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    Minyatur (Offline)

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    #1
    06-11-2015, 01:01 PM
    What are the actual rules of this place? I seem to have a problem with rules in my mind.

    Let's say my higher self wants to create a nuclear-like blast within the core of my body. 

    Is there something or someone able to prevent it?

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    #2
    06-11-2015, 01:22 PM
    Physics.
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    06-11-2015, 01:25 PM
    (06-11-2015, 01:22 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Physics.

    Even if my higher self really really wanted to? He has access to the energy if he wants to, no?

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    06-11-2015, 01:31 PM
    Sure, I guess. The problem is that energy needs to be organized and the body can only handle so much. You'd probably die before you exploded. Plus the Council of Saturn and all that, they kind of regulate things.
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    06-11-2015, 01:34 PM
    Really, this is why pantheons exist, to keep these kinds of things in check. You realize you are visiting to a planet of which you are not the only entity experiencing, yes?

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    06-11-2015, 01:37 PM
    (06-11-2015, 01:34 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Really, this is why pantheons exist, to keep these kinds of things in check. You realize you are visiting to a planet of which you are not the only entity experiencing, yes?

    I don't want to do this, I want to know if I'm able to. I feel there are rules but I'm unsure how constraining they actually are.

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    06-11-2015, 01:48 PM
    (06-11-2015, 01:37 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-11-2015, 01:34 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Really, this is why pantheons exist, to keep these kinds of things in check. You realize you are visiting to a planet of which you are not the only entity experiencing, yes?

    I don't want to do this, I want to know if I'm able to. I feel there are rules but I'm unsure how constraining they actually are.

    All depends on how realized you are as a co-creator I guess. Like I said, physics. The greatest rules are those of the mind.
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    06-11-2015, 02:03 PM
    Quote:To demonstrate his yogic mastery, Milarepa performed two feats that skeptics have never duplicated. The first was moving his hand through the air with such speed and force that he created the “shock wave” of a sonic boom reverberating against the rock throughout the cavern. (I attempted this on my own, with no luck.) The second feat was the one that I had waited nearly 15 years, traveled halfway around the world, and acclimated to some of the world’s highest elevations for 19 days to see.

    To demonstrate his mastery over the limits of the physical world, Milarepa had placed his open hand against the cave’s wall at about shoulder level . . . and then continued to push his hand farther into the rock in front of him, as if the wall did not exist! When he did so, the stone beneath his palms became soft and malleable, leaving the deep impression of his hand for all to see. When the student who witnessed this marvel tried to do the same thing, it’s recorded that all he accomplished was the frustration of an injured hand.

    http://www.dreammanifesto.com/milarepa-m...stone.html
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    06-11-2015, 02:07 PM
    Love how you're leading my thought of massive destruction to performing miracles to open other's mind.
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    06-11-2015, 02:10 PM
    As I see it, the 3D world is largely self-reinforcing. As Tan.rar says, physics would be one example of this. But by and large, pretty much everything in the world has as its consequence the reinforcing of everything else. It's one consequence of interconnectedness.

    The grand mechanism of systems-within-systems all relying on each other makes it very hard for any of those systems to behave in unexpected ways, in much the same way one particular gear in a car's gearbox isn't likely to suddenly decide it wants to try turning widdershins for awhile. Its interactions with the other gears mean it's only capable of turning one direction, and it would take great effort on the gear's part to shift those interactions.

    And basically the more "impossible" an action is, I'd say, the more surrounding/interlocking systems would somehow have to be subverted, moved aside, placated, or otherwise massaged for that action to happen.

    Or, like, take one of the most famous miracles in lore, the Parting of the Red Sea. Now, historically, this never happened as far as we know. But say God DID want to drain a sea? Well, the water has to go somewhere. So he'd need to engineer something to happen to the water - say a gigantic hurricane in the middle of the ocean. But hurricanes don't just form. So then he'd need to somehow make that happen, presumably by massaging the weather patterns. Maybe He tells Sol to shift its radiation output to deliberately melt some ice caps, so that decades later, the rapidly-rising heat causes a low-pressure system to form, etc etc... but then, what of the damage to the top-layer ecosystems caused by such actions? Do we just accept that it's going to rain fish for a week thanks to all this mucking about?

