What does anybody predict will be the future of this octave of densities?

[Minyatur]

Why do you find yourself bored? I am sorry about your soul mate. Anything is possible.

Well I'm not bored but when I asked my higher self why I chose to incarnate it I perceived boredom...

About my soul mate it's fine, I always knew she would not leave my mind and I always was fine with that. My spiritual awakening started to happen after I lost her but I am pretty sure our story goes well beyond this human life. She loved me but my prescence did not radiate love which was what she needed to fight off her depression and anxiety. This is the third time I lost her but this time she is with another so I know not if the cycle will repeat again. There's just this gravity that I can feel pulling me to remind me that a part of myself is missing.

[Minyatur]

In term of past yes, but I believe I am here to work my polarity bias. In this lifetime I do not feel negative and rather more positive but I try to remain on the edge of both. I do also seek 7D unity for myself and other-selves.

Polarity can be seen in a direct way in the use of the spirit complex.  The spirit complex is that which plunges into the vast infinite potentials of creation, and scoops out the light for one's own use.

If this light (ie Intelligence) is then directed for positive service - which benefits both others and oneself, then it is brightly radiant.  If this light is absorbed for the purposes of manifesting control, then this Light is not shared.  A negative entity is experienced as being physically cold, as they absorb the warmth and energy from everything around them.

What you referenced as positive polarity moves directly into integration and unity.  It's the pathway that leads to unity.

I do not radiate much and would be known as cold by most people. Those who truly know me would consider me a good hearted person though. I try to balance self and other-selves. When I deny other-selves I can feel the weight of it but I perceive it as necessary sometimes.

I do not feel unbalanced but let's say my chakras' opening is very narrow.

[I_Am_The_One]

Why do you find yourself bored? I am sorry about your soul mate. Anything is possible.

Well I'm not bored but when I asked my higher self why I chose to incarnate it I perceived boredom...

About my soul mate it's fine, I always knew she would not leave my mind and I always was fine with that. My spiritual awakening started to happen after I lost her but I am pretty sure our story goes well beyond this human life. She loved me but my prescence did not radiate love which was what she needed to fight off her depression and anxiety. This is the third time I lost her but this time she is with another so I know not if the cycle will repeat again. There's just this gravity that I can feel pulling me to remind me that a part of myself is missing.

I understand. Do you think your presence radiates love now? I am working desperately to radiate love. I can feel all my lower chakras open and surging, even my pineal gland is always buzzing. My heart and throat have terrible blockages. Even though, I have worked through many. I am sorry plenum, I do not wish to discuss my catalyst at the present. Please excuse, my rudeness. I know you try to help. I send you thanks, and as much love as I can muster. I respect you greatly plenum, I have read many of your post.

[Plenum]

I am sorry plenum, I do not wish to discuss my catalyst at the present. Please excuse, my rudeness. I know you try to help. I send you thanks, and as much love as I can muster. I respect you greatly plenum, I have read many of your post.

that's fine!  I respect your privacy, I truly do.

I wish you the best of luck in working through your situation.  

[Minyatur]

Why do you find yourself bored? I am sorry about your soul mate. Anything is possible.

Well I'm not bored but when I asked my higher self why I chose to incarnate it I perceived boredom...

About my soul mate it's fine, I always knew she would not leave my mind and I always was fine with that. My spiritual awakening started to happen after I lost her but I am pretty sure our story goes well beyond this human life. She loved me but my prescence did not radiate love which was what she needed to fight off her depression and anxiety. This is the third time I lost her but this time she is with another so I know not if the cycle will repeat again. There's just this gravity that I can feel pulling me to remind me that a part of myself is missing.

I understand. Do you think your presence radiates love now? I am working desperately to radiate love. I can feel all my lower chakras open and surging, even my pineal gland is always buzzing. My heart and throat have terrible blockages. Even though, I have worked through many. I am sorry plenum, I do not wish to discuss my catalyst at the present. Please excuse, my rudeness. I know you try to help. I send you thanks, and as much love as I can muster. I respect you greatly plenum, I have read many of your post.

