2nd-density past lives

[Unbound]

Awe, no magical thinking?

[Ludi]

Lol i'm sorry I honestly did not mean that seriously, I was attempting humour ;~;
Yeah he does have a very good point, and narcissism is everywhere on this planet, this forum is no exception, but it's not really something we can change or should even really bother changing, the best we can do is to discern and choose for ourselves.
If people hold a belief firmly it will probably cloud the rest of their vision making them unaware they appear irrational, it's not something we can 'fix' all it does when you question their firm beliefs is generate hostility, I just don't see the point. Let people believe what they want, because they're going to do it anyway lol.
Anyway i'm sorry if what i said was rude/offensive, really, my mind doesn't seem to gel well with you folk, misunderstandings are abundant.

[Adonai One]

That's rude to suggest someone was your pet! It's a legitimate point that he makes. Subtle spiritual narcissism does exist on this forum, along with magical thinking (not quite a delusion bc that means you're having a psychosis unless you're using it the way Shin'ar did). Not pointing fingers or anything, I think we all do it.

There's a fine line between being narcissistic and knowing your level of competence. People think this is all shrouded in mystery but it truly isn't if you are able to see the structure in the system.

The Matrix can be escaped with a true sense of knowing.

[Jade]

There's a fine line between being narcissistic and knowing your level of competence.

I would recommend that you meditate on this.

[Adonai One]

There's a fine line between being narcissistic and knowing your level of competence.

I would recommend that you meditate on this.

You are free to explain your implication, my friend.

[Jade]

There's a fine line between being narcissistic and knowing your level of competence.

I would recommend that you meditate on this.

You are free to explain your implication, my friend.

It is a fine line indeed, if there is a line at all, and I just think you would do well to contemplate it, if you are going to use it as a defense for telling others whether they are right or wrong.

I know you dislike vagaries so I will try to be a bit more specific for you.

"Level of competence" implies a hierarchy of ability. I am also reminded of the adage that a wise man is one who knows that he knows nothing.

I am mostly reacting to your post here:

I will frankly say that most people who pursue this work independently will usually end up with a notable amount of delusion. I've strived tooth and nail to make sure I don't end up in a fantasy realm. Faith is not my favorite thing but I've managed to find a balance.

Please use your discretion delving past the veil or at least attempting to.

Most people who attempt it will not be fully successful.

Where you imply that "most people who attempt" to do what you have done will either be delusional or unsuccessful.

tl;dr: I am just calling BS on your claim at being above narcissism.

[Adonai One]

I was simply trying to tie-in to this:

80.10 Questioner: Now, the fifteenth archetype, which is the Matrix of the Spirit, has been called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so?

Ra: I am Ra. We do not wish to be facile in such a central query, but we may note that the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle that the fructifying influence of light upon the great darkness of the spirit is very often not as apparent as the darkness itself. The progress chosen by many adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the Catalyst of the Spirit. Few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the sun. By far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery. Therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a negative and evil, as you would call it, nature.

It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the nature is often not.

Anyways, I understand what you mean and I concede to your wisdom.

[Jade]

I was simply trying to tie-in to this:

80.10 Questioner: Now, the fifteenth archetype, which is the Matrix of the Spirit, has been called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so?

Ra: I am Ra. We do not wish to be facile in such a central query, but we may note that the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle that the fructifying influence of light upon the great darkness of the spirit is very often not as apparent as the darkness itself. The progress chosen by many adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the Catalyst of the Spirit. Few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the sun. By far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery. Therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a negative and evil, as you would call it, nature.

It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the nature is often not.

Anyways, I understand what you mean and I concede to your wisdom.

Much love to you, my friend. I do not portend to be any wiser than you, nothing is here to concede to, but just offer how my interpretation of the vibratory sound complexes that you chose to use in this instance were maybe misconstrued by myself.

Anyway:

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

I believe that "narcissistic" can be a short distortion away from "foolhardy or brave".

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That's rude to suggest someone was your pet! It's a legitimate point that he makes. Subtle spiritual narcissism does exist on this forum, along with magical thinking (not quite a delusion bc that means you're having a psychosis unless you're using it the way Shin'ar did). Not pointing fingers or anything, I think we all do it.

There's a fine line between being narcissistic and knowing your level of competence. People think this is all shrouded in mystery but it truly isn't if you are able to see the structure in the system.

The Matrix can be escaped with a true sense of knowing.

I wasn't particularly thinking about competence, altho that is inclusive. Narcissism is (in the simplest denominator) a sense of grandiosity or perceptual problems around how one assesses oneself and others. There may be issues around self-esteem, competence, and need for power, etc., etc.,. whatever desire/needs that person is unconscious of that is awaiting to be explored.

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Hmm so did I push Ludi to unregister from this forum or something?

[AnthroHeart]

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

I believe that "narcissistic" can be a short distortion away from "foolhardy or brave".

This quote always resonates with me. It was foolhardy coming into 3D where we would risk forgetting. Thanks to Ra, we can remember. Also, thanks to people like Bashar who are always pleased to help us remember. They are always in a state of joy, so why can't I be too? I can choose joy. I call sixth density home.

[Jade]

Gemini, maybe the trick would be to start calling 4th density your home, since it is your home at this nexus. By longing for 6D you can't fully integrate and enjoy the 4D Earth that we are here to experience. You have millions of years to experience 6D, probably only 70 (give or take) left to enjoy 3D/4D!

[AnthroHeart]

Yes, I agree, 4D is nice. Much love to be had. Thank you Guen for steering me in the right direction. That way I don't have to miss anything, because I'm already here.

[Adonai One]

Hmm so did I push Ludi to unregister from this forum or something?

He left for his own reasons, heh.

[BrownEye]

Hmm so did I push Ludi to unregister from this forum or something?

Yes and no. She most likely felt bad that you did not 'get the joke' and felt she did not have a coherent communicative link with us. So, not you.

At the same time I can't help but consider your reaction compared to the 'negative catalyst' comment you made recently. So, yes you.

I may not have laughed at her joke, but I would not have taken offense either. It all works out in the end.

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I didn't take offense tho, it is a bit rude to say 'you were my pet' (I did find it funny)... but I know Ludi (it's a he) knows where I am coming from.

lol altho i did not think it was rude when someone compared me to a vermin lolol so maybe there is something there.

[Aureus]

I will frankly say that most people who pursue this work independently will usually end up with a notable amount of delusion.

Just think of all the supposed Cleopatras, Alexander the Greats and Napoleons etc that are out there..

[BrownEye]

but I know Ludi (it's a he) knows where I am coming from.

I must have this person confused with someone in Fort Collins.

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lol altho i did not think it was rude when someone compared me to a vermin lolol so maybe there is something there.

Wow, never saw that one.

[Adonai One]

I will frankly say that most people who pursue this work independently will usually end up with a notable amount of delusion.

Just think of all the supposed Cleopatras, Alexander the Greats and Napoleons etc that are out there..

Heh, ironically the latter two will be on a 4th-density negative planet soon.

[Unbound]

Hummm... so many sides, yet each purports to know the side of the other. Interesting, and amusing. Much love to you all.

There is ever the truth, that which is actually happening and what has actually happened. Humans are interesting with their perceptions and skepticisms and faith. A bizarre dance we are doing.

[reeay]

Hummm... so many sides, yet each purports to know the side of the other. Interesting, and amusing. Much love to you all.

There is ever the truth, that which is actually happening and what has actually happened. Humans are interesting with their perceptions and skepticisms and faith. A bizarre dance we are doing.

What is the context of your comment?

[Unbound]

An observance of observance.