Going to fourth density? Or fifth?

[Meerie]

Take your pick.

Buckle your seat belt, Dorothy, because Kansas is going bye-bye...

[Tenet Nosce]

[darklight]

Ra speaks that density and dimension are the same.

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are in the dimension known to you as fourth. Therefore the space/time continua are not compatible. An approximation of the space/time locus of each would net no actual understanding. Each chose a fourth-density planet which was dedicated to the pursuit of the understanding of the Law of One through service to self, one in what you know as the Orion group, one in what you know as Cassiopeia, one in what you know as Southern Cross; however, these loci are not satisfactory. We do not have vocabulary for the geometric calculations necessary for transfer of this understanding to you.

[Parsons]

The situation in general, at this time, is that the people of your planet have entered planetary fourth density. The labor is ongoing of the planet itself. However, the vibrations have changed. The energy has changed. And you are experiencing the dawn of that which some call fourth density and some call fifth density. It is the density of love or understanding. In this environment guidance is ever closer and ever more powerful to help. In this environment emotions and desires call forth the appropriate vibration of guidance. That is to say, entities at this particular time have a maximum ability to polarize, positively or negatively. All guidance is not positive. The guidance comes because of the vibration of calling that is sent out. This is as if one were a radio listener who was tuning that radio that was the self, looking for the best station, the most pleasant and desired station within that band of vibration which carries the radio waves.

Another thing confirmed that I knew all along: we are moving into the next density, which is sometimes labeled 4th and sometimes labeled 5th.

Also contained in this quote is another interesting analogy of what the 'deal' is with Ra, Q'uo, and other channels saying we are already entering 4D, or that is "dawning" and are already in "4d space". Some are confused to think that there is no difference between the faint light of predawn compared with the full(the period we are in now), direct sunlight on a clear day(after the veil is lifted).

Slightly off-topic, but interestingly, the next paragraph reads:

Whatever signal is put out has the potential of a tremendously enhanced and enlarged response. May we say that your planet at this time is fascinating to many, many entities within your inner planes who have come here to observe and some, hopefully, to help. There are many positive and negative entities very interested in the harvest at this time upon your planet. It is not that the present and this next decade, as this instrument has been receiving lately, is the beginning of the end. Rather it is the end of the end, and what we are saying at this time is that approximately for the next decade{circa 2002} what you will see within the Earth plane is an increasing transparency of desire to guidance so that efficacy to guidance becomes ever more efficient and, further, we are saying that once it is realized that there is extra help available and it may be asked for, then the effect can even be squared and squared again and increased exponentially.

[AnthroHeart]

Every time I've asked for help, I seem to end up in trouble with my psychic experiences. I've learned to be ok as I am, and just allow the asking to be unconscious. I don't make any deliberate attempt to ask for help anymore as of late.

[JoshC]

Probably different terminology. I hear people say we're going to 5th and that there's twelve or thirteen densities per "octave," not 8. Maybe Ra's material was lacking or our collective direction has changed since the 80's since we've apparently done so well collectively since then with increasing love and light. Either way, onward and upwards right quickly! Les do it.

[Parsons]

I see this as a very common misconception: that everything is structured precisely the same way. I read from a "channeling" (for lack of a better word) here that each octave has a variable number of densities, but we have 7 (8 is the "1D of the next octave) and a lot of them have 7. But some do indeed have 13 densities.

And if you read the above Q'uo te, they claim that some simply call it 4th and some call it 5th, yet is the sand concept.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I see this as a very common misconception: that everything is structured precisely the same way. I read from a "channeling" (for lack of a better word) here that each octave has a variable number of densities, but we have 7 (8 is the "1D of the next octave) and a lot of them have 7. But some do indeed have 13 densities.

And if you read the above Q'uo te, they claim that some simply call it 4th and some call it 5th, yet is the sand concept.

Ra's opinion, admittedly based on limited knowledge, is that the system of sevens persists throughout the octaves:

78.15
Questioner: Then the first experiences, as you say, were in monochrome. Was the concept of the seven densities of vibration with the evolutionary process taking place in discrete densities carried through from the previous octave?
Ra: I am Ra. To the limits of our knowledge, which are narrow, the ways of the octave are without time; that is, there are seven densities in each creation infinitely.

[kdsii]

No, no.
Things as they are now consist of four dimensions, being our 3D's plus linear time. Not to be confused with 4th Density.

4th density consists of 5 dimensions, I forget how this works though. Again, not to be confused with 5th Density.

As far as I'm aware, I haven't seen this discussed much in the forum...

