Interesting Mars rock thingy

[zenmaster]

What is this formation on the Mars rock?:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/...1_DXXX.jpg
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/...1_DXXX.jpg

[AndresOr]

I also find out to be very interesting seeing a picture of another planet this close, it looks so similar, very mind blowing.

[Sagittarius]

Looks like a tiny metal thing sticking out of the ground. Do they say what it's suspected to be ?

[zenmaster]

Hard to tell what it is. Looks like something projecting up from the rock on a stalk, with two shiny cups, right? Looks out of place. But viewed up close it may actually be something on the rock behind. No apparent interest by media, so prob not anything worth further investigation.

[GentleReckoning]

The rocks also look like suspiciously shaped flat slabs.

[Ens Entium]

Not sure if it's something from the rock behind because it looks like it has its own shadow, sticking out from the main blob.

Looks like the head of a tap to me.

[zenmaster]

The rocks also look like suspiciously shaped flat slabs.

flat, but why suspicious? Are you a geologist?

[Cyan]

Ahh, must be where they shot the Kirk VS green alien fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM Must be where Kirks Phazor ended up.

Anyone sitll taking the mars probe seriously after that plastic wrapper incident? Good luck with it. If you are that gullible I got a nice piece of the moon to sell you.

[Ens Entium]

Anyone sitll taking the mars probe seriously after that plastic wrapper incident? Good luck with it. If you are that gullible I got a nice piece of the moon to sell you.

Plastic wrapper incident?

[Ashim]

An interesting 'lifeform' looking object was explained away as plastic wrapping from the booster during landing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1klQj2S20AI

This is also good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06H_03vVKk

[Cyan]

http://www.universetoday.com/97798/shiny...n-plastic/

I'm betting that the Mojave desert and the Australian outbacks do have a few pieces of plastic strewn about here and there.

Either way, it maybe on Mars, or it maybe on Australia, to take NASA's word for anything is idiotic, to take the US governments word for anything is even more idiotic.

I'll believe its on Mars when I walk next to it and can poke it with my finger. Until then its in the same category as Al'qaid and area 51. May or may not be real or on this planet. In the end, probably invented by a bearded white guy somewhere.

[Ashim]

I think NASA are fine. If you are perceptive there is 'disclosure' everywhere. I think this is done very well to preserve plausible deniability.

[Cyan]

Ofcourse there is disclosure everywhere. NASA in general is quite a long distance away from being "fine". The average operaters are certainly fine, but when we have a space program that publically laughs and tries to discredit ET contacts and SETI we have a huge freaking problem.

Or do you think that NASA is doing a good job cataloguing UFO contacts, Supporting SETI or doing anything worth while about all the crap they've been accused of pulling off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY-VWFx4yEU

LOL at NASA being fine.

[Ashim]

Or do you think that NASA is doing a good job cataloguing UFO contacts, Supporting SETI or doing anything worth while about all the crap they've been accused of pulling off.

Depends on your perspective. I think they do a good job.

[Cyan]

Alright then, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think they are doing, like most governments on earth and government related factions and groups on earth. A piss poor job that wouldnt be fit to clean the shoes of someone actually interested in science.

[Ashim]

I got to fly from the UK to Florida twice as a child especially to visit Cape Canaveral.
It blew me away and got me really into space travel, sci-fi etc.
I'm not saying that there are no covert agendas at NASA but just that the job they do is fine and in line with what is required from them to perform.
Why so angry Cyan?

[Cyan]

Why so denialy Ashim?

I've played and been interested in space and space related games since I was 3. Don't need Cape Canaveral to be interested in space.

And I'm not interested in specific hidden agendas in NASA. I'm interested on how anyone with a consience can say the that the current governments on a global scale, or their subsidiary companies such as NASA or DED are doing a good job.

Just because they manage to launch probes in 40 years with 2 measly space stations and one suspect moon mission (to clarify, mission isnt 1 launch, its one objective, get to moon on a PR stunt is one mission, build ISS is one mission, build skylab is one mission, build GPS network is one mission, if you go to the store to get groceries you dont say that you did 40 different things on the way if you bought 20 different products 2 of each) doesnt make them a succesful agency, in fact, compared to what we could do with NASA or what we could, as a planet, do with one self respecting space agency. It just makes me cry to see these scientific illiterates launch tincans into orbit.

