Law of One vs Polarity... Law of One?

[Lighthead]

I'm not sure if others here have had this same experience. But, at least for me, why does it seem that the Law of One is easier to grasp than the concept of polarity? According to Ra, the first thing that is grasped in the lower densities is polarity, and then the Law of One. But I tend to find that the Law of One is much simpler and more meaningful. Has anybody had this feeling? Also, what is the seeming reason for this? Is it because wanderers want to jump straight into the denser material without wanting to master the basics (that have, essentially, already been mastered)?

For me, the issue of polarity is such a difficult concept to grasp. And, for me, not only is it difficult, but it seems pointless as well. I mean why do I want to concern myself with issues that are ethical? For me, I want to go beyond that...way beyond that.

Thoughts?

[AnthroHeart]

Sure, me being Creator is much easier to accept than having to deal with troublesome people and try/claw/scratch/drag myself through the muck to achieve polarity brownie points.

[Spaced]

lol, your thread title is a polarized statement. "Law of One vs. Polarity"

[Lighthead]

lol, your thread title is a polarized statement. "Law of One vs. Polarity"

If the title were: Law of One vs Negative/Positive... Law of One? it would look too long and awkward, as well as confusing.

[Minyatur]

Polarity is what's explored in this Octave, whereas the LOO is Universal to the Creator. You've lived the LOO through infinite Octaves but this is the one that explore Polarity.

IMO, the concept of polarity is greatly twisted as pretextes for personnal wishes. Polarity as seen on this earth in the small things is much more easily viewed as a simple contrast inbetween disonant desires.

As awareness grows, you get people who want to build something for others and on the other end you have those who want to build something for themselves. But even then, those who want to build something for others do it for themselves and what is alike themselves and not for those with disonant desires to their own.

We are co-Creators, you can create a reality which you think is best for All or you can create a reality which is best for You. But YOU are part of the ALL and those who create for others do not create for YOU but for THEM, so it's always about self.

The illusion of polarity is actually easy to perceive. It's just the exploration of being self while being with other-selves. Some simply do have self-righteous desires in comparison to others.

Polarity would be transcended when you have no desires of your own in term of polarity and you simply do exist for others to play their own polarity game, pretty much like this Earth is doing. It provides/ressists as needed by other-self and not by it's own self.

[Lighthead]

Polarity is what's explored in this Octave, whereas the LOO is Universal to the Creator. You've lived the LOO through infinite Octaves but this is the one that explore Polarity.

IMO, the concept of polarity is greatly twisted as pretextes for personnal wishes. Polarity as seen on this earth in the small things is much more easily viewed as a simple contrast inbetween disonant desires.

As awareness grows, you get people who want to build something for others and on the other end you have those who want to build something for themselves. But even then, those who want to build something for others do it for themselves and what is alike themselves.

We are co-Creators, you can create a reality which you think is best for All or you can create a reality which is best for You. But YOU are part of the ALL and those who create for others do not create for YOU but for THEM.

The illusion of polarity is actually easy to perceive.

Excellent post. You seem to be the resident Law of One expert.

I wonder if the pure seeking after the Law of One is the work of the adept. If that's the case, then I am strongly drawn towards being an adept. To me the distortion of polarity seems just like that, a distortion. A distortion that leads lower level beings to the truth, however.

[Minyatur]

I think polarity is not actually so much of a conscious choice but rather the living of our own set of desires that we are born to experience.

We are all One thing exploring different ways of feeling things.

In my case, I would say the LOO is everywhere and everywhen. Awareness of the LOO is knowing that you are every other-selves. When this awareness is reached, you can learn about yourself consicously through other-selves because you do know they are you under a different set of circumstances. If you do not understand someone, it is that you do not understand how you could become that person. But if that person is, it means you became it through it's path.

Which is why in the quality thread, I've said the things that irritates you are purposeful.

[Lighthead]

I think polarity is not actually so much of a conscious choice but rather the living of our own set of desires that we are born to experience.

We are all One thing exploring different ways of feeling things.

In my case, I would say the LOO is everywhere and everywhen. Awareness of the LOO is knowing that you are every other-selves. When this awareness is reached, you can learn about yourself consicously through other-selves because you do know they are you under a different set of circumstances. If you do not understand someone, it is that you do not understand how you could become that person. But if that person is, it means you became it through it's path.

Which is why in the quality thread, I've said the things that irritates you are purposeful.

