planetary conciousness, wanderers,pain

[norral]

it has taken me a long time to learn this and i really havent integrated it yet but the conciousness of this planet is not that high. the basic approach here is to accumulate, exploit, dominate and basically use others and the planet itself for your own advantage.
coming here as wanderers we came from a conciousness of equality, sharing, abundance and peace. so without a doubt this planet is going to be painful for us very painful. i can remember as a kid looking at the civil rights struggle in the south and saying how can people treat other people like that. im from new york city so we werent experiencing anything like that. then looking at the history of this country and what was done to indians and africans it was essentially incomprehensible for me. the american indian population went from 13000000 to 100000 which is essentially genocide. and it has happened other places around the world its just that i happen to know the history of the united states better. but the general theme of the planet as a whole is one of exploitation, war , domination, murder. i mean i dont consider a pilot flying 50000 ft over vietnam dropping bombs on the people a hero, not in my book. he is a tool of the system of oppression in my eyes.
bottom line as wanderers u are going to feel pain here as this planet is so foreign to us its not funny . it is almost inevitable, seeing the poverty and the suffering to not empathize and feel and pain. and if u are an empath as many of us are, well amp it up 100 times or more. i often wonder how people can be so oblivious and noncaring about the suffering of others but it is the conciousness. sigh , this is the mission that we volunteered for. and we must be about our business.

norral

post script - funny thing just happened here as soon as i finished the post i got a package, on a sunday which never happens. it was a bunch of flower essences focusing on opening the heart and the higher chakras and integrating the energy of the lower chakras into the higher chakras ha ha . message form the universe ?

[Karl]

Suffering often times bring into our awareness our weaknesses, allowing us the opportunity to choose strength/wisdom in it's place.

[reeay]

post script - funny thing just happened here as soon as i finished the post i got a package, on a sunday which never happens. it was a bunch of flower essences focusing on opening the heart and the higher chakras and integrating the energy of the lower chakras into the higher chakras ha ha . message form the universe ?

What does this mean for you?

[norral]

i think it means integration which is my great struggle. i find it extremely hard to accept suffering but as was said in chat last night integrating the two polarities is where we gain our freedom. and that's what these particular essences are all about -integration of the lower chakras with the higher ones. so i have gotten better but i doubt that i will ever feel at home on this orb. there is just so much not love , unawareness, jealousy etc etc that ill put it like this, its hard to be totally relaxed i guess and trusting . that why a place like the forums where u can let your hair down is nice. not that the world never invades here either, we are human and sometimes things pop up. but there is a lot of love here. total vulnerability and openness was the condition many of us existed in before this, so all the hidden b.s. that occurs here is foreign. last night there was a documentary on tv from the vietnam era where american troops were throwing the body of dead vietnamese children into a ditch. i mean like wt hell. so many dehumanizing things have occured on this planet it is not funny. i am still affected by the suffering of vietnam and think it is something we have still not really addressed after all of these years. sad i would say but then Ra says we are brothers and sisters of sorrow. so the conciousness here is of sts , self absortion, bullying, ridicule, me me me we dont fit into it. sorry to go on a rant here but the only issue for me is the suffering of this planet. everything else to me is total b.s. and while i dont fit no one can say i dont care ha ha . and i was sent here to care as we all were. again sorry for the rant.
just one last thing here. i dont know if u ever saw the movie sophies choice with meryl streep and kevin klein. she played a jewish mother who had two little children a boy and a girl. while they were being loaded on the train to go to a concentration camp a german officer came over and made her chose between her little boy and little girl as to which one would go on the train with her and which one would be seperated from her and lost to her forever. this piece of garbage did this with a smile on his face . this so infuriated me that i left the movie and wanted to punch the first german i met in the face ha ha. later on meryl and kevin klein both committed suicide because they could never recover from the sadness of what this world had done to them. that sadly is the conciousness of this world, this is what the creator asks us to integrate and i struggle greatly with it .

norral

[zenmaster]

norral, do you not feel a responsibility to make this 'suffering' idea of yours conscious?

[reeay]

I think we've all experienced emotional suffering in our lives - it's an open wound. Every time something negative happens in our world or in our personal lives, we unconsciously (or consciously) hit this wound, thus re-opening the wound. And so when we heal our wounds, the negativity of the world could become less painful.

You are (to me) a caring, compassionate, sensitive, and empathic person with a spark of fire - protective of self/others when you sense injustice occurring. I kind of thought, too, that you took on the responsible-for-the world/protector role.

[norral]

zen i feel a need to point out at times what the heck is going on on this planet. i mean so much stuff is occurring that we , the human race ignore. i find that most people dont really care. if enuf of us cared the world would change. and i have noticed in this time frame , especially since 11-11-11 i have become more outspoken. something has changed and the vibes that are coming in are forcing in a sense things to happen. so some people go off the deep end and commit mass murder and some may be more of an activist or some may become more outspoken. but something is no doubt changed and changing us at the same time. i find my passion and my need to express that has increased over the past year. and i also notice i get energy images of people of the energy that they are radiating. which goes way beyond the words they are using. so i have become more sensitive to others energy and i was already sensitive enuf ha ha.
rie, yes i definitely feel that protector thing going on no doubt. i have never liked bullies of any kind and even less so right now. and this planet is run by bullies who push the human race around and feel that they own us. which i find horribly arrogant. and then u have the creator ha ha, like u said last night what question u would ask the creator would be " how could u have been so apathetic to our suffering" so now i neither like or dislike the creator any more . i kind of dont care about the creator anymore . if he/she/it decides to help fine if not fine it doesnt matter because it doesnt seem to really care at least not to me. whew. ive just poured out my heart here . what i would love to see more than anything else is 15 million people march on washington d.c. and demand real change not this b.s. that they feed us. so many people that they couldnt possibly ignore it. so many people that they would actually become scared that they might have to suffer some consequences for their actions and atrocities they have committed. that to me would be the kind of change i personally am looking for. am i expecting too much. i dont think so why should i expect anything less. i hope the vibes get more intense and make this planet really uncomfortable. lets stir the pot here turn up the fire . the civil rights movement came about because people said we are not taking this crap any more. and we will get our human rights when we stand up, throw off our chains , and demand our rights as sovereign human beings. so the battle i believe is joined . i expect the polarities to get stronger and stronger, those who are of love will become more loving and those who are of hate will become more hateful. it will be very very clear where a person is coming from they wont be able to hide it anymore. and i actually expect a split to occur which is something that hasnt happened before in human history. a split in the conciousnesses. some expect people who are monster to suddenly change i dont think so i believe they will become more monstrous. and others will become more loving. and at some point the split will occur and we will have our planet and they will have their planet. and that would be divine justice i would think

norral

[norral]

interesting thing happened to me while i was doing my last post. i had taken those essences i got and i got a flash. it said a new earth is coming into being. the way i interpret it is an actual new physical earth is coming into being with new rules . an earth of freedom for those who have love in their hearts. for the others they will have their planet too, we just wont be mixed in with them anymore.

norral