Ra References Ra

[Unbound]

I don't know what I would call my beliefs because I basically believe all beliefs exist simultaneously, so no matter which way you look at the universe you are "right". I think the unified nature of the universe accomodates every possible form of perception.

[AnthroHeart]

Right, so those that believe and follow Jesus, will see Jesus after they die.
Us who follow Ra will see Ra after we die.
And us who believe in cartoon characters being real, will see them after we die.
Finally my dreams will be realized. I hope in the life review that we get to go over every dream we had as well.
I'd love to consciously remember my dreams and how I felt during them.

Thank you. Your view expanded my perception.

[Unbound]

Yes, I would say dreams are all included in the life experience aha

[AnthroHeart]

Ra says that dreams can be polarizing, so I imagine they would be included. Thanks.

[Parsons]

@Ankh and Icaro, Very thought provoking conversation.

Like Icaro, at first I automatically assumed Don and Carla were of 6th density Ra, Jim of 5th density. However, Ankh's words have made me reconsider. It does make more sense that Don is/was of 5th, Jim and Carla of 6th/Ra. Don had much wisdom but I think compassion didn't come naturally to him and he was learning about it in his incarnation. I have always felt a strong connection to Don and feel we have something in common at our cores.

In my own exploration, I originally thought I was of 6th but now am leaning much more heavily towards 5th. This puts a few puzzle pieces that were knocking around, thank you.

[AnthroHeart]

Besides 7th density, 5th density positive is where the party's at.

[Adonai One]

Very few wanderers are of 5th. Such an entity rarely has the "humility" to reduce himself to the form of a animalistic primate.

Through my attempts at searching into the past of others, I have only found three to four such wanderers which includes my partner, Vervex. These entities usually wander to both help and experience massive catalyst to tune their spiritual mass. A significant portion of these wanderers, I've found, often have attempted the path of "service-to-self" and are now trying to reform the last bits of their resistances.

In any case, if you find you are a wanderer, you are most likely 6th-density as Ra has indicated. A great majority of such wanderers on this planet are of Ra.

[Parsons]

I am most certainly a wanderer. I have leaned toward being of 6th density the majority of time since my awakening. However, upon recent self examination and comparison with Ra's description, I am leaning very strongly towards my being a 5th density wanderer. I have very deeply contemplated the issue and more pieces of the puzzle fit with being a wanderer of that density.

I invite you to confirm this yourself if you like.

[Adonai One]

I have. This doesn't resonate with you and I shall not impose it; It could very well be wrong so take it with a grain of salt: I have always found you to be a member of the Ra social memory complex. Of course, my perception into the metaphysical is a continual work in progress.

Let's see what awaits us after these incarnations of ours, heheh.

[kycahi]

You want my honest opinion on what happens after we die?

We get to go over our lives like a completed piece of art and examine anything and everything we want to within it. That means every idea, every curiosity, every path not taken and taken will be explorable and accessible from the "main-stream" of our perceived linear conscious existence as a reference structure from which we expound the maximal amount of experience from the linear life pattern we have created. We will also be able to see every other self we experienced in that life too, as really the whole process is basically walking through an akashic memory. This means we can go back to an experience and not only see what was going on for us in our mind, body and spirit, but anyone and everything else which was in that experience. This is, of course, after the process of realization of being deceased occurs which varies between all individuals.

You could say that incarnative lives are the creation of "holographic, perceptually referential books of experiences" which relates to a primary self and secondary selves in a relationship of One to Many that is the activating and playing out of the infinite potentials of infinity which exists and occurs as the dramas of existence and consciousness. All of reality is a story told by a child.

Then, once we have finished digesting this life I think we do a recap and reconnect fully with our form-maker or indigo ray body which we use as we decide where the consciousness charge will next be redirected for experience, and so the circulation continues.

We agree, Tanner. This existence is "space/time" because we have freedom to move around in space whereas we drift along the time line with no way to go forward or backward.

