On "Understanding" the Law of One

[michael430]

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[Adonai One]

We must be open to the idea that we are not fully aware of oneness; However, we must be aware that the Law is still One and still attempt to see oneness?

[michael430]

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[Adonai One]

Speaking in the general macrocosmic overview. Indeed, you don't need it.

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Speaking on how love still connotes a lesson oneness, albeit veiled. We still see others as ourselves in our capacity to unite with the creation. Anyways, I woke up too early this morning. Forgive me for this rambling. dslkgaslfgndflg;nksjdfasjn

[native]

I think the idea is that for energy to continue moving forward, there must be motivation and will present. When we seek to understand we strengthen the will. Much of this strength is gathered during periods of unknowing.

One can't be open to receive further understanding if we are closed off and not humble. I've found that most of what we build up to believe as being true is actually preventing us from simple divine truths. We get caught up in the eliteness of oursevles. Eventually you come to know that there is a lot you don't really understand, and it's in those times that true beauty reveals itself.

[Adonai One]

Found a relevant quote:

17.2 Questioner: Is it possible to help an entity to reach fourth-density level in these last days?

Ra: I am Ra. It is impossible to help another being directly. It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self, less important being information such as we share with you....

It still can have some relevance in helping another polarize according to Ra, as implicated in this quote.

[caycegal]

To me the key is "understand." What does it mean? Many of us have a conscious stream of monkey-mind thoughts coming and going, and then there is the "veil" (whatever that is - perhaps it is just the monkey-mind covering up true oneness).

[Bring4th_Austin]

I have found the poker game analogy to be relevant to this idea:

50.7
Questioner: Thank you. Can you expand on the concept which is this: that it is necessary for an entity to, during incarnation in the physical as we call it, become polarized or interact properly with other entities and why this isn’t possible in between incarnations when he is aware of what he wants to do, but why must he come into an incarnation and lose memory, conscious memory of what he wants to do and then act in a way that he hopes to act? Could you expand on that please?

Ra: I am Ra. Let us give the example of the man who sees all the poker hands. He then knows the game. It is but child’s play to gamble, for it is no risk. The other hands are known. The possibilities are known and the hand will be played correctly but with no interest.

In time/space and in the true-color green density, the hands of all are open to the eye. The thoughts, the feelings, the troubles, all these may be seen. There is no deception and no desire for deception. Thus much may be accomplished in harmony but the mind/body/spirit gains little polarity from this interaction.

Let us re-examine this metaphor and multiply it into the longest poker game you can imagine, a lifetime. The cards are love, dislike, limitation, unhappiness, pleasure, etc. They are dealt and re-dealt and re-dealt continuously. You may, during this incarnation begin — and we stress begin — to know your own cards. You may begin to find the love within you. You may begin to balance your pleasure, your limitations, etc. However, your only indication of other-selves’ cards is to look into the eyes.

You cannot remember your hand, their hands, perhaps even the rules of this game. This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting influence of love; can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly: “All, all of you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you.” This is the game: to know, to accept, to forgive, to balance, and to open the self in love. This cannot be done without the forgetting, for it would carry no weight in the life of the mind/body/spirit beingness totality.

It seems to me that if someone completely understood the Law of One, that is, they understood the full unity of creation in a legitimate way, then there would be no ability to make the choice which Ra seems to feel is so important. We cannot "lose our cards in the melting influence of love" if understanding of the Law of One is grasped. We can choose to know the Law of One through faith - that is, we feel that the striving for unity through love is a worthy cause, but we don't know, or fully understand, that this unity is the prevailing truth.

Once we know, the choice cannot be made. If this full understanding is legitimate, then 3rd density is no longer useful or needed.

I think the quote Adonai One shared is important though, as it shows that we can, at some level, grasp the oneness of the Creator. I think that knowledge of this unity is buried, like Ra says, as "the mantling of the Earth over all the jewels within the Earth’s crust." We can find these jewels and share them with others, but there are still many jewels awaiting excavation.

[anagogy]

Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

Questioner: That is a very important point. I used the wrong word. What I meant to say was that I believed that it was not necessary for an entity to be consciously aware of the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density.

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Why offer any teaching if your students aren't to understand it? Why didn't Ra open the entire contact with : "You must not understand any of this in order for our plan to increase harvest to work" ?

