Initiation / Pyramid Architecture

[Lavazza]

Here is my understanding of the location.

Hmmm, this is interesting, Deekun. But wouldn't this be wrong since Ra stated that the diamond is formed in a plane which is horizontal? In your drawing here (which is nicely done by the way), the diamond is forming in a plane which is vertical.

EDIT: Hmmm! Actually you may be on the right track here, although it is tricky going in understanding this. Here's the full dialog on this point once again, together with a follow up Don question and extra comment βαθμιαίος found.

4.2 Questioner: Does the shape of the pyramid have an effect upon the initiation?

Ra: I am Ra. As we began the last session question, you have already recorded in your individual memory complex the first use of the shape having to do with the body complex initiation. The initiation of spirit was a more carefully designed type of initiation as regards the time/space ratios about which the entity to be initiated found itself.

If you will picture with me the side of the so-called pyramid shape and mentally imagine this triangle cut into four equal triangles, you will find the intersection of the triangle, which is at the first level on each of the four sides, forms a diamond in a plane which is horizontal. The middle of this plane is the appropriate place for the intersection of the energies streaming from the infinite dimensions and the mind/body/spirit complexes of various interwoven energy fields. Thus it was designed that the one to be initiated would, by mind, be able to perceive and then channel this, shall we say, gateway to intelligent infinity. This, then, was the second point of designing this specific shape.

4.3 Questioner: Yes. As I understand it then, the initiate was to be on the center line of that pyramid, but at an altitude above the base as defined by the intersection of the four triangles made by dividing each side. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

...You stated, “You will find the intersection of the triangle which is at the first level on each of the four sides forms a diamond in a plane which is horizontal.” Can you tell me what you meant by the word, intersection?

Ra: I am Ra. Your mathematics and arithmetic have a paucity of configurative descriptions which we might use. Without intending to be obscure, we may note that the purpose of the shapes is to work with time/space portions of the mind/body/spirit complex. Therefore, the intersection is both space/time and time/space oriented and thus is expressed in three dimensional geometry by two intersections which, when projected in both time/space and space/time, form one point.

55.10 Questioner: I have calculated this point to be one-sixth of the height of the triangle that forms the side of the pyramid. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Your calculations are substantially correct and we are pleased at your perspicacity.

Now let me see if I am following your line of thought here correctly as I step through Ra's words. (my words in bold)

If you will picture with me the side of the so-called pyramid shape and mentally imagine this triangle cut into four equal triangles, you will find the intersection (the middle point as determined by cutting each edge of this triangle at the halfway point of each, then pointing to the middle) of the triangle, (THE triangle at first sounds like the entire pyramid face, but it's not) which is at the first level (the bottom "row" of triangles) on each of the four sides, (of the entire pyramid) forms a diamond in a plane which is horizontal. (Your shape is a four sided diamond shape that is drawn from the top most vertex of each new triangle, which then creates the horizontal diamond?)

I hope I'm understanding that right? However, this configuration situates the 'horizontal diamond' at 1/3rd the pyramid's height, not 1/6th.

[Questioner]

Can someone calculate, and then illustrate, how deep this would make the pyramid extend below ground level?

If I understand your question correctly brother, it's already been done and shown in this thread...

You understood my question perfectly, and helped me see that I overlooked the answer that was already available. Thank you.

Uncovering that vast hidden part, if it exists, would be the archeological coup of the millennium.

Interesting that with the new view, the subterranean chamber has a location within the lower (hidden) half of the pyramid comparable to the King's Chamber's location in the visible pyramid.

[Peregrinus]

So then, is the Queen's chamber 1/6 of the way up the exposed part of the pyramid? The part above ground? Does that make sense?

[βαθμιαίος]

So then, is the Queen's chamber 1/6 of the way up the exposed part of the pyramid? The part above ground? Does that make sense?

Yes, I think so. And since Don figured out the 1/6 from Ra's statement about the intersection of the triangles, apparently, it seems we don't need to posit an underground continuation of the pyramid. The question we're stumbling around now is how Don came up with 1/6.

[dandylion]

Did anyone hear about the construction of a covert new tunnel made under the great pyramid. It really urks me they had no permission from Egypt. That belongs to all of us not just them.The world should scream.

[Questioner]

Dandylion, please see my response to your Science thread about David Wilcock. As I mention there, modern news about the Egyptian government should probably get its own thread in Olio. The purpose of this thread was to solve a geometrical riddle about one particular aspect of the pyramid as a spiritual initiation device. Unless the tunnels help to solve the "1/6 of the height" mystery, they should get their own discussion.

[Lavazza]

The question we're stumbling around now is how Don came up with 1/6.

I wonder two things... If Don kept records of his thought processes when coming up with questions for Ra, and possibly some record of his 1/6th calculation, and two- if those records are still around? Maybe Carla knows?

I really can't see how he produced the 1/6th calculation, unless he simply looked at the Queen's chamber location on a chart and took the measurement, then suggested/confirmed it with Ra.

