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    09-13-2015, 07:07 AM
    Simple question. Not sure if anyone else experiences a 'negative' emotion often and finds it starts to feel good.

    I've been angry for a long time. Its bled into this forum even. Now suddenly having fully accepted that I am an angry person now and then, I find it feels good. Good to scream and shout and rage, not so much hit though... never desired to be like that at all due to my father.

    But Anger is suddenly feeling...Good. Like 'its okay to be mad, that's who you are' kind of feel good...

    Can anyone help me make sense of this? Or maybe share a similar experience???
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    09-13-2015, 08:29 AM
    Anger has it's own energy.  Which can be quite enlivening.  But, ultimately, it leads to entropy, as it doesn't have any 'ordering' in and of itself.  Think of unusable heat.

    Anger is mostly caused by frustration, and disappointed expectations.

    I used to enjoy the feeling of Rage myself.  Sort of holier-than-thou attitude.
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    09-13-2015, 09:07 AM
    Anger is beautiful like any emotion.

    But then you can view whether you are slave to your anger or if it is an archetype at your disposition.

    Last time I felt anger/rage was a few hours after saying it is an emotion I doubt I could feel again. But the case was particular, I did not channel my own rage and it was purposeful in the circumstances.

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    09-13-2015, 10:41 AM
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    The_Tired_Philosopher :
    Simple question. Not sure if anyone else experiences a 'negative' emotion often and finds it starts to feel good.
    [/quote]

    Do you understand/know the source of your anger? I would venture to say that if it 'feels good' therefore implies a sense of validation for you?

    Quote:The_Tired_Philosopher :

    I've been angry for a long time. Its bled into this forum even. Now suddenly having fully accepted that I am an angry person now and then, I find it feels good. Good to scream and shout and rage, not so much hit though... never desired to be like that at all due to my father.

    Maybe the source of your anger is linked to your childhood experience of abuse from your father. As a child you were not able to 'fight back'.


    Quote:The_Tired_Philosopher :

    But Anger is suddenly feeling...Good. Like 'its okay to be mad, that's who you are' kind of feel good...
    You are feeling a sense of validation.



    Quote:Bring4th_Plenum :
    Anger is mostly caused by frustration, and disappointed expectations.
    I agree with Bring4th_Plenum as to this being the basis of anger.


    I've had a problem with anger at times too, probably stemming from lack of validation, thwarted expectations,  but as life is for me a spiritual journey, I've come to terms with and taken responsibility for, and have worked through these issues.
    The key, for me, was to 'Know' myself and work from there.

    Evolution is a lifelong journey and I've only just started to 'relax' into the unknowns and go with the flow of discovery.

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    09-13-2015, 11:26 AM
    In Van's case I do not think the root of his anger necessarily lies within this lifetime, perhaps not even related to this planet.

    Most strong emotional distortions I've released so far had nothing to do with this ball we're spinning with.

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    09-13-2015, 11:52 AM (This post was last modified: 09-13-2015, 11:53 AM by Monica.)
    To me, anger doesn't feel good at all. But, suppressed anger feels even less good.

    Could it be that it isn't the anger itself that you perceive as feeling good, but the release of it?

    In my Rebirthing training, I was taught that suppressed anger eats away at a person from the inside, and must eventually come out. (Science backs this up: A single moment of anger releases toxins in the body which suppresses the immune system for something like 12 hours. Chinese medicine says that anger is stored in the liver. Chronic anger can cause liver problems. Conversely, liver problems can cause anger. It works both ways. Ra also mentioned what anger can do in the body.)

    We were taught to allow the person to access their anger (through breathing techniques) and express it in a harmless way (by hitting a pillow, screaming, crying, punching a punching bag, etc.) and then, once it has been expressed, replace it with positive affirmations.

    This had the effect of reprogramming the cells, which store negative emotions. Those emotions must first be accessed, before they can be transmuted.

    This has a positive effect on the immune system. It also clears chakra blockages and gets the energy moving.