What about all these sources now saying that the earth is headed to fifth density, rather than fourth? Simply different terminology? Did we "jump a timeline"? Or skip ahead? Have we unknowingly been in fourth density yet in some kind of 3D matrix program? All just a bunch of BS?

[Plenum]

No, no.
Things as they are now consist of four dimensions, being our 3D's plus linear time. Not to be confused with 4th Density.

4th density consists of 5 dimensions, I forget how this works though. Again, not to be confused with 5th Density.

we need a whole dimensions vs densities thread to make these things clear.

[zenmaster]

we need a whole dimensions vs densities thread to make these things clear.

There is no one here that can clarify what is essentially unknowable - we can't even explain 3rd density. Suffice to say that an increase in complexity of a m/b/s complex beyond the density barrier corresponds to an increase in available 'degrees of freedom' which is provided by the most basic properties of that new density.

Ra used dimension and density interchangeably, but tended to refer to dimension more often with regards to a space/time incarnation.

[Parsons]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I already saw a density vs dimension thread seeking to clarify the difference between the words. If I remember correctly, it actually confused me further at the time, although my general opinion on the matter has since (loosely)decided that dimension likely refers to space/time and density refers to your position within the 7 tiers of existence within this octave.

[Spaced]

The way I see it dimensions are a measure of space whereas densities are a measure of spiritual gravity or concentration of intelligent infinity.

[Tenet Nosce]

So, if:

and:

What if we are now "ascending" to dominant 5th sub-density of 3rd density?

[Wai]

Daniel has a new article "EDsETs" (www.soldierhugs.com) on densities, dimensions, timelines, and ETs.

http://www.soldierhugs.com/wp-content/up...EDsETs.pdf

[Tenet Nosce]

Let's take a closer look at these quotes from Session 6:

6.15 Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles?

Ra: One major cycle is approximately 25,000 of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested at the end of three major cycles. That is, approximately between 75 and 76,000 of your years. All are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.

Notice that they say "useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density." Sounds like they are talking about sub-densities.

6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

What they actually say here is "fourth-dimension vibration." In the previous quote they were talking about the levels of vibrations within a density. Therefore, it stands to reason that in this quote their use of "dimension" does NOT mean "density" but, again, a sub-density.

6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?

Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty, of your years.

Until the sphere enters the fifth-dimension vibration (or sub-density).

6.18 Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

Don asks, "after this period of thirty years". Which is where we are getting the idea that 2012-ish is the transition to fourth-density. But notice, that he didn't specify HOW LONG after. Immediately after? Another thousand years after?

[Goldenratio]

I always looked at the specific number of densities to be a distraction. Different mystic system use different amount and types of chakras, some split chakras down to sub chakras. Getting caught up in where you are, we are, and they are seems to hold minimal amount of water, and a maximum amount of conjecture.

[Guardian]

well duh we're already in 4th dimension. so we're going to 5th dimension. but 4th density.

There are different kinds of dimensions.

There are spatial dimensions and vibrational dimensions.

In space/time there are 4 spacial dimensions, length, width, height over time. All of space/time contains these 4 spacial dimensions, regardless of which vibrational dimension you are in.

But when we say we are in the 3rd density, we are not talking about a spacial dimensions, we're talking about a vibrational dimension.

The same way the visual spectrum of colour has 7 basic vibrational dimensions (Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet), we are currently in the 3rd vibrational dimension, moving into the 4th.

[Oceania]

interesting distinction.

[zenmaster]

Let's take a closer look at these quotes from Session 6:

6.15 Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles?

Ra: One major cycle is approximately 25,000 of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested at the end of three major cycles. That is, approximately between 75 and 76,000 of your years. All are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.

Notice that they say "useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density." Sounds like they are talking about sub-densities.

Yes.

6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

What they actually say here is "fourth-dimension vibration." In the previous quote they were talking about the levels of vibrations within a density. Therefore, it stands to reason that in this quote their use of "dimension" does NOT mean "density" but, again, a sub-density.

No, it means density.

6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?

Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty, of your years.

Until the sphere enters the fifth-dimension vibration (or sub-density).

No. It means until the "quantum leap" at the start of full 4D instreaming.

6.18 Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

Don asks, "after this period of thirty years". Which is where we are getting the idea that 2012-ish is the transition to fourth-density. But notice, that he didn't specify HOW LONG after. Immediately after? Another thousand years after?

Fourth density is a vibration which is used to support the experience of mind and body complexes which resonate with that level. Part of that mind is the planetary mind. The patterns which constitute 4D are formed from use of 4D mind, do you see? As 4D is lived, the body changes (to follow the mind). That is the transition period, which is quite a long time by our standards today.