The other existence is "time/space" because we can and must move back and forth in time, whereas we are limited to the spaces that we occupied when incarnated. The past tense in the last sentence is an unfortunate artifact of this language.

In time/space we move among pasts and futures of our space/time existences but can't do anything fresh, only examine the minutest details with our higher selves and our other selves. We do, I believe, get to converse (unfortunate word--commune might be better) with others whom we dealt/will deal with. These include ones that were/will be "enemies" in a space/time life. That's why we can follow Jesus' advice to love our enemies. He knew that our enemies are ourselves.

I converse with an elderly lady who, several years after her husband died, learned that he cheated on her during their marriage. She gets worked up over that and I let her rant, and eventually she admits that her anger is mainly at herself for not seeing the evidence and confronting him. I told her that after she passes over to the other side, she will meet him and they will laugh about all of that. She says, "Really? Do you really think that?" Indeed I do.

The best feature of meditation is that we, not always even consciously, pick up clues about our other, unmanifested selves and relations with those whom we might love or "disagree with" in this life.

[AnthroHeart]

time/space has its own system of illusions according to Ra.

[Parsons]

Well said, Adonai. Truth be told, I am only leaning in one direction, and don't think I will ever be truly certain until after this incarnation.

P.S. I have also found myself to be of Ra, so that seems like a contradiction to being 5th. This is a really fun mystery I can't seem to fully solve.

[Unbound]

You could have come from Ra pre-6th density.

[Hototo]

Its actually kind of funny isnt it Tanner.

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I mean how do you really describe where someone is if they think they are form*(Meant to write From) Ra in some sense...

[Unbound]

All times are simultaneous so I just presume any density level of Ra could wander without necessarily being continuously tied to their current space/time position. Maybe Parsons was part of Ra in 5th, decided to incarnate and hasn't yet reunited with the complex? So he would still be from 5th if that was his last time being part of Ra.

[Ashim]

time/space has its own system of illusions according to Ra.

How do you think they differ from space/time?

Ra also spoke of 'natural laws' in 4th density.

When Ra says stuff like "what you call a star"...etc. That really makes me try to think out of the box.

It's like our fundamental perception of metaphysics must be somewhat scewed.

Your thoughts?

[Hototo]

Well yes you are entirely right, In that if say a average 3rdD human walking around with flesh and blood going "hmm i'm a sack of meat and water" thought to itself that hey "Maybe on some level Ra is out there" then he is by default a wanderer. That is something most people kind of like, dont get. Not through being magically wanderer to think of that but essentially by a magnetic conversation principle, you go to yourself "hmm maybe I am" and "ra" itself lights up in all the answers across the board that you would get.

Hope that makes sense, Its kind of like if you've ever wandered throughout your life if its possible that "ra" would save you then its by default done because, well, to have that though you would make you "worthy" of being "of Ra". So its odd that people would wander if they are of Ra intently and for years, that would make them pretty high of Ra.

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time/space has its own system of illusions according to Ra.

How do you think they differ from space/time?

Ra also spoke of 'natural laws' in 4th density.

When Ra says stuff like "what you call a star"...etc. That really makes me try to think out of the box.

It's like our fundamental perception of metaphysics must be somewhat scewed.

Your thoughts?

That seems like the most accurate description, it seems our collective "religion" has not coealcesed enough in the right "perpendicular plane in relation to the sun and the plane of the planets" if that makes sense. In that our view of the world is slightly off synch but large enough and steady enough in itself.

Mostly in that the world itself is seen as "non star-trek by default by the civilization at large in both implementation of physical world parameters as well as spiritual world paremeters" if that makes sense.

Hope it does or we might be scewed because thats really the only way I can describe the feel I get.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm not sure how the illusion of time/space would differ from space/time. They say in time/space you can't travel in space, just like us in space/time cannot travel in time. But it doesn't make sense to not be able to travel around in space. Are you immobile in time/space?