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    09-13-2015, 12:01 PM
    I guess it depends upon the catalyst of the anger. If one is angry for certain reasons, it could be used more productively. Anger and joy, love and hate are the polarities of self consciousness, the line between them are often hazed.
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    09-13-2015, 12:10 PM
    (09-13-2015, 12:01 PM)Matt1 Wrote: I guess it depends upon the catalyst of the anger. If one is angry for certain reasons, it could be used more productively. Anger and joy, love and hate are the polarities of self consciousness, the line between them are often hazed.

    Agreed.

    While I don't enjoy anger itself, and always feel better after whatever issue that triggered the anger gets resolved, I do enjoy angry music. I have an appreciation for good music that can evoke powerful emotions, and this includes both positive and negative emotions. (I also like intensely sad or despairing music, for the same reason, even though I'm not feeling sad or despairing. Though it's probably triggering the expression of those emotions that might be suppressed, on some level, to some degree that I might Not be consciously aware of.) I usually don't feel angry myself at all when listening to angry music, but I find it energizing and motivating.

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    09-13-2015, 12:14 PM
    It's all about energy transfers, only thing that is actually happening.

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    09-13-2015, 02:15 PM
    Yeah, I'm in the "it's about the energy" camp here. Anger and Love are probably the two most powerful catalysts for building energies, even in those who haven't come to consciously feel\accept the idea of the energies themselves. Both open the body up to Intelligent Infinity, just of different polarities, but it would be a very attractive force either way.

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    09-13-2015, 03:23 PM
    I think it feels good time-to-time because we are channeling deeply unconscious aspects of what we truly are.

    We are channeling self darkness (unconsciousness) and making it light in the world (concrete conscious expression).

    I channeled an energy reminding me of an unbalanced warrior feeling a deep mania and hatred in the midst of battle. Needless to say I have not had many opportunities to express this feeling in my lifetime. Of course I have expressed these energies in past lives, but I have not had a chance yet to understand this part of myself in a clearer light, and knowing it is a part of my self I have felt deep regret for.

    I think we channel these energies life after life so we may refine their expression and gather more and more understanding and love for these parts.

    I do know that one of the main catalyst for Jeshua, especially as a younger entity in his experience was that of frustration and anger at the outer world.

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    09-13-2015, 03:32 PM
    (09-13-2015, 07:07 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Simple question.  Not sure if anyone else experiences a 'negative' emotion often and finds it starts to feel good.

    I've been angry for a long time.  Its bled into this forum even.  Now suddenly having fully accepted that I am an angry person now and then, I find it feels good.  Good to scream and shout and rage, not so much hit though...  never desired to be like that at all due to my father.

    But Anger is suddenly feeling...Good.  Like 'its okay to be mad, that's who you are' kind of feel good...

    Can anyone help me make sense of this?  Or maybe share a similar experience???

    Whenever I was depressed, anger felt good to me.

    The reason why is because anger is of a higher energy level than depression.  In depression, there is utter powerlessness.  In anger, there is a measure of power that is absent in depression, and thus, it feels good relative to depression.

    But when I was in a higher emotional vibration than anger, anger never felt good to me, because it was retrograde.
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    09-13-2015, 03:36 PM
    (09-13-2015, 03:32 PM)anagogy Wrote: Whenever I was depressed, anger felt good to me.

    The reason why is because anger is of a higher energy level than depression.  In depression, there is utter powerlessness.  In anger, there is a measure of power that is absent in depression, and thus, it feels good relative to depression.

    But when I was in a higher emotional vibration than anger, anger never felt good to me, because it was retrograde.

    Very astute! I once attended a business seminar conducted by a Scientologist. We didn't know she was going to teach us Scientology concepts when we scheduled the seminar, but there was actually 1 part of it that seemed really useful. She talked about emotional states of being as 'tones' and said exactly what you just said there, that anger was actually a higher 'tone' than depression or apathy.

    She also said that to help another person, to just vibrate at a tone 1 or 2 levels higher, but if it's too much higher, the person can't relate to it and couldn't be helped.

    It was very interesting, and I always wished I could find that list of tones again. (Not interested in being a Scientologist!)

