going to throw some papers around my room just to spite you.

[/quote]


That was one of the funniest things I've read. Did not see that coming. Thanks for that.

I'm not sure I have any useful advice for you but I will say psychic vulnerability is a matter of will.
It's hard to harness will without being able to centre unfortunately.

Is it possible you could locate someone to teach you how to clear your mind. Meditation? Being with a good strong meditator can help influence your own energy so you can easier become centered in yourself. I spent 2 dates meditating with someone who was very skilled and after that I can fall into a meditative state at will. After that you can simply banish energies.

My house used to be a very active spot for spirits, even living beings could project into the house. (Verified by another person)

After learning to balance conviction was all it took to keep my space free of outside energies.

I have no comment on other aspects, but I bet if you put in the work to meditate and find balance it will all fall into place for you. Be well.

[Patrick]

If you don't like your current game anymore, then choose another one.

...you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things...

[Reaper]

Mahakali, just on a hunch, I'm going to ask a few weird questions.

1. Do you have instances of missing time or what seems like distorted or missing memory in your life, especially during childhood?
2. Do you have strange memories of flashing lights or bizarre images and sounds?
3. Have unexplained wounds ever appeared on your body, especially after sleeping or an instance of memory loss?
4. Do you constantly squint your left eye?
5. Are you unusually prone to trance states, especially when in certain places, around certain people, or when exposed to certain objects or sounds? (Do you "zone out" frequently?)

[Mahakali]

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. No.
5. No.

Though I was implanted with some kind of etheric device that's supposedly used for mind control through flashing lights, within the past year, and I have not given anybody a chance to use it against me.

These things were implanted through trauma, but relatively recently, at least for the worst of them. I spent a lot of time in mental hospitals when I was younger, where I contracted some of these devices as well, including a mild form of MPD, and a wide variety of sexual perversion implants before that when I was 10-12. However, I've not been involved in actual SRA or anything like that, if that's what you're asking. I have control over my alters and can call them at will; the only one that was extremely difficult to control was a spider, but I've since learned how to turn that one on and off at will, when it used to pretty much have root access to my consciousness.

[rva_jeremy]

I appreciate that you were open in simply rejecting my advice, Mahakali. Glad it didn't hang you up.

I do see this conversation becoming a bit toxic… advice that comes with expectations is not "freely given," as they say.

[Stranger]

[Reaper]

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. No.
5. No.

Though I was implanted with some kind of etheric device that's supposedly used for mind control through flashing lights, within the past year, and I have not given anybody a chance to use it against me.

These things were implanted through trauma, but relatively recently, at least for the worst of them. I spent a lot of time in mental hospitals when I was younger, where I contracted some of these devices as well, including a mild form of MPD, and a wide variety of sexual perversion implants before that when I was 10-12. However, I've not been involved in actual SRA or anything like that, if that's what you're asking. I have control over my alters and can call them at will; the only one that was extremely difficult to control was a spider, but I've since learned how to turn that one on and off at will, when it used to pretty much have root access to my consciousness.

I figured it was something of that nature, though I'm glad you didn't get the deluxe package. Compared to what I've seen in some people exposed to that rubbish, you are incredibly lucid and together. For what it's worth, I don't think you're psychotic at all. I wish there was more I could say to help.

[ada]

People are trying to help yet you act superior denying everything with a slap. What do you seek then? Attention?
I'm sorry that this sounds a bit rude, but it's basically what you've been doing along with showing how 'mighty' you are controlling the unknown.
But what do we know, right!

[Manjushri]

People suffering from delusions do not wish to be swayed from them

[Stranger]

Manjushri, why do you wish to sway others from their delusions, or allow yourself to be made unhappy when they choose not to be thus swayed?

3D appears to have been intentionally created to permit and even encourage astounding depths of distortion of the truth to be held as sincere beliefs. Being infinitely less wise than the Creator, I personally do not feel it is productive or beneficial, ever, to attempt to pry cherished beliefs from the hands of others by force -- however distorted they might appear to ourselves. What are your thoughts on this?