[βαθμιαίος]

I really can't see how he produced the 1/6th calculation, unless he simply looked at the Queen's chamber location on a chart and took the measurement, then suggested/confirmed it with Ra.

That thought has crossed my mind, too.

[dandylion]

Dandylion, please see my response to your Science thread about David Wilcock. As I mention there, modern news about the Egyptian government should probably get its own thread in Olio. The purpose of this thread was to solve a geometrical riddle about one particular aspect of the pyramid as a spiritual initiation device. Unless the tunnels help to solve the "1/6 of the height" mystery, they should get their own discussion.

I understand and pardon my lack of the attention to topic, my apologies to the thread of patrons and discussion board.

[Questioner]

No problem, I look forward to whatever topics you like to bring up.

[Peregrinus]

This video supports our theory of there being more pyramid than the public is led to believe. It theorizes how the water from the Nile, aqueducts, and chambers were used to induce energy.

The Pyramid Code: Looking For Clues To Matriarchal Consciousness, Ancient Knowledge And Sophisticated Technology In A Golden Age

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This is interesting. This fellow's geometry also supports the pyramid below ground, but he also suggests symmetry which we do not see, as well as other ideas.

http://www.ianjamescolmer.com/pyramid.htm

This website was/is gone, so I searched out on the waybackmachine and found this article here.

[Peregrinus]

Complete episode which the above video was excepted from.

The Pyramid Code: High Level Technology

[Namaste]

I watched the 5 part series recently - very enjoyable :¬)

[Peregrinus]

4.2 Questioner: Does the shape of the pyramid have an effect upon the initiation?

Ra: I am Ra. As we began the last session question, you have already recorded in your individual memory complex the first use of the shape having to do with the body complex initiation. The initiation of spirit was a more carefully designed type of initiation as regards the time/space ratios about which the entity to be initiated found itself.

It appears that the initiation has two parts, the body initiation, and the spirit initiation, though these are conducted concurrently with use of pyramid peak angle resulting in the desired time/space ratios.

[Plenum]

It appears that the initiation has two parts, the body initiation, and the spirit initiation, though these are conducted concurrently with use of pyramid peak angle resulting in the desired time/space ratios.

and that would beg the question, what of the mental initiation?

would that just be the conscious self submitting to this process?

and the answer is here :

3.16 Questioner: Does the shape of the pyramid have a function in the initiation process?

Ra: This is a large question. We feel that we shall begin and ask you to re-evaluate and ask further at a later session, this somewhat, shall we say, informative point.

To begin. There are two main functions of the pyramid in relation to the initiatory procedures. One has to do with the body. Before the body can be initiated, the mind must be initiated. This is the point at which most adepts of your present cycle find their mind/body/spirit complexes distorted from. When the character and personality that is the true identity of the mind has been discovered, the body then must be known in each and every way. Thus, the various functions of the body need understanding and control with detachment. The first use of the pyramid, then, is the going down into the pyramid for purposes of deprivation of sensory input so that the body may, in a sense, be dead and another life begin.

the last part concerning sensory deprivation is fascinating because I have been contemplating the Death card quite recently. It all ties in oh so neatly

[Peregrinus]

Anyone know why a majority of the images in this thread have disappeared, replaced by [Image: Ra-GP.jpg], etc etc.?

[Adonai One]

I guess they were deleted with the server change? Also, great thread.

I suggest hosting with imgur in the future.

[Plenum]

yah; there really is no other choice when it comes to image hosting right now. It is free, unlimited bandwidth, and absolutely speedy.

imgur grew out of hosting images for reddit, so it is a high bandwidth, totally robust operation. Not had a problem with them in my time of using it (apart from a very few times when their servers overloaded; but that affected the ability to upload for a few minutes; downloads were always accessible).

[Willis]

Fiddling with the 'horizontal plane' that's mentioned, I thought it would be interesting to send a tunnel that goes perpendicular to the face of the pyramid. The tunnel goes very close to where the queen's chamber is. This was calculated using the base 756 ft and height 481 ft.



As to the 1/6 calculation, some more poking around will be needed before I can give an opinion on it.

[Willis]

Alright guys, I went on a binge because this was really cool to check out, and found some interesting conclusions.

I decided to push this perpendicular tunnel idea further, to see if it would lead me to an answer for the 1/6 calculation. I turned it into a line, ending in a sphere set in the center of the pyramid, representing the queen's chamber. I also connected the chamber to two points, one along the corner edge, and a central line going up the face. Both are at the same height as the queen's chamber.

Once those were in place and I got the measurements, I did a few equations:

1/6 = 0.166666
116.978/611.76 = 0.1915
137.507/719.117 = 0.1912
116.978/719.117 = 0.1627

The closest one to 1/6 was the ratio between the portion of the central line and the length of the corner edge, highlighted in yellow in the pic below.



It's still a little fuzzy to me, but perhaps this might have been the train of thought Don was on when this was discussed with Ra. Perhaps Don made an approximation of 1/6, and we all know how much Ra loves approximations when it comes to numbers

[Namaste]

Very much enjoying your pyramid research Willis!