What I don't understand is why can't or shouldn't I understand ? It makes it really hard to take anything from any of the Material sometimes.

The Ra material is advanced metaphysical understanding, and I doubt that few people, besides wanderers, would really resonate with it.

So even though we, as wanderers, may not understand it, some part of us does remember it. And if we are, in fact, wanderers we are not here to be harvested anyway, because we already have been. We are here to help others get harvested.

Long story short: you can understand things on an inner intuitive level, without understanding them on an outer, intellectual level. You can understand it, and the understanding can still not be of this density, because our intuitive understandings are not of this density anyway.

We have memory overlays of other times, other places, other spaces.

[AnthroHeart]

Long story short: you can understand things on an inner intuitive level, without understanding them on an outer, intellectual level. You can understand it, and the understanding can still not be of this density, because our intuitive understandings are not of this density anyway.

We have memory overlays of other times, other places, other spaces.

I don't have any memory of other places. Though I know they exist, and are more harmonious.

[anagogy]

I don't have any memory of other places. Though I know they exist, and are more harmonious.

They are subconscious.

Ra: [...] This density learns the lessons of love. In the case of Wanderers there are half-forgotten overlays of other lessons and other densities. We shall leave these considerations with the questioner and invite observations which we shall then be most happy to respond to in what may seem to be a more effectual manner.

75.24 Questioner: The answer to this question probably has to do with our distorted view of time, but I see Wanderers in this density who have come from fifth or sixth density. [It] seems to me [that they] should already be of a relatively high degree of adeptness [and] must follow a slightly or somewhat different path back to the adeptness that they previously had in a higher density and get as close to it as they can in third density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Your query is less than perfectly focused. We shall address the subject in general.

There are many Wanderers whom you may call adepts who do no conscious work in the present incarnation. It is a matter of attention. One may be a fine catcher of your game sphere, but if the eye is not turned as this sphere is tossed then perchance it will pass the entity by. If it turned its eyes upon the sphere, catching would be easy. In the case of Wanderers which seek to recapitulate the degree of adeptness which each had acquired previous to this life experience, we may note that even after the forgetting process has been penetrated there is still the yellow-ray activated body which does not respond as does the adept which is of a green- or blue-ray activated body. Thusly, you may see the inevitability of frustrations and confusion due to the inherent difficulties of manipulating the finer forces of consciousness through the chemical apparatus of the yellow-ray activated body.

[godwide_void]

We must be open to the idea that we are not fully aware of oneness; However, we must be aware that the Law is still One and still attempt to see oneness?

But my good Sir, are you open to the idea that this there Oneness is fully aware of "You"?

[Steppingfeet]

Why offer any teaching if your students aren't to understand it? Why didn't Ra open the entire contact with : "You must not understand any of this in order for our plan to increase harvest to work" ?

What I don't understand is why can't or shouldn't I understand ? It makes it really hard to take anything from any of the Material sometimes.

Great question. One that I've pondered with some fruit but with little understanding.

I don't think Ra is precisely saying, "You can't understand what we're saying."

Rather, they are saying that the veiled mind is not going to truly grasp the ultimate nature of the situation. The veiled mind (the "I-thought") itself is the root cause of the great illusion, the responsible agent for the funny notion that there is some "thing" to know or understand, that there is a separate self to get hold of a separate piece of information, or understanding, or experience.

The very premise that we are an individual "I" seeking understanding is precluding us from the "understanding" which we seek.

Can you really understand this verbal formulation of ultimate truth:
There is neither creation nor destruction,
neither destiny nor free will,
neither path nor achievement.
This is the final truth. - Ramana Maharshi

Or this formulation of ultimate truth:
The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The named is the mother of myriad things
Thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence
Constantly with desire, one observes its manifestations
These two emerge together but differ in name
The unity is said to be the mystery
Mystery of mysteries, the door to all wonders - The Tao te Ching

But, again, I don't think Ra is saying, "You cannot be helped by our information or message". I would make a case that there IS great utility and purpose in their message, our inability to "understand" the big picture notwithstanding.

For instance: we can understand, to a meaningful and applicable degree, the words Ra uses. We can comprehend and digest the internal logic of their message. We can *use* that information in the pursuit of knowing ourselves, accepting ourselves, and becoming the Creator. We can process their thoughts to make progress on the polarized pathway. We can refine our perceptions, and improve the quality and depth of our own thinking and reflections. Etc.