[Manjushri]

I care not if he relishes in his delusions but he asked for help. My opinion is he will die if he continues following them.

[Mahakali]

People are trying to help yet you act superior denying everything with a slap. What do you seek then? Attention?
I'm sorry that this sounds a bit rude, but it's basically what you've been doing along with showing how 'mighty' you are controlling the unknown.
But what do we know, right!

I seek practical advice. I won't accept anything that feels wrong to me, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Things like astrology are not a part of my personal path, and I've had more experience with masochism than I need. My path and goals are very specific and oriented in a particular direction, so anything that tries to pull me off that path, even it it's otherwise sound advice, is not of concern to me; that's all.

What I really need is advice on removal of the astral implants and a better understanding on the operation of Stargates. Magick, I think, has more to do with not giving a f*** than anything, so I'm just looking for something that resonates with me. But there must be methods that work.

I'm pretty sure the only person I was rude to was a person who was very rude to me first (both posts in question have been removed by mods).

If you have advice, please, don't hesitate to tell me.

I care not if he relishes in his delusions but he asked for help. My opinion is he will die if he continues following them.

As a great kid once said, "It's not denial. I'm just selective about the reality I accept."

There is no truth. You can't prove anything. As far as I can tell, faith and willpower are what creates reality.

My ultimate goal is to attain total liberation, and I'll risk whatever I have to risk to achieve it. I'm not afraid of Death, at any rate; just the end of this dream and the start of another. This one has been bad, and I won't end it prematurely, but I'm not terribly upset to see it go if that be the case. My username was not arbitrarily chosen. I do appreciate the concern.

If you would like to raise a specific concern with me, again, I'll be glad to read and consider. I hope we can move forward without the rudeness and insults. If not, let's go our separate ways, please.

[Minyatur]

You do realize that you seek liberation from yourself? And that your struggle is one of a duality between your conscious and unconscious desires.

You are right that faith and willpower is what creates reality, but your existence already is a manifestation of your higher desires of existing within the system you are part of. You can theorically break free from them but your own free will to experience what you experience already is what holds things in place.

[Stranger]

Since the underlying reality is Oneness, which creates illusory multiplicity by thought, total liberation = elimination of all thought-forms and concepts, and a re-merging with the undifferentiated, blissful Oneness state.

Thus every thought-form (i.e., ego, created entity) seeks the eventual dissolution of the concept within which it is temporarily embedded, and a return to pure Being entirely unconstrained by any form.

To make this clearer, think of pure Being without any limitations, unconstrained in any way. Then imagine that Being allowed to express itself only through a particular shape, and only in particular ways. Frogs can only hop, cats can only meow, to use a silly but accurate metaphor. It is a tremendously diminished state. Everything we believe to be true about ourselves, every aspect of our identity is a thought-form that restricts pure Being into particular channels and ways of expression.

My point with all of this is to help you recognize that if you are seeking liberation, you are seeking Oneness. This state of pure harmony with All That Is is reached - you may have guessed it - by creating harmony with All That Is while incarnated. Hence all the world's spiritual teachings urging the same love and unconditional acceptance.

But I suspect that the kind of liberation you mean is quite different from that. You mentioned that ultimately you just want to be left alone to do as you please. I can't say whether or not this is possible within Illusion - I would think, why not - but recognize that this "liberation" would still be just an illusory state nonetheless -- only a continued temporary distortion of your Oneness with the All.

Furthermore, why are you here - on Earth, I mean? It's a mixed harvest crucible of rapid polarization, with, as I understand it, a very long waiting list of entities wishing to join the party. This leads me to believe that you did not get here by accident. Ask yourself - what are your soul's goals in being here, and could they perhaps be different from the goals you are experiencing now, as a "human", after the veil has dropped and your soul's goals have been forgotten?

Life in 3D can be difficult, but perhaps by discovering your soul's goals for being here - that is, your own, pre-incarnative goals - you might find a way to be in greater harmony within yourself. Good luck to you, brother.

[Mahakali]

Well, yes, merging with the Ultimate is the final goal. That's what liberation is. But, first, I think I have to let go of craving for form, and I crave a higher form of freedom right now.