Why exactly they are so illiterate and mismanaging in their space program is a topic all on its own, which I would be happy to post, but is so far outside of the LOO material as to not be something I'd do. If you really want I'd be glad to post it for public discussion but only if its within the range of accepted topics. I have a history of going outside of those and being warned for it so i prefer to keep my comments short and in topic.

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Also, please dont mistake my sadness for the common state of human inadequacy and illiteracy in the face of what is going on as anger. I maybe straight forward and to the point when i feel its needed but its not the same as anger.

[Ashim]

Their job has also been to hide things from people.
Here they were quite good and got many a bit pissed off.

[Cyan]

Funny, I was under the impression that NASA job has been to explore space, and the Government job has been to coordinate actions between private groups that cant coordinate their actions due to geographic differences or language barries.

Silly me.

EDIT: or is the crux of the argument here that you think it is the government / nasa's job to hide things from us.

If so then I feel doubly sad for the world "you/me" or "this aspect of the self" lives in. The fundemental job of government is to act as a mediator between groups, that is, to govern disputes, to arbiter. Not to lie or hide things from those they arbiter or govern. And / or NASA's job is to hide alien contacts, since when? Or is the real argument here that all higher ups are supposed to lie to us to keep us in the dark? If so then what kind of higher ups do you/we have? The bad type in my opinion.

Anyway. My opinion is that governments are meant to govern, not to lie, and NASA is meant to study space (internal and external) and not lie about it, pathologically to everyone at all times.

I think NASA is doing a job that grades somewhere between poor and disasterous and the US gov is doing a job somewhere between disasterous and mass extinction level event.

[Ashim]

I had this dream, it went just like this...."Baby blue sky on Mars".

[Cyan]

I had this dream, it went just like this...."Baby blue sky on Mars".

Thats a dream I intend to make reality over the course of time and life willing.

[Ashim]

Many of us from the Command decended to Mars after Maldeks destruction by Nibiru.
These have been unpleasant memories for most.
We also long for the return of the blue sky.

[Cyan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVty9rD4X-o =)

[Ashim]

I promise to return to the mars thingy in the OP but here is Ms. Mainzer from NASA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWT66OtVKuk

[Cyan]

For the record. The one that that NASA is doing phenomenally well is space based telescopes.

[native]

The fundemental job of government is to act as a mediator between groups, that is, to govern disputes, to arbiter. Not to lie or hide things from those they arbiter or govern.

You can't look at it that way. Society at large is a distortion of a distortion of a distortion of a.............

If anything, we could say it's symbolic of the things we hide from each other..namely our true feelings towards one another, unresolved conflict (feuds), cheating/affairs, backstabbing, lying, etc.

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An interesting formation by the way.

[Cyan]

The fundemental job of government is to act as a mediator between groups, that is, to govern disputes, to arbiter. Not to lie or hide things from those they arbiter or govern.

You can't look at it that way. Society at large is a distortion of a distortion of a distortion of a.............

If anything, we could say it's symbolic of the things we hide from each other..namely our true feelings towards one another, unresolved conflict (feuds), cheating/affairs, backstabbing, lying, etc.

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An interesting formation by the way.

I can look at it any way I want, that's free will.

You can also look at it any way you want. But I see government as an external version of the blue ray and our external selves as the green ray.

Blue ray (government) shifts through green ray (people) complaints until all people complaints vanish and planet (social memory complex (6th D) forms as a singular whole.

How do you choose to use your discernment to value the groups around you and what their relatives roles with each other is, is up to you, but please respect free well and dont in jest deny me the right to look at it any way I want, unless you want your government to try to deny you the right to look at things the way you want, oh wait, government already does that, funny isnt it, karma.

[Aaron]

It's probably an earth-born chunk of space debris that fell down and impaled itself into the rock, making it all the way down because there's pretty much no atmosphere on Mars. Or as Ashim mentioned, it could be a part of the lander/rover that broke off from when it descended that pretty much did the same thing.

Otherwise it totally looks like a finger of a native Martian.

[native]

How do you choose to use your discernment to value the groups around you and what their relatives roles with each other is, is up to you, but please respect free well and dont in jest deny me the right to look at it any way I want, unless you want your government to try to deny you the right to look at things the way you want, oh wait, government already does that, funny isnt it, karma.

Easy. I figured I should have edited that first sentence.

All the information is available for those who choose to seek it. I'd personally say keeping the lid on certain things is a service to those who aren't ready. But this has been discussed endlessly on here.

[Cyan]

I believe teaching children to lie is a bad thing, but thats not really here or there for the debate of if NASA is doing a good job or not. But, we all have a right to our opinions .