Trying to FIND a passage in the Law of One ...

[βαθμιαίος]

This?

104.3 Questioner: The instrument has determined that the unwise use of her will is its use without the joy and faith components and constitutes martyrdom. Would Ra comment on that, please?

Ra: I am Ra. We are pleased that the entity has pondered that which has been given. We would comment as follows. It is salubrious for the instrument to have knowledge which is less distorted towards martyrdom and which is rich in promise. The entity which is strong to think shall either be strong to act or that which it has shall be removed. Thus manifestation of knowledge is an area to be examined by the instrument.

We would further note that balancing which, in this entity’s case, is best accomplished in analysis and manifestation seated with the contemplation of silence may be strengthened by manifested silence and lack of routine activity. We may go no further than this recommendation of regularized leisure, and desire that the entity discover the fundamental truths of these distortions as it will.

[Patrick]

Excellent Tobey !

Sometimes I feel that I should just meditate all evening instead of whatever else I would do to pass the time.

[Plenum]

This?

Ra: I am Ra. We are pleased that the entity has pondered that which has been given. We would comment as follows. It is salubrious for the instrument to have knowledge which is less distorted towards martyrdom and which is rich in promise. The entity which is strong to think shall either be strong to act or that which it has shall be removed. Thus manifestation of knowledge is an area to be examined by the instrument.

yep! that's the one! thanks very much Mr Tobey. That quote has been on my mind for a little while now.

that part about "Thus manifestation of knowledge is an area to be examined by the instrument." has some relevance to my own current state I think.

merci beaucoup.

[βαθμιαίος]

I associate it with this advice that Ra gave Jim:

99.5 ...We may note that the great forte of the scribe is summed in the inadequate sound vibration complex, power. The flow of power, just as the flow of love or wisdom, is enabled not by the chary conserver of its use but by the constant user. The physical manifestation of power being either constructive or destructive strenuous activity, the power-filled entity must needs exercise that manifestation. This entity experiences a distortion in the direction of an excess of stored energy. It is well to know the self and to guard and use those attributes which the self has provided for its learning and its service.

Basically, use it or lose it. And using it enables the flow, which is nice.

[native]

I'm looking for the passage stating why wisdom is learned after love. It's not 42.7 that I'm looking for. I haven't read much of Q'uo, but it may be from that source.

[anagogy]

I'm looking for the passage stating why wisdom is learned after love. It's not 42.7 that I'm looking for. I haven't read much of Q'uo, but it may be from that source.

I'm not sure if this is the quote you are looking for Icaro, but it contains some useful information in regards to your query:

27.13 Questioner: Is there a manifestation of love that we could call vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom. Thus in vibratory sense love comes into light in the sense of the activity of unity in its free will. Love uses light and has the power to direct light in its distortions. Thus vibratory complexes recapitulate in reverse the creation in its unity, thus showing the rhythm or flow of the great heartbeat, if you will use this analogy.

[native]

That's not it, but thank you.

[zenmaster]

That's not it, but thank you.

Try this search in google:

site:llresearch.org +wisdom +love +lessons

[Ankh]

I'm looking for the passage stating why wisdom is learned after love. It's not 42.7 that I'm looking for. I haven't read much of Q'uo, but it may be from that source.

The lie of your metaphysical dynamic is concerned with the value of wisdom in spiritual seeking within third density. Knowledge and wisdom, in the spiritual sense, can be seen to be highly negative when unlit, unillumined, by love. That is why love is learned before wisdom. That is why love must be learned before wisdom. For when wisdom is learned first it is fair to the taste and so smooth within the intellectual digestion, and so handy and useful in the intellectual display of personality and intelligence that it is often not clear, for lifetimes at a time, that without love, wisdom is utterly devoid of content. No matter how many fine thoughts roll around inside of an intellectual system, if it does not come into the heart and become grounded by what this instrument would call good works, good living, it will not abide in the sense of being spiritually useful for the evolution and the maturity of the soul.

Is above what you were looking for?

[Patrick]

Thank you Lana for that great quote.

[Ankh]

You are welcome, my brother.

[native]

zenmaster - Thanks, will do.

Ankh - That's not striking my memory. Good though!

[Adonai One]

I remember Ra saying something along with lines of the closer one becomes to intelligent infinity the more likely there are to sway from positive to negative polarity and vice-versa. Does anyone remember where and what the exact quote was?

[Ankh]

Is it this one?