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    09-13-2015, 05:02 PM (This post was last modified: 09-14-2015, 06:36 AM by Plenum. Edit Reason: placed link behind html tags )
    There's a bunch of emotional guidance scales here:

    [link]

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    09-13-2015, 06:22 PM
    I do think anger/rage can be used as a positive tool if used not for self. For some people, only an emotion such as this can get to their core.

    I can detail further the experience I spoke of earlier. I did a mushroom trip with a friend and we worked both our incarnative archetypes as mirrors facing each other. Once harmonized (took a while, few hours), I have worked the opening of my heart which gave me an experience of the spirit of a STO nature.

    When we got to my home, we talked.. talked.. talked until my sister arrived wasted as f***. (she is depressive, alcoholic and had done cocaine on that day, like many others..). She was very unwell and kept spouting nonsense, at one point she said our mother didn't love her (I personally don't care as I don't believe I need to be loved so much and am just passing by but I do know it was false). In my higher state of mind I channelled the love my mother has for her and turned it into rage. Each time she'd say our mother did not love her, I'd scream louder than the previous time "She loves you" (in french) while staring right into her eyes. Each time it seemed to shake my sister's core and she seemed to lose conviction in her affirmation more and more. Happened like 10 times in a row without any other words spoken.

    It was 6 a.m. and I was challenged because I knew I could be heard from so far away (I don't think I've ever screamed that loud or was even able to...) but I knew it was important to be done.

    Well.. this is my example of a positive/selfless use of anger I had not long after saying it is an emotion I probably wouldn't be able to feel anymore. Like I said, in a way it is an archetype.

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    09-13-2015, 11:00 PM
    I'd say anger feels good because, of all of the emotions that we feel, it's usually one of the most pure. When we are angry, we always feel it is justified. I don't know if that's the same with most other emotions. Anger is validating. Anger opens the red ray. If we follow the "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate" Yodaism, fear would be the closing of the red ray, anger into hate being orange ray activation. So, especially if one is depressed, anger feels good, because it's an increase in energy.

    Have you read Frederick Dodson's Levels of Energy, Van? It's a good one, and a quick read, and I think he speaks of this. Anger is higher on the scale vibrationally than say, apathy, grief, guilt, sorrow, etc.

    Here's the scale he uses:

    High levels of Energy
    1000 Infinity / Divinity
    700 Oneness, Non - Duality, Vast Awareness
    600 Bliss, Peace, Serenity, Lightness
    570 Ecstasy, Exaltation
    550 Unconditional Love
    540 Humor, Happiness
    530 Love, Intuition, Appreciation
    510 Power, Initiative, Integrity
    505 Beauty, Creativity, Imagination
    475 Joy, Creativity

    Mid level s of Energy
    450 Intelligence, Knowledge, Reason
    400 Acceptance, Interest, Attention, Neutrality
    320 Willingness, Kindness, Optimism, Activity
    275 Courage, Relaxation , Eagerness, Fun
    200 Contentment, Routine, Functionality, Boredom

    Low levels of Energy
    190 Pride, Superiority, Arrogance
    180 Antagonism , Criticism , Discontent, Complaint, Blame
    160 Anger, Domination, Aggression, Coldness
    120 Craving , Need, Compulsion, Unfulfilled Desire
    100 Fear, Worry, Shyness, Inferiority, Paranoia
    80 Grief, Sorrow, Self- Pity
    50 Apathy, Despair, Depression, Hopelessness
    30 Guilt, Shame, Psychosis, Humiliation, Hatred

