Viewing the World Enlightened

[AnthroHeart]

Is enlightenment like viewing the world as a Blu-Ray whereas not enlightened is like VHS?

Does enlightenment/nirvana/intelligent infinity give you better depth-perception and more colors in your life?
Does it help you to see things you would normally miss?

What about us who will probably never become enlightened? Is there any chance for us to see the world in new ways?

[Reaper]

When you reach enlightenment, let me know.

[Parsons]

The answers you seek are within yourself.

[Unbound]

When asked what it means to be enlightened, the Buddha said, "It means I know what you also are."

Beyond that, I dunno, since the whole concept of enlightenment really comes largely from Buddhism. Other cultures have similar concepts, but the typical idea of enlightenment is definitely Buddhist.

[AnthroHeart]

I believe it's somewhat like this:

[Unbound]

There's a movie called 'Limitless' you might find interesting as in it the main character is given a drug that gives him 100% use of his brain, and later on its shown that it can be made permanent. Would definitely recommend watching that for an interesting comparison.

[Ethernysana]

My interpretation of enlightenment is "everything makes sense"
They all can be summarize with one ray in full activation though: Indigo Ray, Third eye, 6th chakra

1. Your place in the family
2. Your reason of incarnation or reincarnation
3. The people you meet
4. The people you help
5. Where you will go next
6. Where you were from
7. How you see multiple sides of one story
8. How to utilize catalysts that show up
9. How to create and program your own evolution
10. How to be complete and know that you are complete
11. The inner knowing
12. The interconnectedness of one thing to another
13. your other interpretations

Which then will be the bridge to "All is one" or the 7th chakra/crown chakra extending into intelligent infinity

[Unbound]

Will "making sense" ever make sense?

[Ethernysana]

Will "making sense" ever make sense?

Enlightenment is, of the moment, an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by
the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but
only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery,
of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking
process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open
the gate to the present?

Hence, I may not speak more. The previous enlightened ones see that all is one and the end to their own samsara/reincarnation. They also saw into their previous and future lives. I can only say it relates to the 6th/7th rays as I do not wish to infringe upon the free will of you or another entity who may be reading this. I hope my humble attempt made "sense" of what "enlightenment" is.

[Shawnna]

I imagine 'enlightenment' is relative.

To the individual who sees the world as a constant struggle against everyone else for whatever resources are available, 'enlightenment' could be a simple step forward that sees the abundance around.

To the practiced shaman, enlightenment may be spiritual ecstacy.

I think it would depend on your starting point.

[anagogy]

Is enlightenment like viewing the world as a Blu-Ray whereas not enlightened is like VHS?

Does enlightenment/nirvana/intelligent infinity give you better depth-perception and more colors in your life?
Does it help you to see things you would normally miss?

What about us who will probably never become enlightened? Is there any chance for us to see the world in new ways?

I don't consider myself enlightened, but like many people on this forum, I feel I've had glimpses of what to look forward to.

What I have garnered (though my perceptions are necessarily flawed) from such glimpses, is that enlightenment is just waking up, and becoming absolutely conscious.  Right now, you could say we are asleep (to some extent).  We are experiencing illusion.  Now, illusion doesn't necessarily imply something is not "real", but it generally implies the way we are perceiving it is not "completely accurate".  We are partially asleep, and partially awake.  We are seeing both portions of the Real, and portions of the False.

Illusion is characterized by unconsciousness.  The background of all unconsciousness is, by logical extension, consciousness.  The place where this unconsciousness meets the consciousness could be described as "the meeting place between inner and outer vibratory understanding".  This determines your density level.

So given that explanation, it follows that becoming more enlightened gives you more consciousness of That Which Is, so in a sense, you would see more than you would at a less conscious state.  There would be more vividness.

And of course there are opportunities to see the world in new ways!  You are doing it all the time, it just usually happens so gradually you don't consciously perceive the contrast between your prior awareness and the current awareness.

All the blockages of the energy centers, which causes you to experience the grosser levels of illusion are created, surprisingly, and simply by *where* your attention is diverted to any given time.  So a good first step might just being more the "watcher" or "witness" and dispassionately observing where your attention is going on a moment to moment basis.  All distortions are being created in the moment.  "The source of all distortions is the limit of the viewpoint."  