I do radiate love when I think it is needed but not so much in general.

[I_Am_The_One]

I understand minyutar, It seems to me. We both walk the path of neutrality.

[Minyatur]

I understand minyutar, It seems to me. We both walk the path of neutrality.

I think that the idea to polarize is counterproductive to myself. I don't have any desire toward other-selves about sharing a one particular polarity, I want to offer what is needed as creator to creator. I seek not service-to-self nor service-to-others, I seek service to All which come in both polarity in Creation.

[I_Am_The_One]

I understand minyutar, It seems to me. We both walk the path of neutrality.

I think that the idea to polarize is counterproductive to myself. I don't have any desire toward other-selves about sharing a one particular polarity, I want to offer what is needed as creator to creator. I seek not service-to-self nor service-to-others, I seek service to All which come in both polarity in Creation.

Beautifully said and inspirational. My main focus, is to experience. Through this, I help other selves, and serve myself when possible. During meditation I will "lie" within myself whilst radiating love unto mirrored selfs.  Well one form of meditating.

[Lighthead]

Again, this is a matter of perspective. The view you are looking at is from 'within the river of time', whereas I am viewing it from outside of time in its timeless state. The octave will never exhaust its possibilities per se, because those possibilities are a function of the consciousness experiencing the octave. Thus, the octave cannot truly 'end' however it does cycle infinitely as the octave itself is a timeless structure within which the illusion of time and space are present like the sound produced by air through a flute.

This is where it gets kind of complicated though. The 'breath' which moves through the octave is that which gives focus to the Logoi. This breath is like an Arch-Logos whom is the archetype and Adam Kadmon of all Logoi and of which all Logoi drink from the One. This Arch-Logos stands at the 'gateway' between octaves and represents each Octave's collective self, the conclusive identity created out of each octave as the breath moves through. This you could say is the note being played by the flute by the Creator in this octave.

Our octave, or the one described by Ra, is, I believe, actually within a greater octave and so the 'next octave' is actually just a step up in this greater or macrocosmic octave. I believe we are within the fourth octave of this greater octave. You could also perhaps call it the "Green Octave". Thus, moving on to the next octave will take you to the "Blue Octave".

The cycle of which you speak is that movement of the breath from the previous octave, in to this one and then on to the next. Remember, there is always more breath coming in to this octave from the previous one, thus this octave will never truly run out of its possibilities because possibilities can exist in an infinite number of iterations so the universe can use and reuse the exact same events over and over without losing the uniqueness of each event because there are infinite iterations or fractals possible. Thus, every experience is always available for every entity that spawns from the breath as it moves through this octave.

Hence, there is only movement forward by the entity towards the next octave. The instrument, the octave, ever remains the same, for it is timeless.

40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the Logos, or sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this. This is made up of frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light then contains the experiences through all of the densities and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which emerges on the other side as another Logos or sun and starts another octave of experience. Can you comment on this part of my statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.

The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.

Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the subconcept or corollary of the portion of this process which is timeless.

What was said on another thread made me think that it's possible that the penultimate octave was where the polarity of male and female was developed according to Yggdrasil's post here. I thought I saw something about that in the Ra material, but I can't find it. It might not even be there.

[AnthroHeart]

In the next octave we might not have sexes, so everyone might be gay and produce offspring that way.

Unless there are no physical bodies in the next octave. I can imagine it's a realm of sexual fusion.

Maybe we create our own next Octave.

[Lighthead]

In the next octave we might not have sexes, so everyone might be gay and produce offspring that way.

Unless there are no physical bodies in the next octave. I can imagine it's a realm of sexual fusion.

Maybe we create our own next Octave.

I sometimes am dying to know what's in the next octave. Everybody is always speculating about it. It makes my curiosity that much more intense.

