Confusion, please help provide information.

[010894]

Hello! I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak with all of you. The subjects that are discussed and centered around this forum have been on my mind since I was extremely young. (I am only 18) I was not always consciously aware of this, however. I have barely been able to converse with anyone on these subjects because I have met very few people in my life that are on the same page. (I'm usually telling about and teaching them these things). By these "subjects" I specifically mean the possibility of a dimensional shift in consciousness, the fact that we live in a multi-dimensional universe, the Law of Attraction and the Law of One, how in sync everything is, and astrological birth charts symbolism and meaning. I would appreciate if someone would just give me reassurance on a few of these things even though I have entire trust on myself and intuition. (It is always good to vibe with people as both are needed, especially to learn!) Are we really going through a dimensional shift? Is there anything I can do to prepare myself for it? How will it happen? What is astral travel like and how can it easily be done? Is there any information you enjoy sharing and teaching others? How exactly does astrology work, if it does?

These are just simple things I would really appreciate conversing with and hearing from any of you guys! I'm not specifically intuitive in the sense where I have tapped into energy fields or lucid dreamed or astral traveled but I am so willing and desire to know how. Feel free to tap into my energy fields for anyone is capable! However I place trust in feeling my way through life, feeling the energy behind peoples words and actions, and simple things on a day to day basis. I can feel my mind operate at a higher frequency. I seem to rambling now but please discuss and provide and information you see fit!

Also: This is my birth chart if anyone has any knowledge of that subject and anything to say about it: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/a...es&lang=en

Thank you guys so much and I absolutely appreciate anyone who wants to input any sort of knowledge and interest in this thread!

[Patrick]

"Are we really going through a dimensional shift?" "How will it happen?"

I do not believe consensus reality will shift instantly. People are already starting to be more concerned about moral matters. I believe this will culminate in changes in the way decisions are made at all levels. So of course consensus reality will change, but it will change because each of us is changing from the inside.


"Is there anything I can do to prepare myself for it?"

I do not see what more you could do to prepare. You seem to be standing on the front line already.


"What is astral travel like and how can it easily be done?"

I have no conscious memory of doing it. Incidentally, I do not believe it to be of much use for doing what we came here to do. In my opinion, its use would be more in the domain of entertainment.


"Is there any information you enjoy sharing and teaching others?"

I enjoy answering questions like the ones you're asking. Otherwise my preference is in sharing information about forgiveness and its uses for clearing up repressed happenings in people's past. To let an old hurt come to the surface and then see how the person could start the process of releasing it. This process is much more difficult than it may seem. Forgiveness is so easy and natural to me and since it does not seem to be so for most people, I figured this was an area where I could help the most.


"How exactly does astrology work, if it does?"

Astrology seems to be related to the archetypes and how these influences our consciousness. Since we are energy beings, we are moved by the influence of the stars and planets much in the same way that the moon moves water upon our planet.

Much love to you and welcome !

[Parsons]

There are currently two schools of thought in relation to this, one who thinks there will be a very gradual transition of 100-700 years from 3D to 4D, and one who believes there will be a sudden shift to 4D on or before Dec 21st for those ready to give up 3D.

More info on the debate can be found here:
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3610
or here:
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1285

If you are already decided or leaning towards belief in a sudden change, this study guide may be helpful for you:
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=5518

[reeay]

(Astrology) Your spiritual purpose may be to be spiritual seeker for the truth, who is on a journey to expand your life experiences and to understand life through studying and traveling. So it may be important to be out and about in the world to learn. Perhaps in your life you may encounter many life experiences and learn much. Yet at your core you may be seeking a truth or a philosophy that you may live by. Life's an adventure! Studying or traveling may therefore be an important way to expand your understanding truth. Perhaps you may like to be in the world and study different cultures or study spiritual laws (like the Law of One). This placement you have in your chart asks you to be focused and concentrate on the things that you are learning because it may be possible to over-expand your knowledge and become distracted (e.g., if you feel yourself doing and learning many things at once, take time to focus on one thing, then move onto the next thing). Perhaps being in contact with many people out there will be a great form of learning for you (like this forum)! And, perhaps it may be important to have a connection with your outside community to fulfill your hopes and your dreams (kind of like how people form groups and work together towards a common vision/goal and make decisions together, etc.,). Perhaps in your younger years it may be important to focus on self and you will eventually find your community to do something special later... but maybe you're ready now.

This is all possibilities so please take what resonates. Since you're young, you may find that a lot of what you read about yourself in the astrology reading hasn't really been a strong influence for you. So keep the chart and read it from time to time.

Welcome

[010894]

Thank you guys so much, every single one of you! All your replies were much appreciated!

-Patrick: I believe also, it will be a transition. It seems to be going that way as people are slowly starting to think differently and more clearer and in a larger sense and in the Law of One. It was a journey for me, and for everyone else it will most likely be journey for everyone else. I want everyone to experience their own journey at their own pace and own time. Even though I may not necessarily believe that it will just happen, I know something is definitely changing as my generation and younger ones differ much much more than many older ones. You can just feel some sort of change.