    Quote:160 Anger, Domination, Aggression, Violence, Rage, Revenge
    With outbreaks of anger (160) and Violence (150) this level controls those below. This is your choleric, your dominant, your tyrant, your control freak. He is much more able to react, control and work than lower levels, but often in destructive ways. Compared to the 80s his self-confidence is radiant, compared to the 300s he has none. 160 is a shifting point for those coming from below; for them it feels like freedom, like breaking loose from all constraints. Hence anger-therapy and violent sports. Hence war. Lower levels are liberated from dullness and victimhood. Armed forces and military conquer and beat lower levels but not only in the sense of having more power than them (a general rule of the scale is that in competition higher energy always beats lower), but by the excitement and energy it generates. War mongering does weaken the 170s, 180s, 200s, but it empowers those that were in apathy. Knowing this we can see the world with more compassion and tolerance, we see that some of this "negative" energy is needed for the elevation of the sorry masses drifting through apathy-hell . No offense to the pacifists, but the macho-aggression of the US Marines along with some of the raging lunatics of military Africa or the angry rants of the religious fanatic serve to elevate the depressed and repair lower levels within mass-consciousness. An angry rant is just what those stuck on shame, guilt and apathy need.

    It's a good read. I couldn't find the link from where I downloaded the pdf, but I do have a copy if anyone wants it.

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    09-13-2015, 11:29 PM
    It's not that anger itself feels good, it's that it feels good to feel and let emotions flow because you are not resisting.

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    09-14-2015, 12:32 AM
    Any type of release feels good. It's an emotional orgasm.

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    09-14-2015, 02:41 AM
    Okay now we're leaving the entire concept of what I felt for some kind of release of a larger nature.  There's a lot to respond to. .and it is raining outside.  This might take a while on phone...  here goes.

    (09-13-2015, 08:29 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: Anger has it's own energy.  Which can be quite enlivening.  But, ultimately, it leads to entropy, as it doesn't have any 'ordering' in and of itself.  Think of unusable heat.

    Anger is mostly caused by frustration, and disappointed expectations.

    I used to enjoy the feeling of Rage myself.  Sort of holier-than-thou attitude.

    I think you've lumped anger in with unawareness.  My anger is highly ordered in my mind.  It stems from feeling suffering of others and powerlessness.  Its a lashing out for them, the many in the world who suffer, and die every day for pointless reasons.  Especially for the kids and veterans in the US alone, Nevermind the entire system of suffering across the 'middle east' And Africa that I'm aware of..
    Its ordered but it is a closed system, it does cause entropy, but there's still an order to it all...

    (09-13-2015, 10:41 AM)Enyiah Wrote: [quote pid='193024' dateline='1442149641']
    The_Tired_Philosopher :
    Simple question. Not sure if anyone else experiences a 'negative' emotion often and finds it starts to feel good.

    Do you understand/know the source of your anger? I would venture to say that if it 'feels good' therefore implies a sense of validation for you?


    Quote:The_Tired_Philosopher :

    I've been angry for a long time. Its bled into this forum even. Now suddenly having fully accepted that I am an angry person now and then, I find it feels good. Good to scream and shout and rage, not so much hit though... never desired to be like that at all due to my father.

    Maybe the source of your anger is linked to your childhood experience of abuse from your father. As a child you were not able to 'fight back'.



    Quote:The_Tired_Philosopher :

    But Anger is suddenly feeling...Good. Like 'its okay to be mad, that's who you are' kind of feel good...
    You are feeling a sense of validation.




    Quote:Bring4th_Plenum :
    Anger is mostly caused by frustration, and disappointed expectations.
    I agree with Bring4th_Plenum as to this being the basis of anger.


    I've had a problem with anger at times too, probably stemming from lack of validation, thwarted expectations,  but as life is for me a spiritual journey, I've come to terms with and taken responsibility for, and have worked through these issues.
    The key, for me, was to 'Know' myself and work from there.

    Evolution is a lifelong journey and I've only just started to 'relax' into the unknowns and go with the flow of discovery.
    [/quote] -END OF GIANT BROKEN QUOTE-

    -START OF RESPONSE-
    This anger is preincarnational.  Or...genetic.  I do validate it as an inherent part of myself.  A tool I need to learn from.  The world is frustrating.  I'm asked to turn a lovingly indifferent eye to it.

    That too angers me, that is not loving in my mind.

    (09-13-2015, 11:26 AM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: In Van's case I do not think the root of his anger necessarily lies within this lifetime, perhaps not even related to this planet.

    Most strong emotional distortions I've released so far had nothing to do with this ball we're spinning with.