[AnthroHeart]

Once when I was climbing the subdensities in my mind, I peeked in the previous octave and saw the mover/moved, and I tried then to peek into the next Octave but was blocked by the intense light.

When I peeked in the previous Octave, it rattled my mind.

[Minyatur]

Once when I was climbing the subdensities in my mind, I peeked in the previous octave and saw the mover/moved, and I tried then to peek into the next Octave but was blocked by the intense light.

When I peeked in the previous Octave, it rattled my mind.

Can you describe the  mover/moved as you perceived it?

[AnthroHeart]

Once when I was climbing the subdensities in my mind, I peeked in the previous octave and saw the mover/moved, and I tried then to peek into the next Octave but was blocked by the intense light.

When I peeked in the previous Octave, it rattled my mind.

Can you describe the  mover/moved as you perceived it?

It had an eerie feeling. I saw particles, or as I can best describe them low-level beings just moving slowly around one another. I only captured about 5 seconds of it before it rocked my world and I couldn't focus anymore on it. It was black and brown colored, rather dark. I feel as if there wasn't really any free will as everything moved in a rhythmic pattern.

[Minyatur]

Once when I was climbing the subdensities in my mind, I peeked in the previous octave and saw the mover/moved, and I tried then to peek into the next Octave but was blocked by the intense light.

When I peeked in the previous Octave, it rattled my mind.

Can you describe the  mover/moved as you perceived it?

It had an eerie feeling. I saw particles, or as I can best describe them low-level beings just moving slowly around one another. I only captured about 5 seconds of it before it rocked my world and I couldn't focus anymore on it. It was black and brown colored, rather dark. I feel as if there wasn't really any free will as everything moved in a rhythmic pattern.

Interesting.

[I_Am_The_One]

Once when I was climbing the subdensities in my mind, I peeked in the previous octave and saw the mover/moved, and I tried then to peek into the next Octave but was blocked by the intense light.

When I peeked in the previous Octave, it rattled my mind.

Can you describe the  mover/moved as you perceived it?

It had an eerie feeling. I saw particles, or as I can best describe them low-level beings just moving slowly around one another. I only captured about 5 seconds of it before it rocked my world and I couldn't focus anymore on it. It was black and brown colored, rather dark. I feel as if there wasn't really any free will as everything moved in a rhythmic pattern.

Interesting.

Yes very interesting.

[Minyatur]

Sounds like mass-less particles which would be the foundation of our Universe into 1D where they group to gain mass. Our mid-1D would be their 8D.

[I_Am_The_One]

Sounds like mass-less particles which would be the foundation of our Universe into 1D where they group to gain mass. Our mid-1D would be their 8D.

not to derail, check pm minyatur, I sent you mail.

[tamaryn]

I think someone mentioned it a while back, or in a another thread; I believe the veil will be experimented with; Perhaps even becoming thicker.

What if we lived in an even more dense universe? Further from the creator? What if everything looked less defined and cartoon-ish? I think IndigoGeminiWolf was talking a bit about this.

[Lighthead]

I think someone mentioned it a while back, or in a another thread; I believe the veil will be experimented with; Perhaps even becoming thicker.

What if we lived in an even more dense universe? Further from the creator? What if everything looked less defined and cartoon-ish? I think IndigoGeminiWolf was talking a bit about this.

That would be really strange.

[tamaryn]

Can you imagine our path to return to finding love of creator in a cartoon?

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[AnthroHeart]

Can you imagine our path to return to finding love of creator in a cartoon?

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YOu'd still need some laws of physics or laws of the Universe, else it would be chaos.

[Minyatur]

Can you imagine our path to return to finding love of creator in a cartoon?

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YOu'd still need some laws of physics or laws of the Universe, else it would be chaos.

Cartoon chaos, that'd be great.

[AnthroHeart]

Can you imagine our path to return to finding love of creator in a cartoon?

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YOu'd still need some laws of physics or laws of the Universe, else it would be chaos.

Cartoon chaos, that'd be great.

Like this, especially the ending.