[Tenet Nosce]

No, it means density.

I certainly have taken it to mean density in the past. But looking again, I'm not sure how you can be so sure about that, given that they were just talking about sub-densities. Can you explain in more depth?

No. It means until the "quantum leap" at the start of full 4D instreaming.

What determines when that "quantum leap" occurs?

That is the transition period, which is quite a long time by our standards today.

I get what you are saying, but I still don't see how you reconcile this view with what is written in the material. I feel like I'm still grasping to see what your big picture view is here.

We are now at the end of the thirty year period forecast by Ra. Shall we be immanently expecting full 4D instreaming? And if so- what kind of impact might this have on our own evolution through the remaining subdensities of 3D?

[zenmaster]

No, it means density.

I certainly have taken it to mean density in the past. But looking again, I'm not sure how you can be so sure about that, given that they were just talking about sub-densities. Can you explain in more depth?

Yes, they were just talking about sub-densities. I'm not sure what the confusion is. The subdensities roughly correspond to the full-spectrum polarization here. Polarization typically relies on distilled experience which processes catalyst. Experience is gained through the mind - both personal and collective. Distinct patterns of the collective mind have been identified through Spiral Dynamics. These roughly correspond to the "subdensities" (which are otherwise just non-descript, unidentifiable vibrations of the logos).

No. It means until the "quantum leap" at the start of full 4D instreaming.

What determines when that "quantum leap" occurs?

Mechanically: "This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the in-streaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the Earth will thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you might call it."

That is the transition period, which is quite a long time by our standards today.

I get what you are saying, but I still don't see how you reconcile this view with what is written in the material. I feel like I'm still grasping to see what your big picture view is here.

What do you want to know?

We are now at the end of the thirty year period forecast by Ra. Shall we be immanently expecting full 4D instreaming?

Yes, that is what I'd expect.

And if so- what kind of impact might this have on our own evolution through the remaining subdensities of 3D?

The way I see it, the 6th subdensity is the one where people just begin to access both their subjective interiority (Wilber's left-hand quadrants), and have some activity in green-ray (green ray catalyst is available). That's the subdensity where "initiation" may begin, the subdensity where "dark night of the soul" may be introduced as one is confronted with rejected aspects of the self. I think the calling in Egypt, where Ra taught the locals, was due to a sufficient number of individuals reaching that level. As far as I can tell, instreaming will essentially provide that type of environment to everyone - whether they have individuated sufficiently to process it or not. So the impact is tremendous catalyst due to mirroring of self (ready or not).

[AnthroHeart]

zen, are you saying that in this life everyone will be confronted with more of their deepest fears? Does this go on until you've processed and accepted every last fear?

[zenmaster]

zen, are you saying that in this life everyone will be confronted with more of their deepest fears?

Regardless of lifetime, the individual in the course of their development, is attempting to become less "distorted" through acceptance. "You" are everything. Since that condition is not actualized, what is not yet accepted is always an unknown to some extent. We tend to have fear or some level of apprehension of the unknown due to protective role of ego. So you are constantly being confronted with yourself - the unknown aspects of which may cause an emotional reaction (and it's not just "fear". "hope" is also unconscious).

[Ashim]

zen, are you saying that in this life everyone will be confronted with more of their deepest fears?

Regardless of lifetime, the individual in the course of their development, is attempting to become less "distorted" through acceptance. "You" are everything. Since that condition is not actualized, what is not yet accepted is always an unknown to some extent. We tend to have fear or some level of apprehension of the unknown due to protective role of ego. So you are constantly being confronted with yourself - the unknown aspects of which may cause an emotional reaction (and it's not just "fear". "hope" is also unconscious).

I discovered that my 'fears' were just part of supressed negative wisdom - stuff the lower self had not yet 'digested' from higher self.
When the information percolates into the 3rd density vessel of mind the 'fear' dissolves as understanding is achieved.
Obviously this is used to contain populations and 'keep them in the Game'

[Tenet Nosce]

Mechanically: "This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the in-streaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the Earth will thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you might call it."

I think the confusion stems from what aspects of the transition are inevitably occurring due to mechanics ala the "striking of a clock upon the hour" and what aspects are due to free will use (or non-use) of catalyst.

What do you want to know?

Well my general impression has been that you feel there is no significance to the time period in and around the winter solstice of 2012. Wherein there have been discussions that we are about to experience "harvest" you appear to have argued that it nothing special is about to occur, that 2013 will come and go without much discernible change, and that any other expectations are just about our projected hopes and fears.