But if *you* (the individual you) think you know IT, you don't.

84.7 RA:...it is a grand choice that each may make to, by desire, collect the details of the day or, by desire, to seek the keys to unknowing.

[Patrick]

We can each build a model of understanding of what reality is for ourselves, but we cannot actually perceive the real while veiled.


"...a model is anything used in any way to represent anything else..."

"...a conceptual model is a model made of the composition of concepts, that thus exists only in the mind..."

"...Conceptual models are used to help us know, understand, or simulate the subject matter they represent..."


Incidentally, this is also what science believes about our reality, that our brains are only making models of reality from what our senses are feeding the brain with and that we can never be aware of what reality really is. Stephen Hawking has used many analogies in his books to this effect (like the fish bowl analogy).

[Jeremy]

By sharing those lessons that shall come, could they not be giving us a reason to strive towards this higher level of understanding? The entire concept of titrated learning would be negated if we are to learn all and truly understand all within one density. This construct has been attempted many times with many modifications so that one can constructively and incrementally learn these lessons in the most efficient and worthwhile way. To go against or try to bypass the construct invites regression or stagnation.

One can still progress without being CONSCIOUSLY aware of the Law of One. One can still live this philosophy by being naturally inclined to be of service to others. In this way, one can still progress to the point of positive harvest without ever hearing about the specifics.

Always try to keep in mind that this philosophy isn't the end all be all. Confederation entities made it known quite a few times that this information is only intended to increase the rate at which ones spiritual evolution materializes. One can still progress upon whichever path one is on without strictly adhering to every nuance within this material.

With that said, coming to the understanding that there is no true understanding feels like an incredible lifting of a proverbial weight upon ones shoulders. One can get wrapped up in the why's and how's which could potentially demotivate once desires to remain upon the path since one would consistently run in circles. When one comes to this realization, one can then turn their attention to the more pertinent lessons within ones direct path.

It's kinda how I view the physics community and those investigating space. I just laugh a bit at their futile attempts at understanding the how's and why's when in reality they will never reach what they attempt to find considering they are operating within a given set of parameters set up by the logos. They fail to realize that outside of this construct of locally bound physics, lies an infinite set of variables and potential differing set of physics based upon whatever logos exists.

So instead of wondering why, try to accept that all good things come to those who wait and focus upon what's directly in front of you

[Confused]

Why offer any teaching if your students aren't to understand it?

May be they just saw the need to teach as their solemn duty in terms of balancing out the outcome of their prior naivete in dealing with the population of earth.

22.26 Questioner: I see then. What you’re saying is these naïve Confederation entities had had the same thing happen to them in the past so they were doing the same thing for the Atlantean entities. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. We remind you that we are one of the naïve members of that Confederation and are still attempting to recoup the damage for which we feel responsibility. It is our duty as well as honor to continue with your peoples, therefore, until all traces of the distortions of our teach/learnings have been embraced by their opposite distortions, and balance achieved.

With respect to whether any entity understood their teaching or not, probably their reasoning was based on the concept of not being attached to any outcome. It is akin to something like being filled with a spirit of integrity and doing the 'right' thing in the face of uncertainty and lack of a proper or ideal reciprocal response.

66.15 Questioner: Is this desire and will that operates through to the time/space section a function only of the entity who is healed or is it also the function of the healer, the crystallized healer?
Ra: I am Ra. May we take this opportunity to say that this is the activity of the Creator. To specifically answer your query the crystallized healer has no will. It offers an opportunity without attachment to the outcome, for it is aware that all is one and that the Creator is knowing Itself.

[Matt1]

Ra states they are still learning to become the all and that they still have distortions. I think they are saying its impossible to fully understand the Law of One or unity while in 3rd density. It is not fully necessary that one is aware of the Law of One directly but through a strong desire to be of service to others , is able to make the harvest from 3rd density into 4th.

I would also point out that lessons given in the Law of One once boiled down and basically in every other religion/spiritual teaching can be summed up as learning to be compassionate to others and going within the self. Some people enjoy a complex system to satisfy a desire for knowledge or worth.

[xise]

Given the never ending nature of infinity and the mystery that lies therein, I'd say that full complete infinite understanding of the Law of One cannot occur at least until the end of the this octave, and perhaps not even then. I do think you are able to understand more and more the higher the density.