19.18 Questioner: I assume that an entity on either path can decide to choose paths at any time and possibly retrace steps, the path-changing being more difficult the farther along is gone. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.

Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.

Btw, here is a thread where members can ask about passages that they have difficulties to find:

http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=4329

[Steppingfeet]

Seeking Law of One Quote:

Hey forums. I have it in my head that there exists a notion put forth by Ra that to refrain from offering service is not a disservice. Something to that effect.

Does this idea sound familiar to anyone? If so, can you direct me please to this quote in the Law of One material?

Thanks in advance for any help!

[Bluebell]

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=S...+to+Others Any of these?

Do u mean to offer w/o people asking is infringement?

[Jade]

I pulled two that might be what you were looking for, but I'm not sure:

42.7 ↥ Questioner: I would like to try to make an analogy for this in third density. Many entities here feel great compassion toward relieving the physical problems of third-density other-selves by administering to them in many ways, bringing them food if there is hunger as there is in the African nations now, bringing them medicine if they believe they require administering to them medically, and being selfless in all of these services to a very great extent.

This is creating a polarization or a vibration that is in harmony with green ray or fourth density. However, it is not balanced with the understanding of fifth density that these entities are experiencing catalyst and a more balanced administration to their needs would be to provide them with the learning necessary to reach the state of awareness of fourth density than it would be to administer to their physical needs at this time. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body. You may extrapolate from this.

On the other hand, however, you are correct in your assumption that the green ray response is not as refined as that which has been imbued with wisdom. This wisdom enables the entity to appreciate its contributions to the planetary consciousness by the quality of its being without regard to activity or behavior which expects results upon visible planes.

89.30 ↥ Questioner: Would Ra’s attitude toward the same unharvestable entities be different at this nexus than at the time of harvest of third density?

Ra: I am Ra. Not substantially. To those who wish to sleep we could only offer those comforts designed for the sleeping. Service is only possible to the extent it is requested. We were ready to serve in whatever way we could. This still seems satisfactory as a means of dealing with other-selves in third density. It is our feeling that to be each entity which one attempts to serve is to simplify the grasp of what service is necessary or possible.

[Ankh]

Seeking Law of One Quote:

Hey forums. I have it in my head that there exists a notion put forth by Ra that to refrain from offering service is not a disservice. Something to that effect.

Does this idea sound familiar to anyone? If so, can you direct me please to this quote in the Law of One material?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Could it be this one:

"Could you, then, serve a negative entity by offering the instrument’s life? It is unlikely that you would find this a true service. Thus you may see in many cases the loving balance being achieved, the love being offered, light being sent, and the service of the service-to-self oriented entity gratefully acknowledged while being rejected as not being useful in your journey at this time. Thus you serve One Creator without paradox."

Or perhaps this one:

"This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.

It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup."

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[third-density-being]

Hello,

When looking for a specific passage in The Law of One, I would suggest to do it in electronic version - just press Ctrl, hold, and press "F". Now write a Word, that will be found in the Book - it will jump from word, to word You write there. This key-combination works also in different programs.

VERY helpful

Take Care

[Nicholas]

Seeking Law of One Quote:

Hey forums. I have it in my head that there exists a notion put forth by Ra that to refrain from offering service is not a disservice. Something to that effect.

Does this idea sound familiar to anyone? If so, can you direct me please to this quote in the Law of One material?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Hi GLB,

It sounds familiar to me also but I cannot find the very quote that would directly help with your query.
My best attempt to word it in another way is the intention behind refraining from service. Opportunities to polarise further may be passed by, however a loss of polarity is negligible if there is a conscious concern prior to making a decision on whether to act or not.

I have tried "loss of polarity" and "service not given" and the latter search attempt has aided me in my interpretation above.

42.7 ↥ Questioner: I would like to try to make an analogy for this in third density. Many entities here feel great compassion toward relieving the physical problems of third-density other-selves by administering to them in many ways, bringing them food if there is hunger as there is in the African nations now, bringing them medicine if they believe they require administering to them medically, and being selfless in all of these services to a very great extent.

This is creating a polarization or a vibration that is in harmony with green ray or fourth density. However, it is not balanced with the understanding of fifth density that these entities are experiencing catalyst and a more balanced administration to their needs would be to provide them with the learning necessary to reach the state of awareness of fourth density than it would be to administer to their physical needs at this time. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body. You may extrapolate from this.