Why is that sometimes this world is portrayed as a living Hell of karmic debts run by evil tyrants from which escape is the primary goal, though they try to trap you here even in death, yet, other times, it's portrayed as a great place of opportunity with long waiting lists where even the gods vie to be born?

Is it not possible that this is not just a nexus of various portions of an infinite multiverse, and, say, the Ra material, or Christianity, or atheism, etc. are just different paths to take that lead to different places in said infinite multiverse, and the reality of the matter is not so linear?

This is what I feel the truth is, deep down. I believe that infinity is present in every moment, and perhaps no such thing as a past exists, and "reincarnation" is just a manifestation in space/time of whatever time/space pattern we are left in at point of death.

Anyone else have an opinion on this?

[Steampunkish]

Well, yes, merging with the Ultimate is the final goal. That's what liberation is. But, first, I think I have to let go of craving for form, and I crave a higher form of freedom right now.

Why is that sometimes this world is portrayed as a living Hell of karmic debts run by evil tyrants from which escape is the primary goal, though they try to trap you here even in death, yet, other times, it's portrayed as a great place of opportunity with long waiting lists where even the gods vie to be born?

Is it not possible that this is not just a nexus of various portions of an infinite multiverse, and, say, the Ra material, or Christianity, or atheism, etc. are just different paths to take that lead to different places in said infinite multiverse, and the reality of the matter is not so linear?

This is what I feel the truth is, deep down. I believe that infinity is present in every moment, and perhaps no such thing as a past exists, and "reincarnation" is just a manifestation in space/time of whatever time/space pattern we are left in at point of death.

I hope you're not trolling

Anyone else have an opinion on this?

[Nicholas]

I seek practical advice.

I have read most of this thread and so wont reiterate the good stuff I have come across (I love the room cleaning advice, personally  ).  As reaper said, you appear quite on the ball and I think we are pretty limited and unqualified in giving you what you are looking for...

What I really need is advice on removal of the astral implants

Well if someone is burnt out from work life or family commitments, taking a sabbatical can help. The point of this is an outside in approach to transformation via a change of scenery. Your situation seems very different though, but the outside in method might help. Neggie critters enjoy dirty environments, whether it's dirty fingernails, an overflowing ashtray, or a decomposing mole caught several years ago in a trap under the floor boards.

The executive suite for them is a dirty mind!  

and a better understanding on the operation of Stargates.

That sounds like a sabbatical to me!  

My ultimate goal is to attain total liberation, and I'll risk whatever I have to risk to achieve it.

Mahakali, you sound like a courageous soul to me because you seem to have programmed a lot of catalyst for yourself. I have not really shared my own catchphrase that much so make of it what you will...

To undergo true reform and to truly be reborn, is the truest form of liberty.

I'm not afraid of Death, at any rate; just the end of this dream and the start of another. This one has been bad, and I won't end it prematurely.

I like this bit cause you are displaying some grit. However, would you leave your clothes on the beach or give the fish something more to chew on?  

Anyway, the only advice I can give that I feel is worth sharing is, whenever the time feels right, to ask yourself what you really need right now, and be sincere about it. Then allow your eyes to wander across whatever scenery is about you. Do your eyes fall upon an empty wine bottle, or a shampoo bottle? How does this image relate to your internal query? Or, what is written on the label, or a part of it that seems to give you pause for thought? These are just simple examples of higher self guidance. I can't count the amount I have had personally, and I don't mean to say that arrogantly, it's just that I know what I am talking about here. This guidance will most probably point you towards removing those astral implants, and it will most likely sound completely illogical!

The only other thing I would say is to discern between what your fragmented self is telling you, and what you are authentically intuiting. Our fragments are there to protect us and they serve some much needed purpose at times. Your faith in self honesty, and of course, will power, will bring them home  

Best of Luck buddy and I hope this thread evolves far beyond it's current 2nd page 

One of my favourite signatures on this forum comes from a member that rarely makes any posts. It's almost as if he knows it to be true, as I am sure you do to...