That's not to say that I don't feel like I learned anything by reading all that "drama." I just wish that people would be less focused on the minutiae and focus more on the macrocosm of greater issues. Universal issues, in other words. They of course have to work on their own personal issues first. But it just seems like some people haven't even tried working on their own issues before attempting to dip into meatier issues like the Law of One.

[Minyatur]

What I've liked of it, is that many-ness has the purpose of relativising everything. One want everyone to be positive, another want them to be negative. Myself I want people to let others be without trying to add of their own into the mix.

When someone is too serious, I try to make things less serious. When someone is not serious, I try to make things more serious. I try to mirror things in every possible way, either going along with things or going against them.

That's how I try to live the LOO for myself, but I do not think there are good or wrong ways of doing it. It's kind of always about getting what you want or being denied what you want, so I try to not have desires of my own about what is happening and let my intuition guide me along the way.

You could say that is my neutral polarity. Or as Tanner called it, the middle path.

[third-density-being]

Hello Dear Lighthead,

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For me, the issue of polarity is such a difficult concept to grasp. And, for me, not only is it difficult, but it seems pointless as well. I mean why do I want to concern myself with issues that are ethical? For me, I want to go beyond that...way beyond that.

Thoughts?

"Polarities" are nothing more but simplifications expressed with/by Our labels/names/categories.
In basics it is all about who You are, in your Core. That is and will be your Guide through All Experiences You'll encounter. Whatever "It" might be, it is your job to Accept and Love it.

Therefore I think You can stop worrying "which Polarity" You are of - what ever it is/will be, it will suit You and You will be Pleased.

Unfortunately while being Creature, We have some limitations and "basic needs" - like "matter excretions matter" (always shocking at some deeper levels).

Bottom line – if (Whole)You wanted/planned for You to alleviate “Polarity burden”, You should be able at some point to reach with your Consciousness beyond the Veil and draw Knowledge/Experience from far different Perspective.


All I have Best in me for You

[Minyatur]

Usually I'd think you can access your external consciousness only partially. I do channel things very easily while other things are total blank while I am aware I should be able to channel them. What you can't access is part of your shadow self.

From what I understand, I can channel things not related to my past regarding the All and I can't channel things regarding my past. My analysis of this, is that it permits me to explore a neutral perspective of the All without the burden of past experiences.

The Orion group is one big blank and I do wonder why. They seem somewhat infamous and I can't even get the feeling of an impression of them while I can do so with members of this forum or Ra for exemple.

[Lighthead]

Therefore I think You can stop worrying "which Polarity" You are of - what ever it is/will be, it will suit You and You will be Pleased.

This is something that people have reiterated to me constantly. I am slowly, but surely, coming to that conclusion more and more. And since I don't really understand the polarity issue as much, I try to read as many old threads about it as possible. But I do realize that whatever polarity you are is not something that is easy to realize, consciously, if at all. I've grappled over the idea of what polarity I am and, when I think I get closer, I really just get farther away. I guess that polarity is just something you express as a deep internal bias. I sense that I am in the sinkhole of indifference if I really want to be honest with myself. But I'm not really that concerned with living out another 3D life. If it happens, it happens. More experience to help me evolve.

[Jeremy]

I'm not sure if others here have had this same experience. But, at least for me, why does it seem that the Law of One is easier to grasp than the concept of polarity? According to Ra, the first thing that is grasped in the lower densities is polarity, and then the Law of One. But I tend to find that the Law of One is much simpler and more meaningful. Has anybody had this feeling? Also, what is the seeming reason for this? Is it because wanderers want to jump straight into the denser material without wanting to master the basics (that have, essentially, already been mastered)?

For me, the issue of polarity is such a difficult concept to grasp. And, for me, not only is it difficult, but it seems pointless as well. I mean why do I want to concern myself with issues that are ethical? For me, I want to go beyond that...way beyond that.

Thoughts?

My opinion is that if you are a wanderer, one of the reasons you chose to incarnate here was to further refine this inability to grasp the STO path. Sure you obviously mastered enough to graduate since you wandered from a higher density but something that which you'll have to find is missing within the concept.

As far as polarity itself. Its a rather simple concept. Do you radiate or do you absorb? Do you find that in everyday life, your actions are more for personal gain or to help an other self in any way. It doesn't have to be some epiphany moment where you've brought them to some higher awareness of Self. It could be as simple as allowing someone to cross the street, getting over in traffic so someone can pull out, giving that homeless person some change, etc. Anything that you are automatically doing that is a service to an other self because once you say "oh it would be STO to help that person" it's been lost. It has to be this unconscious and unwavering urge to help an other self. I know from experience when I don't help, I get a very sad feeling almost guilt like that I didn't do something or do more for that person.