On the other hand, however, you are correct in your assumption that the green ray response is not as refined as that which has been imbued with wisdom. This wisdom enables the entity to appreciate its contributions to the planetary consciousness by the quality of its being without regard to activity or behavior which expects results upon visible planes.

Then...

42.8 ↥ Questioner: Then why do we have the extreme starvation problem in, generally, in the area of Africa at this time? Is this, is there any metaphysical reason for this, or is it purely random occurrence?

Ra: I am Ra. Your previous assumption was correct as to the catalytic action of this starvation and ill health. However, it is within the free will of an entity to respond to this plight of other-selves, and the offering of the needed foodstuffs and substances is an appropriate response within the framework of your learn/teachings at this time which involve the growing sense of love for and service to other-selves.

Don asks a question on appropriate terms or boundaries of service and I have highlighted the part of relevance in relation to those above.

18.6 ↥ Questioner: Basically I would say that to infringe on the free will of another self or another entity would be the basic thing never to do under the Law of One. Can you state any other breaking of the Law of One than this basic rule?

Ra: I am Ra. As one proceeds from the primal distortion of free will, one proceeds to the understanding of the focal points of intelligent energy which have created the intelligences or the ways of a particular mind/body/spirit complex in its environment, both what you would call natural and what you would call man-made. Thus, the distortions to be avoided are those which do not take into consideration the distortions of the focus of energy of love/light, or shall we say, the Logos of this particular sphere or density. These include the lack of understanding of the needs of the natural environment, the needs of other-selves’ mind/body/spirit complexes. These are many due to the various distortions of man-made complexes in which the intelligence and awareness of entities themselves have chosen a way of using the energies available.

Thus, what would be an improper distortion with one entity is proper with another. We can suggest an attempt to become aware of the other-self as self and thus do that action which is needed by other-self, understanding from the other-self’s intelligence and awareness. In many cases this does not involve the breaking of the distortion of free will into a distortion or fragmentation called infringement. However, it is a delicate matter to be of service, and compassion, sensitivity, and an ability to empathize are helpful in avoiding the distortions of man-made intelligence and awareness.

The area or arena called the societal complex is an arena in which there are no particular needs for care for it is the prerogative/honor/duty of those in the particular planetary sphere to act according to its free will for the attempted aid of the social complex.

Thus, you have two simple directives: awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in nature, awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in self to be shared, when it seems appropriate, by the entity with the social complex, and you have one infinitely subtle and various set of distortions of which you may be aware; that is, distortions with respect to self and other-selves not concerning free will but concerning harmonious relationships and service to others as other-selves would most benefit.

Will stay tuned to this thread as I am now intrigued myself!

[Steppingfeet]

Thank you Bluebell, Ankh, Jade, Third-Density Being, and Nio. Those are all great service-focused quotes, but none are hitting the mark. I'm beginning to wonder if I imagined the idea into existence.

If this rings a bell with anyone else, please do let me know! I'd love to find the quote if it exists.

And Simon, are you aware of lawofone.info? It gives a variety of ways to run keyword searches on the material.

Lots of love

[isis]

It is impossible not to serve...

[Parsons]

I applaud the efforts put forth in the lawofone.info site, but the search engine is counterintuitive. When you add more search terms, it broadens the results instead of narrowing it down. It also does not account for synonyms.

I guess I'm really spoiled on Google's engine. Its a shame when you google searh lawofone.info (by typing site:lawofone.info {topic you are searching for} with no brackets), it only comes up with search results generated by that site's search engine.

[isis]

I guess I'm really spoiled on Google's engine. Its a shame when you google searh lawofone.info (by typing site:lawofone.info {topic you are searching for} with no brackets), it only comes up with search results generated by that site's search engine.

when i'm searching for Ra material words &/or phrases i have to go to lawofone.info to search rather than just use google like i normally do

idk what u mean by how it's counterintuitive & broadens instead of narrows & doesn't account for synonyms

[Parsons]

idk what u mean by how it's counterintuitive & broadens instead of narrows & doesn't account for synonyms

Right now, if you search on lawofone.info for one word such as 'light', you will get (let's say) 500 search results. If you search for 'love light', you will get 700 results.

If you did the same on a google search engine, it would do the opposite. If you got 500 results for 'light', you would get 250 for 'love light' and there would be a much greater chance to find what you were looking for.

