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    Aion (Offline)

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    #31
    10-14-2015, 10:09 AM
    Because it appears to me to be more balanced than ignoring or avoiding it. To avoid war is to avoid part of myself. I have found a way to embrace it while still embracing peace.
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    #32
    10-14-2015, 02:06 PM (This post was last modified: 10-19-2019, 11:23 PM by earth_spirit.)
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    #33
    10-14-2015, 03:10 PM
    War is what I am. I am Reunderstanding my past Mastery, forgotten many lives away and re-remembering all the time. Every now is a Prana (Matrix), breathing with Akasha (Potentiator); -> Experience -> Great Sleepingness Always/never awake, etc, Transformation, etc.

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    #34
    10-15-2015, 01:20 AM (This post was last modified: 10-15-2015, 01:34 AM by Aion.)
    (10-14-2015, 02:06 PM)earth_spirit Wrote:
    (10-13-2015, 09:08 PM)Aion Wrote: War is the defining identity of the human race because the human race wars with themselves, with their own identity.

    That is presumably because all peoples who prepared for Peace have been wiped out by those who prepared for War.

    It is easy to get in to such a victim mentality but I don't think it is just such a matter as 'peaceful' people merely being disrupted from their peace. Nor do I think peace is always 'good', sometimes it's stagnant and complacent. I think often people simply equate peace with a lack of struggle or a lack of difficulty, when I think that more often than not peace is really a way that people try to justify inaction or to refute ideas which, to them, are rambunctious.

    War and Peace are not opposites actually, although many would say they are. I see it that the opposite of war is not peace, it is leisure. The opposite of peace is passion.

    You might say that in peace there is more leisure, and in war there is more passion. However, I see war and peace as being two sides of the same coin. Peace means the war is internalized, it becomes a matter of what is within.

    This war does not cease until you pass in to Sixth Density. It is the microcosm of the war between polarities internalized.

    It is funny as you seem to insult the warrior. There was a time when the only way for a people to be at peace in their home was for those dedicated to protection to be oriented towards war. I don't just mean against humans either, nature is full of war. The very fight for survival is war on its most base level. Without warriors the human race would have been wiped out by predators thousands of years ago.

    I continue this now, protecting where I may against predators. That is my war.

    Consider that I am viewing Peace/Passion as a spectrum with those as extremes and I view War/Leisure as a spectrum with those as the extremes. One is a spectrum of feeling, the other is one of doing.

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    10-15-2015, 03:27 AM (This post was last modified: 10-19-2019, 11:23 PM by earth_spirit.)
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    #36
    10-15-2015, 03:38 AM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shTtbqYic3w I've found imaginary challenges to people who like pain is a good way to deal with situations like these. "Hey, you fighters, I saw a scene where someone was robbed for 200, which of you wants to go find the robber and defend his honor and which of you wants to try to attack the robber?" "thought" at the screen creates all kinds of mysteries.

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    #37
    10-15-2015, 05:18 PM (This post was last modified: 10-15-2015, 06:06 PM by Aion.)
    (10-15-2015, 03:27 AM)earth_spirit Wrote:
    (10-15-2015, 01:20 AM)Aion Wrote: It is easy to get in to such a victim mentality

    Not really. Live by the sword, die by the sword. The only people whom "Warriors" are truly victimizing is themselves.


    (10-15-2015, 01:20 AM)Aion Wrote: I see it that the opposite of war is not peace, it is leisure.

    That works if you believe "War" means the same thing as Struggle.


    (10-15-2015, 01:20 AM)Aion Wrote: I see war and peace as being two sides of the same coin.

    Your previous statement "War and Peace are not opposites actually" is difficult to reconcile with this one. I don't mean to nit pick, but your outlook appears to be lacking in consistency.


    (10-15-2015, 01:20 AM)Aion Wrote: This war does not cease until you pass in to Sixth Density. It is the microcosm of the war between polarities internalized.

    The cannibalistic, dog eat dog warfare ends with the beginning of 4th density positive. I would even go as far as to say that it also ends in 4th negative, when the initial struggle for power has ended and order is established.

    It would appear that you have a rather wide and romanticized understanding of "war". I think it is a bit of a stretch to use it in the context of fighting wild animals for survival.


    (10-15-2015, 01:20 AM)Aion Wrote: It is funny as you seem to insult the warrior.

    I don't find it funny that you see conflict where none exists.

    Third density war provides unique and valuable experiences of anguish and seperation to the Creator. It also provides a speed boost in terms of developing polarity toward either STS or STO.

    But apart from those two reasons which are quite important on their own, there is no justification for the existence of third density warfare. In order for it to exist, there must be a surplus peaceful citizens and workers on whose backs the noble, cannibalistic Warriors can "wage war" with their own species. After the Harvest, those who still want to "wage war" with their own people will have to go elsewhere to play their third density war games.

    I said 'seem', although I still see it, but you say not. There is little point to me saying anything more. I am well acquainted with that viewpoint and I will simply suggest that you perhaps have a your own romanticized view. I feel you already have a very biased perception of war, as do I, and they are likely not reconciliable.

    I admit, your 'tone' comes across as condescending but since you love to point out hypocrisy Ill just jump right in to, 'yes, Im wrong, I contradict myself, ignore me'. It's all me and in my head, Im the one with all the distortions and confusion. Thanks for your reflection. C'est la vie.

    I'm just going to agree to disagree. I respect your viewpoint even if I don't share it.

    Note: Oh wait, maybe I should use a more peaceful way of talking. People seem to like me more when I am not abrasive. Sorry about that.

    The mentality of 'peace' is ironic to me. "Not going to be peaceful? Go somewhere else!" How very accepting and compassionate...

    Wait, I'm supposed to be polite, aren't I? Otherwise I will have to go to another planet.

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    10-15-2015, 06:27 PM (This post was last modified: 10-15-2015, 06:28 PM by Aion.)
    Should probably just ignore me, my words are really meaningless. Sorry for sharing.

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    10-15-2015, 06:31 PM (This post was last modified: 10-15-2015, 10:00 PM by AnthroHeart.)
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    #40
    10-15-2015, 07:05 PM
    Oh, also, Ra says that 4D is also still involved with the 'thought war' or war between polarities. They even said there are positive Confederation entities of 4D who partake in this war (a maximum of four it seems). It is 5D and above which no longer sees the need for the war. I'm not in 5D or 6D right now.
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    #41
    10-15-2015, 08:48 PM
    (10-15-2015, 06:27 PM)Aion Wrote: Should probably just ignore me, my words are really meaningless. Sorry for sharing.

    Only my words are of value, you fool.

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