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    Thread: Magic occurrence and free will


    kanonathena (Offline)

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    #1
    12-10-2012, 04:26 AM
    The Law of One, Book III, Session 73:

    Questioner: An observation of the working itself by another entity would
    seem to me to partially abridge free will in that a seemingly magical
    occurrence had taken place as the result of the working of an adept. This
    could be extended to any phenomenon which is other than normal or
    acceptable. Could you speak on this paradox that is immediately the
    problem of anyone doing healing?

    Ra: I am Ra. We are humble messengers of the Law of One. To us there are
    no paradoxes. The workings which seem magical and, therefore, seem to
    infringe upon free will do not, in themselves, do so, for the distortions of
    perception are as many as the witnesses and each witness sees what it desires to see. Infringement upon free will occurs in this circumstance only if the entity doing the working ascribes the authorship of this event to its self or its own skills. He who states that no working comes from it but only through it is not infringing upon free will.

    I wonder if this is because the healing is too "small" a miracle to infringe on free will. Otherwise why not all the masters levitate to travel in front of people, so that people can understand the reality a bit better?
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    12-10-2012, 10:38 AM
    Not worth it. Peope will see wires, hoaxes, etc. if they don't want to see levitation.
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      • anagogy, JustLikeYou
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    12-10-2012, 07:17 PM
    (12-10-2012, 04:26 AM)kanonathena Wrote: The Law of One, Book III, Session 73:

    Questioner: An observation of the working itself by another entity would
    seem to me to partially abridge free will in that a seemingly magical
    occurrence had taken place as the result of the working of an adept. This
    could be extended to any phenomenon which is other than normal or
    acceptable. Could you speak on this paradox that is immediately the
    problem of anyone doing healing?

    Ra: I am Ra. We are humble messengers of the Law of One. To us there are
    no paradoxes. The workings which seem magical and, therefore, seem to
    infringe upon free will do not, in themselves, do so, for the distortions of
    perception are as many as the witnesses and each witness sees what it desires to see. Infringement upon free will occurs in this circumstance only if the entity doing the working ascribes the authorship of this event to its self or its own skills. He who states that no working comes from it but only through it is not infringing upon free will.

    I wonder if this is because the healing is too "small" a miracle to infringe on free will. Otherwise why not all the masters levitate to travel in front of people, so that people can understand the reality a bit better?

    To someone who sincerely believes such a thing is not possible, they will vibrationally repel evidence to the contrary. However, it should be noted few beliefs are ever so "strong". Thus, in many peoples minds many strange things are "possible" just not "probable".

    The infringement that may occur in certain magickal workings is the coercing others into believing you are more creator than they are, hence the authorship issue. If you convince others that you are a god, for example, this would be an infringement upon their free will, even though they did, of free will, choose to believe you were a god. There is a certain threshold of ignorance, or confusion, that is an infringement to take advantage of. There has to be an appreciable probability that the illusion or lie can be discerned or potentially seen through. Otherwise, the action reduces polarity. There has to be a balance between the known and the unknown, the light and the dark, truth and illusion. Think of it as the "fairness" threshold. As an example, look at this section of the LOO:

    Quote:16.2 Questioner: I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it would be the free will of, say the Orion group, to interfere. How is this balanced with the information which you just gave?

    Ra: I am Ra. The balancing is from dimension to dimension. The attempts of the so-called Crusaders to interfere with free will are acceptable upon the dimension of their understanding. However, the mind/body/spirit complexes of this dimension you call third form a dimension of free will which is not able to, shall we say, recognize in full, the distortions towards manipulation. Thus, in order to balance the dimensional variances in vibration, a quarantine was set up, this being a balancing situation whereby the free will of the Orion group is not stopped but given a challenge. Meanwhile, the third-density group is not hindered from free choice.

    So, you see, the evidence can only come *after* the faith is established, not the other way around. This is the nature of consensus reality, which is somewhat ironic given that the particular consensus agreement that makes up our consensus physical reality is predominately of the belief that reality does *not* operate this way, leading to a great deal of vibrational variance in the experience of this seemingly singular physical experience, which is experienced more akin to vibrational islands of experience that might as well be separate worlds given the variance in vibrational alignment.
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      • JustLikeYou, kanonathena
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    12-10-2012, 07:35 PM
    βαθμιαίος is spot-on. David Blaine has been performing overt works of magic before large audiences for years now and people still insist that he's using illusionist tricks of some kind.

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    12-10-2012, 09:05 PM
    (12-10-2012, 07:35 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote: βαθμιαίος is spot-on. David Blaine has been performing overt works of magic before large audiences for years now and people still insist that he's using illusionist tricks of some kind.
    lol!

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    12-11-2012, 12:44 AM
    Have you tried his levitation trick? Really freaks people out here at work.BigSmile

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