What I meant by accounting for synonyms is if you were to search for the word 'choice', google would also include results for the word 'decision'. I think that would be extremely useful for searching the LOO because of the abnormal terminology sometimes used by Ra.

[βαθμιαίος]

I applaud the efforts put forth in the lawofone.info site, but the search engine is counterintuitive. When you add more search terms, it broadens the results instead of narrowing it down. It also does not account for synonyms.

I guess I'm really spoiled on Google's engine. Its a shame when you google searh lawofone.info (by typing site:lawofone.info {topic you are searching for} with no brackets), it only comes up with search results generated by that site's search engine.

The default is to search for any word. You can search for all words rather than any using the form at http://www.lawofone.info/search.php or by adding '&st=all' to your searches.

Or search for exact phrase for even more restrictive results.

I have added some synonyms as keywords, but a synonym library is a good idea. Know any (php)? All the ones I've found so far use web requests (slow), and they're not necessarily free.

[Bring4th_Austin]

Edit: βαθμιαίος beat me to it!

I applaud the efforts put forth in the lawofone.info site, but the search engine is counterintuitive. When you add more search terms, it broadens the results instead of narrowing it down. It also does not account for synonyms.

I guess I'm really spoiled on Google's engine. Its a shame when you google searh lawofone.info (by typing site:lawofone.info {topic you are searching for} with no brackets), it only comes up with search results generated by that site's search engine.

If I'm understanding your quandary with LOO.info, I think that the advanced search options can fix this issue. Clicking on "more options" under the search button on the main page will bring you to a page where you can choose 3 different types of searches: "any word", "all words", and "exact phrase."

The default on the main page is "any word", so when you type in multiple words, it will bring up every instance of each of those words ("broadens the results"). But if you use the "all words" option, it will only bring up passages that have each of the words in it, so instead of broadening results, it narrows them. Choosing "exact phrase" will bring up passages with only that specific phrase with that specific wording.

Utilizing these, I can usually find exactly what I'm looking for.

[Mikesch]

Hey Gang,

Was looking for a passage where Don asks about Déjà vu and Ra hits him with the law of confusion. At least I think that's how it went.... can't seem to find it in the search.

[Parsons]

Ah, I forgot about the advanced search feature, thanks for the reminder. I tried the 'all words' option in the past and came up dry because I was using a synonym of an exact word I couldn't remember. I wish I could remember what exactly I was looking for, but I can't.

I don't know of any php (or otherwise) synonym libraries, sorry. I think that if we implemented one, we would end up adding on to it because of Ra's terminology (eg, their use of 'galaxy' or 'catalyst' or 'harvest').

[Jade]

Hey Gang,

Was looking for a passage where Don asks about Déjà vu and Ra hits him with the law of confusion. At least I think that's how it went.... can't seem to find it in the search.

Hey Mikesch, this might help:

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=N...+Confusion

The only thing on that list that might be considered "deja vu" that the group experienced was the vision of the hawk, which Don took to be a negative sign and kept probing Ra about it:

97.3 ↥ Questioner: I’ve been doing some consideration of the appearance of the hawk and have made this analysis of the bird in Card Three. The bird is a message from the higher self, and the position of the wings in Card Three, one wing pointing toward the female, indicates that it is a message to the female acting as catalyst for the mind. The position of the downward wing indicates that the message is of a negative or of a nature indicating the inappropriateness of certain mental activity or plan. Would Ra comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. No.

97.4 ↥ Questioner: Is the reason for this lack of comment the first distortion?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

97.5 ↥ Questioner: I have analyzed the hawk that I saw immediately after returning from the house in Atlanta as a message, most probably from my higher self, indicating that the plan of moving was not the best; was not too appropriate since, without the hawk, everything would have continued as planned with no added catalyst. This single catalyst of a remarkable nature then, logically, from my point of view, could only mean that there was a message as to the inappropriateness of the plan for some reason yet to be discovered. Would Ra comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. We tread as close as possible to the Law of Confusion in suggesting that not all wingèd creatures have an archetypical meaning. We might suggest that the noticing of shared subjectively notable phenomena is common when, in another incarnational experience, work significant to the service of increased polarity has been shared. These subjectively interesting shared phenomena then act as a means of communication, the nature of which cannot be discussed by those outside of the shared incarnational experience without the interference with the free will of each entity involved in the complex of subjectively meaningful events

Though I think this would be more "synchronicity" instead of "deja vu", but I think deja vu is a type of synchronicity?