I am also not clear on your opinion of the role of wanderers during and after such a transition, whenever it occurs. You seem fairly certain that no wanderers have hybrid bodies, and therefore cannot survive in a 4D environment. According to my read, 4D vibrations started instreaming circa 1935, and so I don't see why wanderers born since then wouldn't have hybrid bodies. So then, what happens to the wanderers after the "quantum leap"? Poof- here one minute gone the next? Or...?

I'm sure I have mischaracterized your opinions here, which is why I am asking about them, so that you can make the corrections.

Yes, that is what I'd expect.

So then, where does the end-of-the-cycle harvest fit in to all of this? Does it happen before full 4D instreaming begins? Or after the "transition period" is completed? How shall we know it has occurred? Especially for those of us that do not have hybrid bodies?

The way I see it, the 6th subdensity is the one where people just begin to access both their subjective interiority (Wilber's left-hand quadrants), and have some activity in green-ray (green ray catalyst is available).

So there is an overlap between when full 4D instreaming begins, and when the 3D experience ends? Or is there a discontinuity?

That's the subdensity where "initiation" may begin, the subdensity where "dark night of the soul" may be introduced as one is confronted with rejected aspects of the self.

Gosh- if we haven't already been collectively going through that "dark night of the soul" process, what the heck has been going on this whole time? It sounds like life gets even harder in the sixth subdensity...

I think the calling in Egypt, where Ra taught the locals, was due to a sufficient number of individuals reaching that level.

But how did so many people achieve 6SD some six to ten thousand years ago so far in advance of the rest of the population? And where are they now?

As far as I can tell, instreaming will essentially provide that type of environment to everyone - whether they have individuated sufficiently to process it or not. So the impact is tremendous catalyst due to mirroring of self (ready or not).

But that sounds like there would be a great potential for a "Mad Max" scenario with people running around like lunatics in the streets. Hardly a slow, stepwise transition taking place over several hundred years.

I suppose that frames my general misunderstanding of your view. How do you reconcile full 4D instreaming hitting us all at once like clockwork around 2012-2013 with a slow transition period of 700-ish years?

Regardless of lifetime, the individual in the course of their development, is attempting to become less "distorted" through acceptance. "You" are everything. Since that condition is not actualized, what is not yet accepted is always an unknown to some extent. We tend to have fear or some level of apprehension of the unknown due to protective role of ego. So you are constantly being confronted with yourself - the unknown aspects of which may cause an emotional reaction (and it's not just "fear". "hope" is also unconscious).

Speaking from my own experience, I came across the Law of One around 1995. Since then, I have worked on a near daily basis to accept everything I encounter as an aspect of myself. That's a lot of work, and it of course hasn't all been easy. And there is yet more to do.

Even still, with the slight advantage of having some semblance of understanding with respect to what is going on, I find myself wondering if I have sufficiently prepared. Or wondering if there is something lurking deep down and denied in my subconscious just waiting to rise up and clobber me over the head when I least expect it.

So- in all my attempts to "get ready" I have built up a degree of apprehension that I won't be at all ready, and have been deluding myself into thinking I have been making progress this whole time. Rather ironic...

[Ashim]

"Even still, with the slight advantage of having some semblance of understanding with respect to what is going on, I find myself wondering if I have sufficiently prepared. Or wondering if there is something lurking deep down and denied in my subconscious just waiting to rise up and clobber me over the head when I least expect it."

What beautiful poetry.

There was that quote from Jean Rostand.
Zen do you recall?

[Oceania]

zen, are you saying that in this life everyone will be confronted with more of their deepest fears? Does this go on until you've processed and accepted every last fear?

no, your life progresses as you've planned more or less. we progress as much as we can in one life. the rest will be up to the next incarnation. why else would we have the option of staying in 3D on another planet?

[Tenet Nosce]

What do you want to know?

Or perhaps you could just give me a detailed interpretation of these quotes. They are a large nexus of confusion for me.

6.15 Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles?

Ra: One major cycle is approximately 25,000 of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested at the end of three major cycles. That is, approximately between 75 and 76,000 of your years. All are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.

6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?

Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty, of your years.

6.18 Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

6.19 Questioner: Is it possible to estimate what percent of the present population will inhabit the fourth-density planet?

Ra: The harvesting is not yet, thus, estimation is meaningless.

[zenmaster]

What do you want to know?

Well my general impression has been that you feel there is no significance to the time period in and around the winter solstice of 2012.

Why do you say that?