Without the grasping of this basic concept, you're basically putting the cart before the horse. Trying to master higher energy level concepts would be difficult I would think without the groundwork being laid. The reason I say this is because if you can't grasp the concept of being of service to others, you're missing a vital yellow ray springboard into green ray expression which will then lead you on up the spiral of energy. 

[Minyatur]

I'm not sure if others here have had this same experience. But, at least for me, why does it seem that the Law of One is easier to grasp than the concept of polarity? According to Ra, the first thing that is grasped in the lower densities is polarity, and then the Law of One. But I tend to find that the Law of One is much simpler and more meaningful. Has anybody had this feeling? Also, what is the seeming reason for this? Is it because wanderers want to jump straight into the denser material without wanting to master the basics (that have, essentially, already been mastered)?

For me, the issue of polarity is such a difficult concept to grasp. And, for me, not only is it difficult, but it seems pointless as well. I mean why do I want to concern myself with issues that are ethical? For me, I want to go beyond that...way beyond that.

Thoughts?

My opinion is that if you are a wanderer, one of the reasons you chose to incarnate here was to further refine this inability to grasp the STO path. Sure you obviously mastered enough to graduate since you wandered from a higher density but something that which you'll have to find is missing within the concept.

As far as polarity itself. Its a rather simple concept. Do you radiate or do you absorb? Do you find that in everyday life, your actions are more for personal gain or to help an other self in any way. It doesn't have to be some epiphany moment where you've brought them to some higher awareness of Self. It could be as simple as allowing someone to cross the street, getting over in traffic so someone can pull out, giving that homeless person some change, etc. Anything that you are automatically doing that is a service to an other self because once you say "oh it would be STO to help that person" it's been lost. It has to be this unconscious and unwavering urge to help an other self. I know from experience when I don't help, I get a very sad feeling almost guilt like that I didn't do something or do more for that person.

Without the grasping of this basic concept, you're basically putting the cart before the horse. Trying to master higher energy level concepts would be difficult I would think without the groundwork being laid. The reason I say this is because if you can't grasp the concept of being of service to others, you're missing a vital yellow ray springboard into green ray expression which will then lead you on up the spiral of energy. 

The bolded part is very true for myself, but then again one need to be aware that each generate his own reality as the One and you can't possibly be responsible for every other-selves. The purpose of the moment for you IMO, is the guilt feeling as it teaches you about your nature.

[Lighthead]

I'm not sure if others here have had this same experience. But, at least for me, why does it seem that the Law of One is easier to grasp than the concept of polarity? According to Ra, the first thing that is grasped in the lower densities is polarity, and then the Law of One. But I tend to find that the Law of One is much simpler and more meaningful. Has anybody had this feeling? Also, what is the seeming reason for this? Is it because wanderers want to jump straight into the denser material without wanting to master the basics (that have, essentially, already been mastered)?

For me, the issue of polarity is such a difficult concept to grasp. And, for me, not only is it difficult, but it seems pointless as well. I mean why do I want to concern myself with issues that are ethical? For me, I want to go beyond that...way beyond that.

Thoughts?

My opinion is that if you are a wanderer, one of the reasons you chose to incarnate here was to further refine this inability to grasp the STO path. Sure you obviously mastered enough to graduate since you wandered from a higher density but something that which you'll have to find is missing within the concept.

As far as polarity itself. Its a rather simple concept. Do you radiate or do you absorb? Do you find that in everyday life, your actions are more for personal gain or to help an other self in any way. It doesn't have to be some epiphany moment where you've brought them to some higher awareness of Self. It could be as simple as allowing someone to cross the street, getting over in traffic so someone can pull out, giving that homeless person some change, etc. Anything that you are automatically doing that is a service to an other self because once you say "oh it would be STO to help that person" it's been lost. It has to be this unconscious and unwavering urge to help an other self. I know from experience when I don't help, I get a very sad feeling almost guilt like that I didn't do something or do more for that person.

Without the grasping of this basic concept, you're basically putting the cart before the horse. Trying to master higher energy level concepts would be difficult I would think without the groundwork being laid. The reason I say this is because if you can't grasp the concept of being of service to others, you're missing a vital yellow ray springboard into green ray expression which will then lead you on up the spiral of energy. 