    Performing actual miracles would be a serious pain in the butt, basically, even if one had the ability. Smile

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    #11
    06-11-2015, 02:16 PM
    I'd want to do very small miracles as a way to persuade others of the importance of meditation.
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    06-11-2015, 02:20 PM
    Could you describe in more detail what you're thinking about? I'm getting the impression you want to try to throw out energy waves (green-ray?) to try to get others to feel them, something like that? I'm guessing by "nuclear-like" you mean in terms of the energy being fusion-based rather than a fireball. I hope. Wink

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    06-11-2015, 02:36 PM
    (06-11-2015, 02:20 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: Could you describe in more detail what you're thinking about?  I'm getting the impression you want to try to throw out energy waves (green-ray?) to try to get others to feel them, something like that?  I'm guessing by "nuclear-like" you mean in terms of the energy being fusion-based rather than a fireball.  I hope.  Wink

    The original thought about the explosion was more about massive glorious destruction.. 

    I guess green ray energy waves would be a better thing to do.

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    06-11-2015, 02:50 PM
    we're not allowed to perish at a soul level.

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    06-11-2015, 02:52 PM
    I've got the inner wish to be a fierry fire, fire is awesome.
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    06-11-2015, 02:54 PM
    (06-11-2015, 02:52 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I've got the inner wish to be a fierry fire, fire is awesome.

    You wont like my avatar pic then  Tongue
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    06-11-2015, 03:03 PM
    Maybe your S-M-C wants to be a sun (and/or remembers being one) and some of that is reflecting onto you. Although, of course, being a sun isn't glorious destruction, it's glorious creation of the stuff of life, at least as Ra tells it.

    Quote:41.5 Questioner: In your last statement did you mean that the sixth-density entities are actually creating the manifestation of the sun in their density? Could you explain what you meant by that?

    Ra: I am Ra. In this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body. Thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.

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    06-11-2015, 03:07 PM
    I don't think I have a S-M-C so much, more like quite a lot of unrelated friends.
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    06-11-2015, 03:08 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2015, 03:09 PM by anagogy.)
    (06-11-2015, 01:01 PM)Minyatur Wrote: What are the actual rules of this place? I seem to have a problem with rules in my mind.

    Let's say my higher self wants to create a nuclear-like blast within the core of my body. 

    Is there something or someone able to prevent it?

    Your higher self exists at a place of contact where individuated selfhood meets nonindividuate impersonal oneness, thus this is not a desire that it would have.  So, it is like the place right before non ego.  Thus, it doesn't have many personal desires of its own.  Rather, it exists in a state of devotion to its past self, whom it is assisting as part of its overall balancing energy structure to guide it through the densities. It assists its past self by helping it to learn, in free will, those lessons requisite for passage to the next spectrum of consciousness.

    However, if it did desire that, it has crazy amounts of magical/psychic power, it could blow you to smithereens if it wanted to.  It would just never do that.  It would serve no useful function to it whatsoever.

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    06-11-2015, 03:14 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2015, 03:15 PM by Minyatur.)
    (06-11-2015, 03:08 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (06-11-2015, 01:01 PM)Minyatur Wrote: What are the actual rules of this place? I seem to have a problem with rules in my mind.

    Let's say my higher self wants to create a nuclear-like blast within the core of my body. 

    Is there something or someone able to prevent it?

    Your higher self exists at a place of contact where individuated selfhood meets nonindividuate impersonal oneness, thus this is not a desire that it would have.  So, it is like the place right before non ego.  Thus, it doesn't have many personal desires of its own.  Rather, it exists in a state of devotion to its past self, whom it is assisting as part overall balancing energy structure to guide it through the densities.  It assists its past self by helping it to learn, in free will, those lessons requisite for passage to the next spectrum of consciousness.

    However, if it did desire that, it has crazy amounts of magical/psychic power, it could blow you to smithereens if it wanted to.  It would just never do that.  It would serve no useful function to it whatsoever.

    I meant more my unveiled self, I call it higher self.

    My first thought was that I could become some God of destruction and blow everything up and then I thought someone would banish me from this place quite fast.

    Then I thought about a manner of doing the most impact before being forced out and the way seemed to make a huge explosion within myself. Not that I have this ability, but I'm sure if I let myself awaken fully I could.

    But it's contrary as to why I came here, I came to be a better person but it's hard. Everyone get to care about you when you don't ask for it, everybody intrepret anything you do as hurtful all the time. I have to learn to weight the impacts of everything that I do and this seems tiresome. 

    I think that's why I can't go in higher positive densities, I'd be like an uncontrollable fire tornado mirroring things others do not want to be mirrored despite not having ill intents.