Wherein there have been discussions that we are about to experience "harvest" you appear to have argued that it nothing special is about to occur, that 2013 will come and go without much discernible change, and that any other expectations are just about our projected hopes and fears.

No, not all all. If you read what I've said on the subject, I said is it's not associated with an "event", it's a process.

I am also not clear on your opinion of the role of wanderers during and after such a transition, whenever it occurs. You seem fairly certain that no wanderers have hybrid bodies, and therefore cannot survive in a 4D environment.

You don't need a hybrid body to survive in the early stages of the transition. You need a hybrid body/mind to fully appreciate the vibration. Do you see the difference? Wanderers can not have dual bodies as that would allow direct access to (millions of years of) prior distilled experience.

According to my read, 4D vibrations started instreaming circa 1935, and so I don't see why wanderers born since then wouldn't have hybrid bodies. So then, what happens to the wanderers after the "quantum leap"? Poof- here one minute gone the next? Or...?

The "quantum leap" just marks the uninhibited "instreaming". Nothing happens to wanderers other than probable familiarity with the conditions. Aspects of that type of energy or vibration is the same as experienced at various points prior depending on polarity and inner work.

I'm sure I have mischaracterized your opinions here, which is why I am asking about them, so that you can make the corrections.

There is no need to mischaracterize what I said in order to draw out specifics, just ask.

So then, where does the end-of-the-cycle harvest fit in to all of this? Does it happen before full 4D instreaming begins? Or after the "transition period" is completed?

The harvest occurs when you die. Most likely soon after the full 4D instreaming begins. It depends on how much catalytic opportunity is still available for learning lessons of 3D. If it's too transparent, then the veil is not effective.

How shall we know it has occurred? Especially for those of us that do not have hybrid bodies?

How do you know when you die?

The way I see it, the 6th subdensity is the one where people just begin to access both their subjective interiority (Wilber's left-hand quadrants), and have some activity in green-ray (green ray catalyst is available).

So there is an overlap between when full 4D instreaming begins, and when the 3D experience ends? Or is there a discontinuity?

Yes, there is overlap - thus the transition period.

That's the subdensity where "initiation" may begin, the subdensity where "dark night of the soul" may be introduced as one is confronted with rejected aspects of the self.

Gosh- if we haven't already been collectively going through that "dark night of the soul" process, what the heck has been going on this whole time? It sounds like life gets even harder in the sixth subdensity...

Well, the collective questions are part of it but acceptance still beckons.

I think the calling in Egypt, where Ra taught the locals, was due to a sufficient number of individuals reaching that level.

But how did so many people achieve 6SD some six to ten thousand years ago so far in advance of the rest of the population? And where are they now?

The had a rather advanced culture which facilitated leisure time. Most are still here. Some were wanderers.

As far as I can tell, instreaming will essentially provide that type of environment to everyone - whether they have individuated sufficiently to process it or not. So the impact is tremendous catalyst due to mirroring of self (ready or not).

But that sounds like there would be a great potential for a "Mad Max" scenario with people running around like lunatics in the streets. Hardly a slow, stepwise transition taking place over several hundred years.

I don't see it that way. People will adapt and will cope to process the new, more transparent, psychological conditions. It's just themselves after all, not some truly foreign burden being introduced.

I suppose that frames my general misunderstanding of your view. How do you reconcile full 4D instreaming hitting us all at once like clockwork around 2012-2013 with a slow transition period of 700-ish years?

The transition period is where the instreaming is actually utilized by the populace.

Speaking from my own experience, I came across the Law of One around 1995. Since then, I have worked on a near daily basis to accept everything I encounter as an aspect of myself. That's a lot of work, and it of course hasn't all been easy. And there is yet more to do.

It's a lot of work, then it gets easier.

Even still, with the slight advantage of having some semblance of understanding with respect to what is going on, I find myself wondering if I have sufficiently prepared. Or wondering if there is something lurking deep down and denied in my subconscious just waiting to rise up and clobber me over the head when I least expect it.

What is the relationship you have established with yourself? It's only "you". "you" wants to cooperate with "you". It is more than willing to cooperate. The universe itself is more than willing to cooperate. Everything you need is built in.

So- in all my attempts to "get ready" I have built up a degree of apprehension that I won't be at all ready, and have been deluding myself into thinking I have been making progress this whole time. Rather ironic...

Well, you can start with taking a look at all aspects of what it means to you personally to not be ready or to be ready. Also take a look at what you consider to be "progress". Also, what does deluding yourself mean? What other times have you deluded yourself and what were the actual consequences?