I'm going to absolutely blind everyone with my blue ray right now. You ready? I don't help anyone, homeless or not. The basic reason that I don't help anyone is because I don't have the means to help anyone. I'm disabled and get an absolutely meager amount of money that barely covers my expenses (the money I get doesn't really, fully cover the expenses, though). My mom has been unemployed for about three years (I live with her), so we're just basically exhausting her savings. We are extremely lucky that when she had a job, she saved as much money as possible and didn't pretend that she was rich just because she had a steady income. So if anyone needs a handout, it's me. So I don't really know where that leaves me on the STO/STS path. I'm surprised I even have the time to consider whether I am on the STO/STS path instead of lying in the fetal position stressed out about whether we're going to get kicked out on our ass. So, to put it simply, my situation is slightly different from that of most people on this forum who are contemplating their navel and thinking about the STO/STS path. Not that I don't do that as well. But what I've come to the realization of is, how I can even wonder about whether I'm STS when I don't even have a pot to piss in? I'd think that an STS person would be more well off. Am I right about that?

[Minyatur]

STO does include self so surely you ought to care about yourself. I wouldn't know if a STS person would be better off, maybe a STS person would curse everyone because of his life which you seem not to do. I do think you have a good heart in yourself but are tested heavily.

I can't speak in term of this, I'm rather young and had an easy life which I've been ressented because of a few times, especially by my ex who despite having a similar life had heavy anxiety problems which makes her life a constant living hell while not having any real life problems.

[AnthroHeart]

What about my heart? I called the police on my mom because she pushed me over the edge when she threatened to burn down my house with me in bed.

[Lighthead]

STO does include self so surely you ought to care about yourself. I wouldn't know if a STS person would be better off, maybe a STS person would curse everyone because of his life which you seem not to do. I do think you have a good heart in yourself but are tested heavily.

Thanks, Minyatur. I guess that I very well could blame my mom for getting laid off (she did something foolish to get herself laid off, but it wasn't really her fault), but I don't really do that. I love my mom very much. We've been with each other through thick and thin. And yes, I think I seriously am being tested.

[Minyatur]

What about my heart? I called the police on my mom because she pushed me over the edge when she threatened to burn down my house with me in bed.

You do seem to also have a good heart but are under heavy catalysts yourself.

[Lighthead]

What about my heart? I called the police on my mom because she pushed me over the edge when she threatened to burn down my house with me in bed.

I'm pretty sure that your survival instincts kicked in to protect yourself on that one. That's not being selfish. That's looking out for number one.

[Minyatur]

STO does include self so surely you ought to care about yourself. I wouldn't know if a STS person would be better off, maybe a STS person would curse everyone because of his life which you seem not to do. I do think you have a good heart in yourself but are tested heavily.

Thanks, Minyatur. I guess that I very well could blame my mom for getting laid off (she did something foolish to get herself laid off, but it wasn't really her fault), but I don't really do that. I love my mom very much. We've been with each other through thick and thin. And yes, I think I seriously am being tested.

That's the thing with polarity, it manifests under heavy catalysts. Like Ra said some STO entity would incarnate with a programmation where they'll have to make the choice to kill or not in order to defend themselves. Out of 3D, they'll all say they wouldn't kill but then by being here can end up doing it.

[Lighthead]

STO does include self so surely you ought to care about yourself. I wouldn't know if a STS person would be better off, maybe a STS person would curse everyone because of his life which you seem not to do. I do think you have a good heart in yourself but are tested heavily.

Thanks, Minyatur. I guess that I very well could blame my mom for getting laid off (she did something foolish to get herself laid off, but it wasn't really her fault), but I don't really do that. I love my mom very much. We've been with each other through thick and thin. And yes, I think I seriously am being tested.

That's the thing with polarity, it manifests under heavy catalysts. Like Ra said some STO entity would incarnate with a programmation where they'll have to make the choice to kill or not in order to defend themselves. Out of 3D, they'll all say they wouldn't kill but then by being here can end up doing it.

Do you have a quote where Ra said that?

[Minyatur]

STO does include self so surely you ought to care about yourself. I wouldn't know if a STS person would be better off, maybe a STS person would curse everyone because of his life which you seem not to do. I do think you have a good heart in yourself but are tested heavily.