"Any entity may at any time instantaneously clear and balance its energy centers."  Enlightenment is that moment when you cast off all attention to the false and lock your awareness firmly on the truth. 

Our fixation on the seeming appearance of separation perpetuates the experience of it, and all the corollary logical extensions of it.  We believe ourselves to be parts and so we then must have the experience of being portions instead of the seamless Whole.  Our beliefs are the shackles which bind us.

[AnthroHeart]

Enlightenment has a joy of living. Those who are see everything as sacramental.

I guess it's the same as intelligent infinity. I still see separation, which keeps me from oneness.

[Matt1]

I don't know yet.

[Diana]

Is enlightenment like viewing the world as a Blu-Ray whereas not enlightened is like VHS?

Does enlightenment/nirvana/intelligent infinity give you better depth-perception and more colors in your life?
Does it help you to see things you would normally miss?

What about us who will probably never become enlightened? Is there any chance for us to see the world in new ways?

To become enlightened suggests there is an endpoint, a stopping point. Therefore I suggest no one ever becomes enlightened as there is always a wider circle of understanding to gain awareness of. My theory is that everything is evolving including the "source." (How could source not be evolving if we are?) So there is no finish line. Perhaps there are milestones, but "enlightenment" doesn't make sense to me. If you take the root word, light, then you may say that it is possible to allow more and more light into your consciousness and soul. If you are not resisting who you are, and allow the light to shine even in your darkest places, then perhaps you could say you are enlightened here in 3D.

There is always the chance to see the world in new ways. All possibilities exist in the wave function; when collapsed into the particle function there is only one possible outcome. So my suggestion is to steer clear of "beliefs." 

I would question anyone who purports to be enlightened. And I certainly wouldn't follow them, though I may consider their information.

[AnthroHeart]

I think once I opened up to enlightenment of the heart, but I couldn't handle it. It was too much love.

[Minyatur]

To become enlightened suggests there is an endpoint, a stopping point. Therefore I suggest no one ever becomes enlightened as there is always a wider circle of understanding to gain awareness of. My theory is that everything is evolving including the "source." (How could source not be evolving if we are?) So there is no finish line. Perhaps there are milestones, but "enlightenment" doesn't make sense to me. If you take the root word, light, then you may say that it is possible to allow more and more light into your consciousness and soul. If you are not resisting who you are, and allow the light to shine even in your darkest places, then perhaps you could say you are enlightened here in 3D

I would say that the "source" lies in infinity where there is no such thing as a start or an end and so I wouldn't think it'd be subject to evolution. In space/time and time/space we experience the windows of evolution which are the source infinite possibilities of existence. But these windows come from forgetting our true essence which lies in infinity to grow back further and further in your path to be one with the creator. In short I view lessons learnt as lessons rather remembered of the creator of itself just like a wanderer rediscovers here in 3D lessons he had already learnt prior to his incarnation. We are the creator remebering itself as we grow in time and space but the creator is infinite so I can hardly view it as anything else than a never ending quest of enlightment.

For 3D, I view enlightment as awaking to your true self thus ganning back the connection you had with intelligent infinity prior to this incarnation. 

[Minyatur]

I think once I opened up to enlightenment of the heart, but I couldn't handle it. It was too much love.

On a magic mushroom trip, I tried to open myself totally to intelligent infinity but got scared. It felt like I was going to lose who I am, which I rejected at the time. Now the cycle must repeat until the next window of opportunity.

[AnthroHeart]

I think once I opened up to enlightenment of the heart, but I couldn't handle it. It was too much love.

On a magic mushroom trip, I tried to open myself totally to intelligent infinity but got scared. It felt like I was going to lose who I am, which I rejected at the time. Now the cycle must repeat until the next window of opportunity.

I know exactly how that feels, though it was due to schizophrenia opening me up rather than a drug.

[outerheaven]

The following is based on my experience and understanding:

The Blu-Ray vs. VHS comparison, I find, is apt in some regards. Let's break it down further, though:

Take two copies of the same movie, one on Blu-Ray and one on VHS. Both formats have the same movie, but the BR medium has a heck of a lot more information compressed into it over the same frame of time.