However, just because you can't do something completely doesn't mean you can't learn from partial completion, or in this case a partial understanding of the Law of One.


Seeking to understand and experience the Law of One as much as possible in 3D I believe yields immensely insightful experiences, if it is your desire to experience those things. Then again, sometimes the most effective way to understand the Law of One is to acknowledge one has severe distortions in the lower energy centers that deal with primarily physical existence; put the esoteric aspects of the Law of One aside and just try a very seemingly non-spiritual way of grounding oneself in red/orange/yellow/green, and then return to the higher center concepts and more esoteric contemplation at a later date. The destination is the same, but the path is different. To each their own.

[isis]

Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

Questioner: That is a very important point. I used the wrong word. What I meant to say was that I believed that it was not necessary for an entity to be consciously aware of the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density.

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Why offer any teaching if your students aren't to understand it? Why didn't Ra open the entire contact with : "You must not understand any of this in order for our plan to increase harvest to work" ?

What I don't understand is why can't or shouldn't I understand ? It makes it really hard to take anything from any of the Material sometimes.

we don't understand - if we want to be "harvestable"? assuming it's possble, is this "understanding" really something we can control? to experience something is typically to understand it

even tho' the Ra say this isn't the density "of" understanding, they definitely make it seem like it can/does happen here w/ "you must not understand any of this in order for our plan (to increase harvest) to work"

why would the plan not work if we understand? or are they saying the plan to increase harvest will work bc we're in a density where full (top-level) understanding is impossible?

[Jeremy]

Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

Questioner: That is a very important point. I used the wrong word. What I meant to say was that I believed that it was not necessary for an entity to be consciously aware of the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density.

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Why offer any teaching if your students aren't to understand it? Why didn't Ra open the entire contact with : "You must not understand any of this in order for our plan to increase harvest to work" ?

What I don't understand is why can't or shouldn't I understand ? It makes it really hard to take anything from any of the Material sometimes.

we don't understand - if we want to be "harvestable"? assuming it's possble, is this "understanding" really something we can control? to experience something is typically to understand it

even tho' the Ra say this isn't the density "of" understanding, they definitely make it seem like it can/does happen here w/ "you must not understand any of this in order for our plan (to increase harvest) to work"

why would the plan not work if we understand? or are they saying the plan to increase harvest will work bc we're in a density where full (top-level) understanding is impossible?

Experiencing the full truth of their words regarding understanding cannot happen until the veil has been lifted. This is why they say that this density is not about understanding. It's the classroom where this foundation is laid. Where the groundwork is began. To work upon the basics of ones self before the lessons of love, unity and oneness can truly be experienced and understood.

It would be akin to trying to teach a third graders quantum mechanics or string theory. Such high level physics cannot be understood until the lower level academics are understood and experienced.

[Plenum]

If you had never discovered the Material, how would you in your life be aware that "the Law is still One" ?

this goes to the heart of how one relates to the Ra transmissions.

For many people, it was like a form of recall, a jogging of the memory; a re-rembrance of something familiar and known.

For Wanderers especially, it is like the crystallization of faintly remembered biases that one has been sensitive and aware of, but not fully cognisant in full-form of what those biases were about (service-others instincts, etc).

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if I hadn't found the Ra Material when I did, I would most likely still be searching for some crystallization of understandings and beingness that I felt inside, but that no philosophy I had read to that point had fully encapsulated and explained.

[third-density-being]

What I don't understand is why can't or shouldn't I understand ? It makes it really hard to take anything from any of the Material sometimes.

As I uderstood it, it is not necessary to have this Wisdom to be Harvested of this density. Teachings Ra offered was only for Those whom were/are looking for this Wisdom. Some it may allow to reach Their goals in this incarnation.
I begin to understand that "knowledge" is only an instrument to properly integrate all that comes from your "I". Its those feelings and your attitudes towards your Self/Other-Selves/Creation that express your polarization (when chosen of course) - Choice is this density work - not understanding.
That's why One doesn't need to "know" to do the "work".

[piceanjoy]

I interpreted this as, if one is living in alignment with the Law of One, consciously it not, they would be eligible to evolve.

