Contact by Orion?

[AnthroHeart]

So it makes no sense to blame an entity for a bad, controlling thought.

[mattschryer]

I feel that this post is relative to the LOO, but because it references another channel I'm not sure if it's allowed in this forum. I'll post it up anyways and see what comes of it. I'll refrain from stating the channel so we can just focus on the message.

Q: What is the synchronistic relationship between Orion, the energies of Orion, and our present transitional Earth?
B: Thank you! Let us put it very simply for now, and very succinctly. Origin: Earth/Pleiades system in Lyra, split off into Pleiades system and Orion system. Pleiades system, retention of integration; Orion system, creation of separation and limitation. Projection from Orion systems, to the idea in Earth system known as Maldek; the former planet between Mars and Jupiter, now destroyed. Projection from Maldek to Earth, the ideas of Lemuria and Atlantis which have ultimatlely led to the idea of the present Earth civilization, for the purpose of exploration of the blending of the polarities, positive and negative, so as to form in some factions, a feed-back system to original Orion systems experiencing negativity and suppression, so that they could also blend. So that there can be, in round about ways, so to speak, re-blending, re-identification, with original systems, original families, now to be found in Pleiades, and to form reconnections after balancing, after transformation. One direction is the path of integration, the other direction is the path of separation. Now the rejoining of those original families that originated in the Lyran system.
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B: Orion is your own terminology for the overall idea which is represented by, I’ll say, a few different civilizations. Understand as you will, that what you understand to be the constellation you express as Orion will be formed of many stellar groups which are at varying distances to each other in that way.
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Q: Individuals that we have historically identified as evil or suppressive, is their energy source from Orion.
B: Now again, one more time, understand that no one is being forced to do anything by Orion.
Q: Understood.
B: Understand simply, that when there is the identification within your own consciousness of the idea of vibrating at that level of negative energy, then you allow for the manifestation of the expansion of their reality, and as such, you are then performing, in that way, their conscious choice, and in that way you could say that you are extending their reality into your own by you having chosen to be of that vibration. You may say that their influence, in that way, is extended, but it is only because of your own choice to vibrate in that way at that level.
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B: A very, very strong Orion incarnation was the historical individual you call Sargon of Akkad. This individual is recognized in your history as being responsible for the creation of the Arabic Empire, therefore it is founded on many Orion principles. In that way therefore, they are struggling, simply because they believe - as the Orions did in those times - that to struggle, and to experience conflict, was the only way to express and understand the self. They are now beginning to assimilate into many other cultures that allow them the opportunity to recognize they can blend and balance that energy in a positive way, and that it does not have to be a struggle or a conflict of ideologies. The blending of all ideologies is what will actually, paradoxically, allow them to express their own ideology the easiest.

[Bourbon Betty]

I have not yet finished reading all of the Ra and Law of  One material, so my question might possibly still be answered as I continue reading.  
QUESTION:  How does one know when, of if, they are being contacted or influenced by the Orion Complex?

Fear that the universe is real, not that its real for you, is most often sign of Orion.

Fear that losing a game will mean that you lose something for real instead of losing it just for you, which is the definition of real, forgetting and downplaying that loss is clear Orion sign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EdLMxjPCg Against Orions but with very strong Orion presence. *points at flashing red targetting icon in bottom left corner*

[Bourbon Betty]

Orion invoking.



Same difference.

[Bourbon Betty]

So it makes no sense to blame an entity for a bad, controlling thought.

I've noted that it depends strongly on if you believe that you should be the one to strike back against interlopers or if you should leave that up to god.

Or, if you believe that the purpose of prayer is to get you a bike, or, to get you forgiveness after you've taken the bike.

The more strongly you believe that its the job of someone externalized to get you the bike or the forgiveness as you have not been born of your own choice, then it makes perfect sense to not blame an entity for a bad thought, but if you believe that you exist where you exist because you wish to exist there, then certainly blaming an entity for their thoughts is proper.

That depends on if you wish to see the person as the body or the energy field which includes all the bodies which follow the body.

http://www.watchseries.li/link/2217952

This seems a good example of a Person v Energy field and Energy Transfer v Orion Influence debate.

[Zach]

The inner planes are crawling with negative entities and thought forms that might be attracted to an entity that vibrates in resonance with them to some degree. It's also possible to receive negative thought forms from incarnate other-selves. I think it's pretty rare that an entity is being directly targeted by an emissary from the Orion empire.

This. Also Keeping in my that there are many, many hierarchical structures within the Orion Group. I imagine there are those on a lower level who work with many inner planes entities of Earth. I also think whether one has been aware of the offered temptations or not it seems to me pretty inevitable that at some point during a persons (wanderers especially) spiritual journey they will be greeted/tempted...the power and intention behind the greeting varying. For the lower level greetings that may or may not be orion affiliated, I've seen them kind of like the inevitability of bugs and food/water. During the warm months, SOME bugs are pretty much inevitable. When you prepare food, it lets off a smell they are drawn. The question is what are you preparing?

[Nicholas]

The inner planes are crawling with negative entities and thought forms that might be attracted to an entity that vibrates in resonance with them to some degree. It's also possible to receive negative thought forms from incarnate other-selves. I think it's pretty rare that an entity is being directly targeted by an emissary from the Orion empire.