Think of a mental state where your thought processes are running faster than normal. Maybe you woke up really motivated, or you drank a lot of caffeine, or perhaps you took some drugs. The point is, your brain is processing information faster than you are normally used to.

The real world seems to slow down to you relative to what you are used to. Tasks that you normally do and seem to require your full attention, now appear to slow down and you can tell you are operating at a higher level. To you, the world seems to be running very, very slowly -- and as a result you're able to do a lot more.

To others with a "normal" perspective -- they are not processing as much information as you are -- you seem like you're running around operating at a very fast, frantic pace. To you, they seem like snails.

So what's going on? You're processing higher amounts of information, jam-packed into the same relative unit of time, (or perhaps "space/time"). In the BR vs. VHS analogy, the unit of time is the movie itself.

To take it a step further now ...

Information, as I have come to best understand it in my experiences, is synonymous with truth/love/light. We reach higher states/densities by becoming more aware, more sensitive, of increasing amounts of light/love/information.

So IMO, higher densities, and in general states of higher awareness, are about receiving and processing higher quantities of information. Time then appears to "slow down" from that "enlightened" perspective ... I would assume until you reach the point that you can process such high quantities of light that you are then in time/space, instead of space/time.

Hopefully I made some sense!

[Minyatur]

Hopefully I made some sense!

You did

[Infinite Unity]

Is enlightenment like viewing the world as a Blu-Ray whereas not enlightened is like VHS?

Does enlightenment/nirvana/intelligent infinity give you better depth-perception and more colors in your life?
Does it help you to see things you would normally miss?

What about us who will probably never become enlightened? Is there any chance for us to see the world in new ways?

To become enlightened suggests there is an endpoint, a stopping point. Therefore I suggest no one ever becomes enlightened as there is always a wider circle of understanding to gain awareness of. My theory is that everything is evolving including the "source." (How could source not be evolving if we are?) So there is no finish line. Perhaps there are milestones, but "enlightenment" doesn't make sense to me. If you take the root word, light, then you may say that it is possible to allow more and more light into your consciousness and soul. If you are not resisting who you are, and allow the light to shine even in your darkest places, then perhaps you could say you are enlightened here in 3D.

There is always the chance to see the world in new ways. All possibilities exist in the wave function; when collapsed into the particle function there is only one possible outcome. So my suggestion is to steer clear of "beliefs." 

I would question anyone who purports to be enlightened. And I certainly wouldn't follow them, though I may consider their information.

Very nice reply, and I agree. My own personal take on being enlightened is basically beimg ready to go to the next level of school. Like you I believe the schooling and fun will never end.

[Infinite Unity]

Love is the propellent and the experience. It is the purpose and the sweetness of being. Why should it end?

[Agua del Cielo]

@outerheaven
"Think of a mental state where your thought processes are running faster than normal"

Based on my own glimpses of these states and what many others reported i would rather say, enlightenenment is characterized by thought processes completely stopping thus allowing real consciousness to arise.
I would considerthinking the complete opposite of enlightenment.

"...and as a result you're able to do a lot more"

Here i would also state the opposite. The compulsion "to do" in great parts falls away. Its mostly a "being".
But i would agree, when the 99% unnecessary "doing" (which is driven by compulsion, mostly neurotic) subsides, one opens up to a much more effective "doing".



"To others with a "normal" perspective -- they are not processing as much information as you are -- you seem like you're running around operating at a very fast, frantic pace. To you, they seem like snails."

One might view others struggling not as snails, but rather see their blindness and desperation, but with a huge amount of compassion. One would also see that for others, enlightenment is just one little step away, within reach, but not looked at.
Theirwould be also a great understanding of the struggle others go through.

As for "time slowing down" i would say thats a good description, it might be that one perceives time as ultimately illusory, maybe being connected to time/space and space/time simultaneously, to use Ra terminology.

@diana
I would say that enlightenment is gradually and comes in stages, meaning their are countless stages of enlightenment.
I would speak of enlightenment when one has "met" and experienced one's true inner self.

I would further add, that having concepts of how enlightenment (although quite understandable) is much less of help and much more of an obstacle to enlightenment. Because it is an intellectual concept which is the very means that inhibits enlightenment.


Btw, i sure am not enlightened