[Plenum]

As I uderstood it, it is not necessary to have this Wisdom to be Harvested of this density. Teachings Ra offered was only for Those whom were/are looking for this Wisdom. Some it may allow to reach Their goals in this incarnation.
I begin to understand that "knowledge" is only an instrument to properly integrate all that comes from your "I". Its those feelings and your attitudes towards your Self/Other-Selves/Creation that express your polarization (when chosen of course) - Choice is this density work - not understanding.
That's why One doesn't need to "know" to do the "work".

I think you're right Simon.

Ra in speaking of the kundalini:

"Where these energies meet is where the serpent will have achieved its height. When this uncoiled energy approaches universal love and radiant being the entity is in a state whereby the harvestability of the entity comes nigh."

so when the kundalini is in the heart, then the consciousness (on a default, day-to-day level) is operating on the level of universal love and acceptance.

If one looks at the energy system, and the 7 chakras, this doesn't seem like it would be too challenging or difficult a feat; after all, lifespans were originally 900 years in third density, and you had a whole 25000 year cycle to reach the heart level.

and yet, while the chakras (as a representation of portions of the mind) are able to tap into love (green), communication and wisdom (blue) and the imaginative faculty (indigo) on an almost at-will basis, and all these functions are co-existing and co-operational, the kundalini, as a measure of stabilised consciousness, is not so easy to lift as a baseline level. Most people will be aware of looping patterns of behaviour that have been with us for years or even decades, and these are the patterns that require addressing and balancing for this kundalini to move naturally upwards. It is not to be 'forced' energetically, as that only opens the doorway to traumatic events (traumatic = experiences that one cannot usefully integrate, it is not traumatic by nature).

Our life planning will program these hurdles or looping patterns as the main lessons for a chosen incarnation; they are not easily resolved or addressed, even though our friends and family will instantly be able to share with a stranger what your main 'issues' and 'faults' are.

But we gave ourselves a lifetime to work on these things, and so it's no failure to keep rubbing up against those hurdles, and finding them almost insuperable on a personal level; all the time wondering how other people have gotten over those 'issues'; when in truth, their lives were most likely never programmed with those difficulties in the first place - so they are, for the most part, absolutely transparent to those lessons, rather than having addressed them in this current lifetime.

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so green level kundalini is the key. And it's not the most common state, given Ra's bleak assessment of the demographics of humanity back in 1983. Not only were individuals not progressing to green via yellow, but they were choosing to experience orange level kundalini as a reactive measure to the overtures of the group work and joining that was then available.

Souls of seniority progressed thus:

"The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty."

indigo level kundalini is basically mastery over third density, or what in Buddhism is called an 'Arhat' (yes, I know, it rhymes with @sshat lol), or someone who has completed the lessons of the physical plane. A perfectly balanced being in other words:

"The catalyst of experience works in order for the learn/teachings of this density to occur. However, if there is seen in the being a response, even if it is simply observed, the entity is still using the catalyst for learn/teaching. The end result is that the catalyst is no longer needed. Thus this density is no longer needed. This is not indifference or objectivity but a finely tuned compassion and love which sees all things as love. This seeing elicits no response due to catalytic reactions. Thus the entity is now able to become co-Creator of experiential occurrences."

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to be able to read kundalini is to be able to read someone's consciousness like a book.

[Adonai One]

The last quote is excellent. It really describes the nature of having made The Choice.

[AnthroHeart]

I'd love to get to where this density was no longer needed.

[Stranger]

All Ra is saying is that populations who *fully* comprehend the Law of One - meaning, have full and complete awareness of the oneness of all, and their own nature as the One Infinite Creator - do not make a sufficient effort to polarize.

It becomes exactly the situation Ra described having taken place before the veiling process was introduced.

In contrast, superficial, i.e., conceptual understanding of the Law of One, such as what one gets after reading the Ra material, has the opposite effect and stimulates spiritual seeking.

[native]

I recently experienced some catalyst with someone even when I was fully sure (had understanding) that I was approaching the situation with clarity, putting everything I know and have learned into practice. Yet, some conflict arose and other things were revealed. In other words, we think we know what we're doing but there is always room for more and more understanding.

Luckily, I had sensed what eventually rose to the surface and learned that I should have spoken up about certain things before-hand. The poker analogy Austin posted is most fitting..we're only beginning to know our cards and balance them.

[manniz]

Excellent thread guys. People do such a good job of digging out the relevant quotes. Thank you.

[Patrick]

Here is the understanding of the Law of One that I cling to most.

All is well !