    This might be true. It feels like a leftover resource from a life of cruelty in a vague sense.  A very violent life, maybe...

    -Glares at quote function refusing to work now-

    Monica, expressing anger has been shown to increase its occurrence.  This feel good feel is actually just allowing the anger to be, not throwing it out into the world or suppressing it.  Now hopefully it'll teach me itself what it aims to teach me. (Probably to be gentle, kindly, and thoughtful of others IN MY MIND, as I generally am in person.)

    I don't really understand how to transmute.  I get transforming through death though.  The acceptance of causes change, the result is death of the old and birth of the new.

    That seminar doesn't match up with my opinion sadly.  You can raise people's tones, just everyone requires different avenues of going about doing so.  For most, Love is the Answer in my opinion.  Crazy kindly unconditional love.

    Anagogy, surprisingly this doesn't match up with me at all.  Originally during work in consciousness I experienced anger shedding off of me and it just disappeared for a while, then returned full blast, now I'm just finally experiencing it not as a bad part of me but a true part of I.  Its like the emotion itself is happy with me...

    Its like.  I accept this darkness I am, and it is made better too in the process.  The anger says 'I accept you too, and will now be more specific'  and i suddenly know WHY I am angry, WHY it matters, WHY this is this way.  To help me lessen up, ease up, relax and accept too the things that have helped me find this anger, so i may accept it.  As it should be.

    Thus, I agree with tamaryn.  Its here to help me love, it is a distortion of love after all.

    Jade, I have a slightly different scale like that saved on my...i think its saved on my phone.
    Anger isnisn't pure, its INTENSE.  Like a scoop with a drill and piledriver orgied into a mass self-digger.  With it comes times of great pain in feelings of helplessness, powerlessness, and sadness.  Sadness and anger are paired for me.  One causes the other.  I believe this is a biological effect more than anything though, an intelligent means of physically causing consideration.

    Maybe Aion is the most right, from my own expressions in this post.

    Emotional orgasms feel good.  This was different.

    First min in a different thread and now you.  All this talk of energy transfers and sexual content makes me want to make a thread on spirituality in sexuality.

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    09-14-2015, 09:50 AM (This post was last modified: 09-14-2015, 09:53 AM by Minyatur.)
    When I spoke of energy transfers, it was in the sense that you could have a root reason why you resonate with this emotion but could at the same time channel anger/rage which is not your own from the planetary mind.

    I never tried to suppress emotions, I have so little of them it'd be dull to try to stop them when I do. Emotions are beautiful, I'm left mainly to appreciate them in others whatever the color of it is.

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    09-14-2015, 03:40 PM
    Hmm. What color is anger, love, and indifference?

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    09-14-2015, 03:45 PM
    (09-13-2015, 07:07 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Simple question.  Not sure if anyone else experiences a 'negative' emotion often and finds it starts to feel good.

    I've been angry for a long time.  Its bled into this forum even.  Now suddenly having fully accepted that I am an angry person now and then, I find it feels good.  Good to scream and shout and rage, not so much hit though...  never desired to be like that at all due to my father.

    But Anger is suddenly feeling...Good.  Like 'its okay to be mad, that's who you are' kind of feel good...

    Can anyone help me make sense of this?  Or maybe share a similar experience???

    Heart You'll do well Smile

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    (09-13-2015, 11:00 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I'd say anger feels good because, of all of the emotions that we feel, it's usually one of the most pure. When we are angry, we always feel it is justified. I don't know if that's the same with most other emotions. Anger is validating. Anger opens the red ray. If we follow the "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate" Yodaism, fear would be the closing of the red ray, anger into hate being orange ray activation. So, especially if one is depressed, anger feels good, because it's an increase in energy.

    Have you read Frederick Dodson's Levels of Energy, Van? It's a good one, and a quick read, and I think he speaks of this. Anger is higher on the scale vibrationally than say, apathy, grief, guilt, sorrow, etc.

