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    Minyatur (Offline)

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    #31
    01-10-2015, 10:37 AM
    (01-10-2015, 07:19 AM)third-density-being Wrote:
    (01-10-2015, 04:58 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (01-08-2015, 05:55 PM)Unbound Wrote: The fool is actually in the least danger because they, in their innocence, are the most guided and protected.

    Ra terms The Fool Card as the Choice.

    How does one get from innocence to knowingness, in making a clear choice of polarity?

    Hello Dear Plenum,

    As Choice is an accumulation of all choices in all third-density existences (and not one, single act of choice - as I understand it), all those "choices" are made with lack of full knowledge of the nature of reality or even of the true nature of Self. In that I'm seeing the roots of the Fool card being connected with choice.


    All I have Best in me for You

    You've got free will which emerges from the distortion of the Law of Confusion, which would be what makes us fools or confused fools . BigSmile So in the end there are nothing but fools making choices in all of Creation (at different levels of foolishness). Without fools there would be no choices, only infinite harmony which anyway is probably the end of the road or the logical answer to many many choices.

    Look at Ra or Yahweh, I could only laugh when I've read about of much their attempt to enlight this sphere was distorted into Holy Wars and other such things. I've thought to myself.. fools (I hope I didn't partake in those events because I would've laughed at myself  Sad )

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    #32
    01-10-2015, 11:06 AM
    Reminds me of this Q'uo quote from a session posted recently:

    Quote:The illusion of time is that which allows your experience to occur within your being. Without the illusion of time and space, without the structure that the Creator has builded for your particular body, mind and spirit to dwell in, you would not be able to process catalyst into experience. You would indeed not have catalyst, you would simply be. This is in fact your true state. You are, period. It is not that you are a human or that you are a soul or that you are any quality or condition, you are a part of all that is. You are an Is-ness. It is very difficult for us to express this concept through words. But beneath all movement, you already and eternally are.

    Since that sounds like such a delightful state, one wonders perhaps why the Creator would indeed create a house, such as the universe which you enjoy, which is nothing but an illusion, or a system of illusions that are interpenetrating. The reason is that about which we were speaking recently, that first distortion of free will. The Creator chose to know Itself. And in order to know Itself, It created, with love and with light, a creation in which entities could examine whatever of the material of their essence or Is-ness that they wished to examine, against a backdrop that seemed plausible and solid so that there would be a believable, self-correcting, consensus-reality dream in which all of those within a planetary system, such as yours, could take part and help each other to learn more about that entity which all of you are or which each of you is. For, again this is difficult to say. While each of you is utterly unique, at the same time each of you is a part of one energy system which is the Creator. You are in the process of learning from your inner self with the help of your outer or other selves.

    The world, then, may be seen as a dream, as a kingdom, or as a prison. But certainly your physical world, though an illusion, is quite solid, quite substantial, and quite believable. Without time, you would not be able to have the experience of consecutivity; you would not be born, live and die, rather you would exist in a being born, dying and everything-in-between-state, all in a big soup. The desire of the Creator was that hope of becoming a fuller, more richly realized beingness. There was a dedication of the principle of Godhead to an examination of self, a celebration of self, and a learning about self.

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    #33
    01-10-2015, 03:53 PM
    (01-10-2015, 07:19 AM)third-density-being Wrote:
    (01-10-2015, 04:58 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (01-08-2015, 05:55 PM)Unbound Wrote: The fool is actually in the least danger because they, in their innocence, are the most guided and protected.

    Ra terms The Fool Card as the Choice.

    How does one get from innocence to knowingness, in making a clear choice of polarity?

    Hello Dear Plenum,

    As Choice is an accumulation of all choices in all third-density existences (and not one, single act of choice - as I understand it), all those "choices" are made with lack of full knowledge of the nature of reality or even of the true nature of Self. In that I'm seeing the roots of the Fool card being connected with choice.


    All I have Best in me for You

    so definitely the element of ignorance is at play.

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    third-density-being Away

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    #34
    01-10-2015, 04:02 PM
    (01-10-2015, 03:53 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (01-10-2015, 07:19 AM)third-density-being Wrote:
    (01-10-2015, 04:58 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (01-08-2015, 05:55 PM)Unbound Wrote: The fool is actually in the least danger because they, in their innocence, are the most guided and protected.

    Ra terms The Fool Card as the Choice.

    How does one get from innocence to knowingness, in making a clear choice of polarity?

    Hello Dear Plenum,

    As Choice is an accumulation of all choices in all third-density existences (and not one, single act of choice - as I understand it), all those "choices" are made with lack of full knowledge of the nature of reality or even of the true nature of Self. In that I'm seeing the roots of the Fool card being connected with choice.


    All I have Best in me for You

    so definitely the element of ignorance is at play.

    I'm not so sure about it. I think, that if One is taking utmost effort to act in Conscious way, the limitation that He/She is bound by, are not necessarily an "ignorance" - rather a "natural circumstance" of particular existence.


    All I have Best in me for You
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    #35
    01-10-2015, 05:07 PM
    What is more natural than ignorance?

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    Minyatur (Offline)

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    #36
    01-10-2015, 05:41 PM
    (01-10-2015, 05:07 PM)Unbound Wrote: What is more natural than ignorance?

    Nothing, we are all born ignorant into this world. BigSmile
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    #37
    01-10-2015, 06:18 PM
    (01-10-2015, 04:02 PM)third-density-being Wrote:
    (01-10-2015, 03:53 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (01-10-2015, 07:19 AM)third-density-being Wrote:
    (01-10-2015, 04:58 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (01-08-2015, 05:55 PM)Unbound Wrote: The fool is actually in the least danger because they, in their innocence, are the most guided and protected.

    Ra terms The Fool Card as the Choice.

    How does one get from innocence to knowingness, in making a clear choice of polarity?

    Hello Dear Plenum,

    As Choice is an accumulation of all choices in all third-density existences (and not one, single act of choice - as I understand it), all those "choices" are made with lack of full knowledge of the nature of reality or even of the true nature of Self. In that I'm seeing the roots of the Fool card being connected with choice.


    All I have Best in me for You

    so definitely the element of ignorance is at play.

    I'm not so sure about it. I think, that if One is taking utmost effort to act in Conscious way, the limitation that He/She is bound by, are not necessarily an "ignorance" - rather a "natural circumstance" of particular existence.


    All I have Best in me for You

    I can definitely appreciate that.

    I think we are aware that the mind is contrained by the inputs that it receives.  We can call that access to knowledge.  There are circumstances  where we don't know all the information possible, and yet choices and decisions are required to be made.
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