    It's annoying to hurt others while not having the intent to do so.
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    06-11-2015, 03:18 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2015, 03:18 PM by Minyatur.)
    Actually the only reason I am repolarizing is because STO entities came to negative densities and changed me.

    Picture that at first I find them funny because they have thoughts of greatness and doing wrong in great ways and so I hang out around them. Then they hurt themselves and I feel bad because I got to care about them... STO entities not staying in their place opened my heart.

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    06-11-2015, 05:17 PM
    (06-11-2015, 03:08 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (06-11-2015, 01:01 PM)Minyatur Wrote: What are the actual rules of this place? I seem to have a problem with rules in my mind.

    Let's say my higher self wants to create a nuclear-like blast within the core of my body. 

    Is there something or someone able to prevent it?

    Your higher self exists at a place of contact where individuated selfhood meets nonindividuate impersonal oneness, thus this is not a desire that it would have.  So, it is like the place right before non ego.  Thus, it doesn't have many personal desires of its own.  Rather, it exists in a state of devotion to its past self, whom it is assisting as part of its overall balancing energy structure to guide it through the densities.  It assists its past self by helping it to learn, in free will, those lessons requisite for passage to the next spectrum of consciousness.

    However, if it did desire that, it has crazy amounts of magical/psychic power, it could blow you to smithereens if it wanted to.  It would just never do that.  It would serve no useful function to it whatsoever.


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    06-11-2015, 05:27 PM
    (06-11-2015, 01:25 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-11-2015, 01:22 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Physics.

    Even if my higher self really really wanted to? He has access to the energy if he wants to, no?

    To paraphrase Bashar; when we incarnate here, we 'accept' certain agreements (gravity etc). Anything is possible however, but is it relevant to your experience / pre-incarnative contracts/choices.

    Self nuclear explosion will be possible, but I doubt you'd incarnate here to experience it :¬)

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    06-11-2015, 06:09 PM
    (06-11-2015, 02:52 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I've got the inner wish to be a fierry fire, fire is awesome.

    You remind me of this song (which I think you would enjoy)

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    06-11-2015, 06:45 PM
    You are all right, but I wouldn't be able to become myself without facing the possibility.

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    06-11-2015, 06:47 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2015, 06:47 PM by Stranger.)
    (06-11-2015, 03:14 PM)Minyatur Wrote: But it's contrary as to why I came here, I came to be a better person but it's hard. Everyone get to care about you when you don't ask for it, everybody intrepret anything you do as hurtful all the time. I have to learn to weight the impacts of everything that I do and this seems tiresome. 

    It's annoying to hurt others while not having the intent to do so.

    There's amazing joy in giving and receiving unconditional love. It makes living as light as a song, and that makes all the effort worthwhile.
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    06-11-2015, 06:55 PM
    (06-11-2015, 06:47 PM)Stranger Wrote:
    (06-11-2015, 03:14 PM)Minyatur Wrote: But it's contrary as to why I came here, I came to be a better person but it's hard. Everyone get to care about you when you don't ask for it, everybody intrepret anything you do as hurtful all the time. I have to learn to weight the impacts of everything that I do and this seems tiresome. 

    It's annoying to hurt others while not having the intent to do so.

    There's amazing joy in giving and receiving unconditional love.  It makes living as light as a song, and that makes all the effort worthwhile.

    I don't know, it feels wrongly good. But that's resistance to it I guess.

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    06-11-2015, 10:57 PM
    (06-11-2015, 02:03 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    Quote:To demonstrate his yogic mastery, Milarepa performed two feats that skeptics have never duplicated. The first was moving his hand through the air with such speed and force that he created the “shock wave” of a sonic boom reverberating against the rock throughout the cavern. (I attempted this on my own, with no luck.) The second feat was the one that I had waited nearly 15 years, traveled halfway around the world, and acclimated to some of the world’s highest elevations for 19 days to see.

    To demonstrate his mastery over the limits of the physical world, Milarepa had placed his open hand against the cave’s wall at about shoulder level . . . and then continued to push his hand farther into the rock in front of him, as if the wall did not exist! When he did so, the stone beneath his palms became soft and malleable, leaving the deep impression of his hand for all to see. When the student who witnessed this marvel tried to do the same thing, it’s recorded that all he accomplished was the frustration of an injured hand.

    http://www.dreammanifesto.com/milarepa-m...stone.html
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    06-12-2015, 07:15 AM
    6 fingers

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    06-12-2015, 11:40 AM
    I count five. The last divet appears to be an imperfection in the rock.

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