This. Also Keeping in my that there are many, many hierarchical structures within the Orion Group. I imagine there are those on a lower level who work with many inner planes entities of Earth. I also think whether one has been aware of the offered temptations or not it seems to me pretty inevitable that at some point during a persons (wanderers especially) spiritual journey they will be greeted/tempted...the power and intention behind the greeting varying. For the lower level greetings that may or may not be orion affiliated, I've seen them kind of like the inevitability of bugs and food/water. During the warm months, SOME bugs are pretty much inevitable. When you prepare food, it lets off a smell they are drawn. The question is what are you preparing?

Grandiose delusions are also attractive to inner plane neggies. 
They also persist with the energising thoughts of self sabotage. So if you ever feel tempted to destroy things, they are probably lurking around and egging you on. Like when I pick up my hammer at work and I have a flash image of whacking my own face with it. If I wasn't feeling any inner aggression in the first place, such images would not surface in my consciousness. 
I also feel rather validated by such greetings because it reverb's back to my conscious, "s*** dude! you really are serious about serving the Creator!"
I personally relate to the Creator as my father (the father I never had in my life), so its an ideal call to the cosmos when I say "I really need you dad!"

[Aloha]

Yera's post is good. Here's a bit of an extrapolation if it will help:

-If the message makes you afraid, it's likely Orion
-If the message makes you feel superior to others, or the messenger acts as a superior to you, it is likely Orion

If you are a positive entity, a negative contact will attempt to depolarize you, demoralize you, discredit you, or aggrandize you. A positive entity will give you messages of hope, love, oneness. Negs are tricky so they will throw in the lovey dovey stuff you want to hear, too, but if anything at all is off it's good to re-shield yourself, or challenge it if you feel confident in the moment (you should).

Either Ra or ACIM advises that we are "here" as long as we are attached to ANYthing. When we no longer have any reaction, or when our reaction is attentive curiosity, compassionate friendliness, and we only ask, "How can I help balance this? How can I be of service to other?" without ulterior motives, then we are ready for a level-up.

This is active love not apathy. Apathy is a form of indecision. Love has to be self-less, unconditional. This is not the same as self-sacrifice. We love and care for ourselves, and we love and care for our other-selves. Not at our own self expense, but alongside our own self. Yet the one who asks first, "What's the cost or risk to me?" is still living in a distortion that the body is real and must be protected at all costs. At the same time, the choice to sacrifice self is a deeply personal one. Orion will preach to you about "duty" using guilt trips. The altruistic self-sacrifice is not one that is demanded or coerced. People who lead with their title, their badge, their "position" or education are all Orion in my book. Anyone using manipulative language like, "You have to..." or "it's mandatory for you to..." or says, "I need you to..." is Orion.

There are a lot of in-betweeners. Here, there, everywhere. Orion lacks imagination. They are like computer programmers, cinema directors, magicians, circus show hosts, casino goers, stock brokers, lawyers...they know how to move objects and people around to create illusions. If it is "too good to be true" it's Orion. If it is a "sweet deal," "only for you," "secret" etc. it's Orion. Hollywood is mostly Orion. Orion can be entertaining. It's the attachment that becomes a problem.

[GentleWanderer]

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[Nicholas]

If you are curious about them, it is very easy to make contact.

I suppose most people here if not all are STO. There are a lot posts about STS, does this means
we could attract negative greetings by trying to understand how a negative entity perceive the world ?

Possibly. The important aspect is that you are more curios, than afraid. 

I took 100 grams of mushrooms last April, as a cry for help. I got them from Amsterdam through the post.

A pair of wanderers showed themselves to me. I did not appreciate what I saw because they were amphibian in nature. I questioned them but they merely gave me an image of their origins. They truly are born from frog like origins. 

Anyhow, I became impatient and asked them why they were in my vibration... They said and did nothing... So I went to bed.

I later found out that 5 grams is enough. But I still assume that neggie energies are cowards because they declined to answer my call out. They are bogus impressions and are not truly worth our attention imo. 

From my experience, you only need to call out the negative from a perspective of curiosity and the f***ers fall silent. 

I initially called them gutless. But its a smarter position to remain silent, thinking about it. They knew I was curios about their sexy asses 

[im_not_me]

I have not yet finished reading all of the Ra and Law of  One material, so my question might possibly still be answered as I continue reading.  
QUESTION:  How does one know when, of if, they are being contacted or influenced by the Orion Complex?

I mean no offense when I say this but you usually need to be of viable use for Orion. If they don't directly communicate with you they might just send psychic greetings or other means of acknowledgment. Sometimes they play with you and offer you catalysts that give opportunity to polarize, even if you do not intend on making contact with them. One way or another if you are consuming the Law of One material you will be noticed by them. They like to play.

It is difficult to explicate this into language but usually you can use your senses to evaluate if whom you are speaking with is of STO or STS nature. If you feel like you are being welcomed with some tingling sensation of love and forgiveness then it's likely STO. If you feel like you are emotionally in debt and in the presence of an almighty being of voluptuous yet dangerous power it is likely STS.