"All is Well".

[Manjushri]

My advice:

Go outside more
Spend less time on the internet
Listen to music that makes you happy
Forget about star gates and aliens and Angels
Use a neti pot often
Sage your house

Hope this helps! Love and light and sunshine and rainbows.

[Aion]

Well, yes, merging with the Ultimate is the final goal. That's what liberation is. But, first, I think I have to let go of craving for form, and I crave a higher form of freedom right now.

Why is that sometimes this world is portrayed as a living Hell of karmic debts run by evil tyrants from which escape is the primary goal, though they try to trap you here even in death, yet, other times, it's portrayed as a great place of opportunity with long waiting lists where even the gods vie to be born?

Is it not possible that this is not just a nexus of various portions of an infinite multiverse, and, say, the Ra material, or Christianity, or atheism, etc. are just different paths to take that lead to different places in said infinite multiverse, and the reality of the matter is not so linear?

This is what I feel the truth is, deep down. I believe that infinity is present in every moment, and perhaps no such thing as a past exists, and "reincarnation" is just a manifestation in space/time of whatever time/space pattern we are left in at point of death.

Anyone else have an opinion on this?

Yes, I agree that infinity is not only "present" but is in fact the very foundation of the moment which exists at all times simultaneously. What we perceive as other selves and other lives are all co-existent within one single present moment, each in corresponded with all others. I believe there is, truly, only one being and that when we meet any other thing, in whatever form, we are interacting with that same being. The past only exists 'in the moment', as does the future. The past is what we call our memory of the state of the moment we have experienced and the future is what we call the occurrence of any change within the moment.

There is no other 'place' to go, in my opinion. Rather, you call the conditions upon you by the focus you hold in the moment. Thus, the more you focus upon any identity, regardless of whether or not you like it, the more it will be reinforced within your reality. Thus, if you want things that are contrary to your attachments, it will be very difficult to call those conditions.

36.4 Questioner: Do I understand from this then that the higher self or Oversoul may break down into numerous units if the experience is required to what we would call simultaneously experience different types of catalyst and then oversee these experiences?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement we cannot say to be correct or incorrect due to the confusions of what you call time. True simultaneity is available only when all things are seen to be occurring at once. This overshadows the concept of which you speak. The concept of various parts of the being living experiences of varying natures simultaneously is not precisely accurate due to your understanding that this would indicate that this was occurring with true simultaneity. This is not the case.

The case is from universe to universe and parallel existences can then be programmed by the Higher Self, given the information available from the mind/body/spirit complex totality regarding the probability/possibility vortices at any crux.

70.9 Questioner: I think I have an erroneous concept of the mind/body/spirit complex, for instance, that I represent here in this density and my higher self. The concept probably comes from my concept of space and time. I am going to try to unscramble it. The way I see it right now is that I am existing in two different locations, here and in mid-sixth density, simultaneously. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You are existing at all levels simultaneously. It is specifically correct that your higher self is you in mid-sixth density and, in your way of measuring what you know of as time, your higher self is your self in your future.

70.12 Questioner: Then what we are looking at is a long path of experience through the densities up to mid-sixth density which are a function totally of free will and result in the awareness of the higher self in mid-sixth density, but since time is illusory and there is a, shall I say, unification of time and space or an eradication of what we think of as time, then, all of this experience that results in the higher self, the cause of evolvement through the densities, is existing while the evolvement takes place, since it’s all simultaneous. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We refrain from speaking of correctness due to our understanding of the immense difficulty of absorbing the concepts of metaphysical existence. In time/space, which is precisely as much of your self as is space/time, all times are simultaneous just as, in your geography, your cities and villages are all functioning, bustling, and alive with entities going about their business at once. So it is in time/space with the self.

I believe balancing allows us to properly grasp the many angles of ourselves. When I suggested change before I did not mean to imply anything would be "lost", but rather you would find the opposite concepts of which you are conceiving and attempt to reconcile them within yourself. Thus, for hatred you would balance it with love. For fear you would balance it with courage. Masochism you could maybe balance with care-taking or with compassion. Of course, all these things would be balance vice versa as well. As they are equalized they will naturally 'dissolve', not disappear but they will "integrate" with yourself. One way to think of it is a process of gradually becoming One, all the identities within becoming as the One, united.