Thanks, Minyatur. I guess that I very well could blame my mom for getting laid off (she did something foolish to get herself laid off, but it wasn't really her fault), but I don't really do that. I love my mom very much. We've been with each other through thick and thin. And yes, I think I seriously am being tested.

That's the thing with polarity, it manifests under heavy catalysts. Like Ra said some STO entity would incarnate with a programmation where they'll have to make the choice to kill or not in order to defend themselves. Out of 3D, they'll all say they wouldn't kill but then by being here can end up doing it.

Do you have a quote where Ra said that?

It was in another thread, I'll look for it.

[Lighthead]

STO does include self so surely you ought to care about yourself. I wouldn't know if a STS person would be better off, maybe a STS person would curse everyone because of his life which you seem not to do. I do think you have a good heart in yourself but are tested heavily.

Thanks, Minyatur. I guess that I very well could blame my mom for getting laid off (she did something foolish to get herself laid off, but it wasn't really her fault), but I don't really do that. I love my mom very much. We've been with each other through thick and thin. And yes, I think I seriously am being tested.

That's the thing with polarity, it manifests under heavy catalysts. Like Ra said some STO entity would incarnate with a programmation where they'll have to make the choice to kill or not in order to defend themselves. Out of 3D, they'll all say they wouldn't kill but then by being here can end up doing it.

Do you have a quote where Ra said that?

It was in another thread, I'll look for it and edit this post.

Thanks.

[Minyatur]

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[url=http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=33]33.9 Questioner: Yes, I do. Then from this I will extrapolate the concept which is somewhat more difficult because as you have explained before, even fourth-density positive has the concept of defensive action, but above the fourth density the concept of defensive action is not in use. The concept of defensive action and [chuckle] offensive action are very much in use in this, our present experience.

I am assuming that if an entity is polarized strongly enough in his thought in a positive sense defensive action is not going to be necessary for him because the opportunity to apply defensive action will never originate for him. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is unknowable. In each case, as we have said, an entity able to program experiences may choose the number and the intensity of lessons to be learned. It is possible that an extremely positively oriented entity might program for itself situations testing the ability of self to refrain from defensive action even to the point of the physical death of self or other-self. This is an intensive lesson and it is not known, shall we say, what entities have programmed. We may, if we desire, read this programming. However, this is an infringement and we choose not to do so.

It was in the self-defense/gun thread.

[AnthroHeart]

I failed at that miserably. When my mom turned off the tv after screaming at me for some minutes while I was watching it, I almost punched her. That was the most angry at her I have been.

[Minyatur]

I failed at that miserably. When my mom turned off the tv after screaming at me for some minutes while I was watching it, I almost punched her. That was the most angry at her I have been.

You can't actually fail at something, you can do a retrospective of what happened.

[Lighthead]

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[url=http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=33]33.9 Questioner: Yes, I do. Then from this I will extrapolate the concept which is somewhat more difficult because as you have explained before, even fourth-density positive has the concept of defensive action, but above the fourth density the concept of defensive action is not in use. The concept of defensive action and [chuckle] offensive action are very much in use in this, our present experience.

I am assuming that if an entity is polarized strongly enough in his thought in a positive sense defensive action is not going to be necessary for him because the opportunity to apply defensive action will never originate for him. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is unknowable. In each case, as we have said, an entity able to program experiences may choose the number and the intensity of lessons to be learned. It is possible that an extremely positively oriented entity might program for itself situations testing the ability of self to refrain from defensive action even to the point of the physical death of self or other-self. This is an intensive lesson and it is not known, shall we say, what entities have programmed. We may, if we desire, read this programming. However, this is an infringement and we choose not to do so.

It was in the self-defense/gun thread.

Wow, that quote gave me a sense of clarity like no other. I think that that's why I'm drawn so much towards STS. I think that I've programmed myself to be tempted to choose that option if things get too tough. But if I choose that option, all bets are off basically. How amazing. Thanks from the bottom of my heart, Minyatur. I really do mean it. No cheesy gif can display how I feel right now. Lol.

[AnthroHeart]

What about my heart? I called the police on my mom because she pushed me over the edge when she threatened to burn down my house with me in bed.

I'm pretty sure that your survival instincts kicked in to protect yourself on that one. That's not being selfish. That's looking out for number one.

I don't think she meant it, but she's always manipulating me and blackmailing me and threatening me. I had to shake her up a bit. She's still at home. I can't evict her without going to the Justice of the Peace and filling out complex paperwork. I don't want it to come to that though.

[Aion]

I don't have an issue with either.