[Ashim]

I think they told us a slight lie.
Stars do not give 'birth' to planets.

Planets become stars.

Just my thoughts though.

[AnthroHeart]

I think they told us a slight lie.
Stars do not give 'birth' to planets.

Planets become stars.

Just my thoughts though.

That could very well be true. I wonder what makes planets then. And what happens to stars that become neutron stars but don't make it to black hole. Are they stuck there forever, not meeting Creator?

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I have been through quite a few Earth lives so I have had a lot of human experiences both positive and negative. Lots of karmic drama for me to even out in this life aha

I usually am a dragon or a lion in my anthro form, personally.

Is your, or was your anthro forms third density?

[neutral333]

Why doesn't everyone just do something unique? That way, we can all relax just a bit more. . .

[Parsons]

All times are simultaneous so I just presume any density level of Ra could wander without necessarily being continuously tied to their current space/time position. Maybe Parsons was part of Ra in 5th, decided to incarnate and hasn't yet reunited with the complex? So he would still be from 5th if that was his last time being part of Ra.

Hah, I was thinking that. I decided not to post my thoughts on it because it seemed like it would be a stretch and it would belabor the point. I am quite grateful you did for me, though.

[anagogy]

I'm not sure how the illusion of time/space would differ from space/time. They say in time/space you can't travel in space, just like us in space/time cannot travel in time. But it doesn't make sense to not be able to travel around in space. Are you immobile in time/space?

The illusion is only different in how it is translated.

Think about it this way: time is a kind of space. So the "space" that constitutes "time" is the container for the more "physical" forms of space. You aren't "immobile" in time/space, just as you are not "immobile" in space/time. But your "stomping grounds" may not be all over the metaphorical world, so to speak. Souls generally stay in their own space or "home", but there are some, just as in this world, who do some traveling outside of their vibrational domains.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm just looking forward to the great life review, and seeing all my dreams again. In the dream world, which is time/space, I can obviously move around. But it is almost surreal feeling now that I remember. Dreams have a certain flavor to them. Sometimes they are hyperreal.

When I pass over, I might want to do some exploring, but there's plenty of exploring to do within my own vibrations I had created. I can't wait till I'm on the other side.

[ChickenInSpace]

Your review will be of the illusion and your lessons there, rather than the dreams in which the illusion hold less sway.

[Hototo]

Your review will be of the illusion and your lessons there, rather than the dreams in which the illusion hold less sway.

Funny my review was about the totality of my being which included dreams. *Or last time I tried to review who I was it was hard to do without including dreams anyway.

[ChickenInSpace]

And other times you say that dreams are when we go beyond the illusion and access our greater beings, akin to dying.

I should rather have included 'will be more* of the illusion' to point out that the lives within the illusion of 3D is why we go here and likely forms the basis of our lessons to be reviewed after "death".

[Hototo]

And other times you say that dreams are when we go beyond the illusion and access our greater beings, akin to dying.

Could you instead write out after this how the original statement should have been formulated in your opinion?

I'm having trouble placing what you mean in the proper grammatical context within the earlier statement.

[ChickenInSpace]

"Your review will be more of the illusion and your lessons there, rather than the dreams in which the illusion hold less sway."

While I'm at it I could as well include:

'This is something also affected by the subject (self) as, for example, some come into carnation (hee hee) with a stronger connection to the dreamscape where it is also more prevalent in solidity or 'realness'. Likely lessons associated include but are not exclusively; to live in the now, integration of dreamworld into material or illusory, dealing with separation while having a good sense of the mysteries behind said separation, functioning within the illusory. When we get 'here' we can put everything into context with the incredibly separation of the material world and this leads to powerful catalyst and insights.
My point is that if we would go through everything that is dreams and dreamscapes which we create as review for after 'death', then we could well stay unveiled and just go on creating. '

[Hototo]

I see your point and am content to smile and be opposite to it at this time.