    Here's the scale he uses:

    High levels of Energy
    1000 Infinity / Divinity
    700 Oneness, Non - Duality, Vast Awareness
    600 Bliss, Peace, Serenity, Lightness
    570 Ecstasy, Exaltation
    550 Unconditional Love
    540 Humor, Happiness
    530 Love, Intuition, Appreciation
    510 Power, Initiative, Integrity
    505 Beauty, Creativity, Imagination
    475 Joy, Creativity

    Mid level s of Energy
    450 Intelligence, Knowledge, Reason
    400 Acceptance, Interest, Attention, Neutrality
    320 Willingness, Kindness, Optimism, Activity
    275 Courage, Relaxation , Eagerness, Fun
    200 Contentment, Routine, Functionality, Boredom

    Low levels of Energy
    190 Pride, Superiority, Arrogance
    180 Antagonism , Criticism , Discontent, Complaint, Blame
    160 Anger, Domination, Aggression, Coldness
    120 Craving , Need, Compulsion, Unfulfilled Desire
    100 Fear, Worry, Shyness, Inferiority, Paranoia
    80 Grief, Sorrow, Self- Pity
    50 Apathy, Despair, Depression, Hopelessness
    30 Guilt, Shame, Psychosis, Humiliation, Hatred


    Quote:160 Anger, Domination, Aggression, Violence, Rage, Revenge
    With outbreaks of anger (160) and Violence (150) this level controls those below. This is your choleric, your dominant, your tyrant, your control freak. He is much more able to react, control and work than lower levels, but often in destructive ways. Compared to the 80s his self-confidence is radiant, compared to the 300s he has none. 160 is a shifting point for those coming from below; for them it feels like freedom, like breaking loose from all constraints. Hence anger-therapy and violent sports. Hence war. Lower levels are liberated from dullness and victimhood. Armed forces and military conquer and beat lower levels but not only in the sense of having more power than them (a general rule of the scale is that in competition higher energy always beats lower), but by the excitement and energy it generates. War mongering does weaken the 170s, 180s, 200s, but it empowers those that were in apathy. Knowing this we can see the world with more compassion and tolerance, we see that some of this "negative" energy is needed for the elevation of the sorry masses drifting through apathy-hell . No offense to the pacifists, but the macho-aggression of the US Marines along with some of the raging lunatics of military Africa or the angry rants of the religious fanatic serve to elevate the depressed and repair lower levels within mass-consciousness. An angry rant is just what those stuck on shame, guilt and apathy need.

    It's a good read. I couldn't find the link from where I downloaded the pdf, but I do have a copy if anyone wants it.

    could you please share the pdf with me ? thank you

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    12-07-2016, 05:14 PM
    What skewed measurements. All energy is equal discharge of infinite force.

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    12-08-2016, 01:34 PM
    (12-07-2016, 08:49 AM)nilburkut Wrote: could you please share the pdf with me ? thank you

    Hey Nilburkut! PM me your email address and I'll send it your way. Smile

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    12-08-2016, 02:51 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2016, 02:52 PM by Immortalis Vigil.)
    Before awakening I rarely felt emotion of any kind. On the few occasions strong emotion was provoked it left me feeling sick. Post-awakening I feel love, joy, and peace frequently, and all other emotions very subtly.

    As I understand it, anger arises when another being or circumstances disappoint our expectation of how things should be. There seems to be a latent belief in the psyche that our anger will either punish the offender or change the circumstances to our liking. Either way, anger is a way of feeding the ego and creating the perception of separation between self and other-self. When you let go of expectations and utterly surrender to the present moments you will let go of anger.
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    12-08-2016, 03:53 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2016, 04:04 PM by BlatzAdict.)
    (09-13-2015, 07:07 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Simple question.  Not sure if anyone else experiences a 'negative' emotion often and finds it starts to feel good.

    I've been angry for a long time.  Its bled into this forum even.  Now suddenly having fully accepted that I am an angry person now and then, I find it feels good.  Good to scream and shout and rage, not so much hit though...  never desired to be like that at all due to my father.

    But Anger is suddenly feeling...Good.  Like 'its okay to be mad, that's who you are' kind of feel good...

    Can anyone help me make sense of this?  Or maybe share a similar experience???

    There is nothing wrong with anger.

