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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Unworthiness and acceptance of self.

    Thread: Unworthiness and acceptance of self.


    Bat

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    12-15-2013, 02:52 PM
    Having contemplated the idea of Nirvana, Heaven, 4th Density or whatever word you wish to call it, all have one thing in common.

    That is in order to reach the set stage of development one must first give up something. Be it in the case of Buddhism Desire, Christianity Sin or in the Ra material self service actions. This can simply be put before i can have X i must first give up Y.

    However this creates a problem. That is to say, you have went from one extreme be it, desire, sin or self service to another extreme of Desirelessness, Virtue and Service to others. This is at the root still based on the deep believe of unworthiness.

    I cannot have X before i can first give up Y. The problem here is there is an infinite amount of subtly in giving things up so it will be impossible to fully do so and in trying to do so creates the thought/emotion of unworthiness because we believe we cannot reach Nirvana,Heaven or 4th Density until we have given up Desire, Sin and Self service actions which as i explained is impossible to do so. This creates an never ending paradox or karmic cycle.

    (I know that Ra doesn't state that one needs to give up STS actions but read on and it will become clear what i am trying to point out)

    Rather than to give some up, it makes more sense to understand, accept and find your own unique balance to the desire in question. This way we have gotten rid of Y by realizing it was part of X all along. The objectiveness creating the unworthiness has dissolved. Now at first this seems rather obivous to anyone who has studied and read the Law of One however i still found myself in a subtle cycle as explained above.


    Quote:The reason it is unwise to overcome is that overcoming is an unbalanced action creating difficulties in balancing in the time/space continuum. Overcoming thus creates the further environment for holding onto that which apparently has been overcome.

    All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.


    From my own experience i wasn't really trying to balance myself i was simply trying to overcome desire. An example from my life can be alcohol.
    I enjoy drinking, yet had the deep seated believe that i needed to overcome this desire in order to reach 4th density/enlightenment. In doing so i went from the extreme of drinking and becoming ill to not drinking at all and fighting the desire. It was only until i was able to find a balance for my drinking that the idea of unworthiness faded.

    So i guess what i am trying to teach/learn here, is that one needs to make sure that your act of service isn't coming from the idea of unworthiness but from a central balance. This can become very subtle and its easy to loss center. So next time you think of something that you may consider to be service to self, desire or sin. Ask yourself are you simply trying to overcome this thought/emotion because you feel that you are unworthy? or are you acting from a seat of balance? Y melting into X. The river doesn't need to be crossed once we realize it wasn't there to begin with.
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    12-15-2013, 03:36 PM
    Service to others means serving your self as if you were an other self. There's a passage where this is directly described.

    You can't do wrong; nothing is unacceptable; you are the Creator. You are love/light, you are infinity.
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    12-15-2013, 03:49 PM
    I agree fully, but there's two ways to get to that point. One is an extreme and the other is a central balance.
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    Melissa

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    12-15-2013, 04:19 PM
    Great read, Bat! Thanks for sharing

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    12-15-2013, 04:36 PM (This post was last modified: 12-15-2013, 04:38 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Is achieving Nirvana permanent? Or once it's achieved can you turn it on and off to carry about your daily duties? By that I mean that I think always being in Nirvana you wouldn't be able to get stuff done. I get moments that last a few seconds where it feels like Nirvana, but nothing lasting.

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    12-15-2013, 05:10 PM
    (12-15-2013, 04:36 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Is achieving Nirvana permanent? Or once it's achieved can you turn it on and off to carry about your daily duties? By that I mean that I think always being in Nirvana you wouldn't be able to get stuff done. I get moments that last a few seconds where it feels like Nirvana, but nothing lasting.

    When you experience it, it is so profound that your initial response is to return to your brothers and sisters in order to attempt to communicate this wonder.
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    12-15-2013, 05:33 PM (This post was last modified: 12-15-2013, 05:36 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I would have thought that if I achieved Nirvana, I would want to transition. But I can feel selfish sometimes. But really if I had that extraordinary experience I would want to share with others. I know that one must face their inner darkness in order to reach Nirvana, and in the past I've been afraid to face that side of myself. But perhaps reaching Nirvana isn't one of my main goals. Though it would be nice.
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    12-16-2013, 07:15 AM
    for me it is; am I infringing upon their free will or hurting their feelings? No? Then I am not affecting or lowering my positive polarity. If my action is not what I would like to do but one i am doing out of consideration, my positive polarity increases.

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