5.2 Questioner: We have decided to accept, if offered, the honor/duty of learning/teaching the healing process. I would ask as to the first step which we should accomplish in becoming effective healers.
Ra: I am Ra. We shall begin with the first of the three teachings/learnings.

We begin with the mental learn/teachings necessary for contact with intelligent infinity. The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain silence of self at a steady state when required by the self. The mind must be opened like a door. The key is silence.

Within the door lies an hierarchical construction you may liken unto geography and in some ways geometry, for the hierarchy is quite regular, bearing inner relationships.

To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.

The second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your consciousness. It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness to pick and choose among attributes, thus building the roles that cause blockages and confusions in the already-distorted mind complex. Each acceptance smoothes part of the many distortions that the faculty you call judgment engenders.

The third discipline of the mind is a repetition of the first but with the gaze outward towards the fellow entities that it meets. In each entity there exists completeness. Thus, the ability to understand each balance is necessary. When you view patience, you are responsible for mirroring in your mental understanding, patience/impatience. When you view impatience, it is necessary for your mental configuration of understanding to be impatience/patience. We use this as a simple example. Most configurations of mind have many facets, and understanding of either self polarities, or what you would call other-self polarities, can and must be understood as subtle work.

The next step is the acceptance of the other-self polarities, which mirrors the second step.

These are the first four steps of learning mental discipline. The fifth step involves observing the geographical and geometrical relationships and ratios of the mind, the other mind, the mass mind, and the infinite mind.

The second area of learn/teaching is the study/understanding of the body complexes. It is necessary to know your body well. This is a matter of using the mind to examine how the feelings, the biases, what you would call the emotions, affect various portions of the body complex. It shall be necessary to both understand the bodily polarities and to accept them, repeating in a chemical/physical manifestation the work you have done upon the mind bethinking the consciousness.

The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may then be accomplished.

It is then the task to extend this understanding to the bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet. The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male is female; each biological female is male. This is a simple example. However, in almost every case wherein you are attempting the understanding of the body of self or other-self, you will again find that the most subtle discernment is necessary in order to fully grasp the polarity complexes involved.

At this time we would suggest closing the description until the next time of work so that we may devote time to the third area commensurate with its importance.

We can answer a query if it is a short one before we leave this instrument.

Mental discipline allows you to focus through will upon that which is desire as catalyst to be experienced. The more you free your mind of attachments to form and identity, the ways in which you imagine yourself, the more your reality will be freed by the experience. I know you are not interested in any path of service and that is fine, but I personally think that the "heart of evolution" and the return to the Ultimate is fundamentally 'the same'. I think the saying is, 'wide is the path, narrow is the gate'. I agree, there are infinite, unlimited number of 'paths' to take, but ultimately it is all just a crossroad leading to a crossroad leading to a crossroad. It's not til you stop and realize that the 'paths' all lead to one 'point' - you - that you see that the paths are not really there at all, there are only directions you go in facing yourself.

52.11 Questioner: Thank you. Just a little point that was bothering me of no real importance.

Well, is there then, from the point of view of an individual who wishes to follow the service-to-others path from our present position in third density, is there anything of importance other than disciplines of personality, knowledge of self, and strengthening of will?
Ra: I am Ra. This is technique. This is not the heart. Let us examine the heart of evolution.

Let us remember that we are all one. This is the great learning/teaching. In this unity lies love. This is a great learn/teaching. In this unity lies light. This is the fundamental teaching of all planes of existence in materialization. Unity, love, light, and joy; this is the heart of evolution of the spirit.

The second-ranking lessons are learn/taught in meditation and in service. At some point the mind/body/spirit complex is so smoothly activated and balanced by these central thoughts or distortions that the techniques you have mentioned become quite significant. However, the universe, its mystery unbroken, is one. Always begin and end in the Creator, not in technique.