    It's catalyst, and it can be used constructively or deconstructively. I've had to spend quite a long time with this and it would apply to the polarized nature of reality itself.

    Deconstructive would be simply to insult, point out a negative, derride, destroy, break. it would be like taking a negative situation and feeding more negativity into it, fighting fire with fire.

    Constructive would be to create, to channel, transmute, it would be to take that anger and not allow yourself to harm anyone, but instead putting that energy towards the creation of something that would benefit you or others. Some of my most dramatic life experiences became dramatic poems that got me put in a newspaper when I decided to try to perform it one day on the street.

    I used to get depressed a lot and a way I would vent would be to write poetry for me personally. It was a way for me to take the emotion, and then learn to calm myself down in light of the situation.    

    It's good to be angry, anger is that force underlying the divine masculine, and when disenchanted, of course it leads to destruction. However when properly engaged with the green ray, yes you want to express this anger because you love yourself enough to allow yourself to be honest, and to vent.

    From there it gets to your Blue ray wisdom, these chakras are not separate and they are activated in each action of our existence. So then the fifth ray sts would be to point out the negative only, this would lead the other person to feel bad or feel judged, or less than the other person who is doing the pointing out of the negative.

    The fifth ray sto then would use this opportunity in conjunction with the green ray, to be more aligned with the prime creator. that is to create. and not to destroy. to honor and preserve life, rather than to beat it down.

    there are always varying levels of activation my brother. 


    Remember pushing away is not the sto path, pushing away is dividing. while it is in learning to be inclusive, you learn that anger is part of your manifestation as a co creative spark of the prime creator.
    all of your emotions, are part of the experience. Unity or learning that all is one... is learning to love all of those parts of that experience, of your existence, your consciousness. To learn to appreciate yourself and others even more deeper.

    This is the shadow work of reintegration, taking back the parts of your soul that you dismiss because some may consider these things evil or dark. When you understand manifestation you understand reality manifests exactly the energy you put out, and if you put out the vibration that this is dark and it is to be avoided, you only feed that shadow side to become bigger and bigger. When left unchecked that is how people lash out, or suddenly get into a burst of anger, because the energy is built up you see.

    It's learning to manage your own emotions, and ultimately it is you steering the wheel and not your emotions. So you can learn to love while also detached to make better judgements and not harm anyone including yourself. You love yourself and others therefore it is only natural to one to love yourself and others to the highest possible way that you can imagine, and these ideas are simply to get you into the uncomfortable zones. The parts of yourself you may not face often.


    When continuing in this practice, others may try to trigger you by you triggering them, and then you are able to make better balanced choices by not being so emotionally engaged, but rather you are able to be constructive of the matter, to help others while helping yourself, is alchemy! it's turning lemons to lemonade, it's transmuting the bullshit back into light!

    hahahaha =̴̶̷̤̄ .̫ =̴̶̷̤̄ I feel like you can only say this much about the topic if you've done the work. I've dedicated my life to it.

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    12-09-2016, 12:41 AM
    (09-14-2015, 03:40 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Hmm.  What color is anger, love, and indifference?

    i'd say that anger is red, love is green, & indifference is gray.



    i like how anger can be funny at times.
    i often start laughing after i have an anger outburst. but often times it takes someone laughing at my anger for me to be able to see the humor in it myself.

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    02-22-2017, 04:06 PM
    Looking back at this thread...  Anger no longer feels good anymore, ever, not a single bit, even when I'm enclosed within it for long periods of time.  Anger feels horrible.  It twists my stomach, makes me nauseous, makes me feel sick and weary.

    It's just a terrible emotion that I would wish on no one, not even my worst enemies.

    This well of anger I hold inside of myself, I just want to empty it and never, ever, feel angry again...

    ever...

    It is so destructive...I want to be a Creator, not a Destroyer...

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    02-22-2017, 08:48 PM
    (09-13-2015, 07:07 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Now suddenly having fully accepted that I am an angry person now and then, I find it feels good.

    It's when you accept what you're feeling without trying to stuff it down or ignore it that you can feel good about processing your emotions.

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