- Yes! Astrology seems to work less with the stars and more with the seasons. For example, in Capricorn position of the earth, the energy the sun is giving off makes much sense to how Capricorns such as myself behave. Same goes for any other sign! It seems to all be a process and within this process, and within the zodiac signs, I feel there is some sort of relation to the 12 dimensions. If you look at the descriptions of the 12 dimensions and the 12 zodiac signs (or seasons) you can see that everything is somewhat in sync. We are the third dimension supposedly and like mutable air or the third zodiac sign Gemini are exercising our mental processes. If you look at the zodiac backwards, treating Pisces as the source, you will see the equation Mobile Feeling (Water) (Pisces) + Fixed Thought (Air) (Aquarius) = Manifested Form (Earth) (Capricorn) and then repeated over 3 times in different ways. Sort of like the bubble of our universe and every other universe! It's very interesting.

-Parsons: Thank you for the two schools of thought on the debate, I very much appreciate it!

-Rie: Yes, that is exactly how I look at life! While I am very goal oriented in a sense the main purpose of every thing I do seems to be to know and seek more spiritual knowledge. I am also a huge spreader of anything I find out in casual conversation and making people think in this sense. I do it because it's easy for me because these are passions of mine! I have already been through a good number of traumatic experiences where I had to keep control and learn from them, and I appreciate every one of these because of the strength and knowledge they give me!


Rambling again, but thank you all best wishes to every one of you and I appreciate your replies. Any more discussion add please!

[reeay]

Yes, one who goes out into the world to learn from many people and teach to many people! I do see the teacher side in you. There's a lot of excitement and enthusiasm for learning/teaching. I hope you will travel to many places and share your love/light with people from all over the world and universe . Love how you said you appreciate difficult experiences and learn from them. You don't need to control them (maybe I got to your meaning wrong... did you mean like manage the emotions when things get difficult?)... love, understand, accept, and forgiveness to self and others!

[010894]

Yes, one who goes out into the world to learn from many people and teach to many people! I do see the teacher side in you. There's a lot of excitement and enthusiasm for learning/teaching. I hope you will travel to many places and share your love/light with people from all over the world and universe . Love how you said you appreciate difficult experiences and learn from them. You don't need to control them (maybe I got to your meaning wrong... did you mean like manage the emotions when things get difficult?)... love, understand, accept, and forgiveness to self and others!

Yep, that's me! That's where my real passion is- teaching. In some way I can see the control and manage emotions being my issue even though that's not what I meant by it. Forgiveness is basically built into me. It's very easy for me to understand people I come across, I have powerful insight and so because of that forgiveness is not even an issue with me because I already understand other people's point of views. In that way I am extremely perceptive and understanding (could be my packed first house). In some way, I know myself so well that the polarity causes me to know others well! But there is the problem I come across, as I can be pretty hard on myself. I do forgive myself when I mess up but I build up a lot of pressure on myself sometimes. But that's okay with me because it is how I grow and how I improve and further my learning. I'm driven but passionately so to seriously do good for this world. I aim to teach others, help others, and I still aim to achieve my goals just so that I can further my opportunities to help others. I formulate stability in myself just so I am capable of helping others. I had a rough childhood, dealt with a lot of depression, and suppressed emotions that has motivated me to aid others that experience low times. It isn't selfless acts that I do because it makes ME feel content with helping OTHER.

Astrology is seriously an interesting thing I taught myself and it has helped me to understand myself and everyone else so much better! It's great to discuss it with others because it is a seriously interesting topic to me! It is almost the study of the energy of the universe, I believe. Thank you for your reply!

[Siren]

Are we really going through a dimensional shift?

Yes. And it is occurring as we speak. To simplify matters, we may put it this way: at this particular nexus in time this planetary sphere, as a collective whole, is undergoing a major evolutionary transition—the next quantum leap in consciousness, if you will. It is to be noted, first and foremost and above all, that this is a shift in awareness, not in materiality. That is not to say there won't be material effects. Naturally, gradual but rapid physical changes will follow as a result of, and to adjust to, the radical shift in global awareness. By the same token, old belief systems, suppositions, calculations, assumptions, theories and paradigms—social, political, religious, scientific or otherwise—are bound to crumble, break apart, fall away and/or be completely redefined (the same way a flora/fauna 2nd density entity sheds its survivalistic instinct and trades it for higher values of beauty, knowledge, love, etc, as it it graduates to 3rd density). The stage will change, the lessons will be different, the experience will be another altogether.

Is there anything I can do to prepare myself for it?

You are already preparing yourself, otherwise you wouldn't be asking. The quintessential purpose/lesson of 3rd density experience is to make a choice. It is simple: the choice is service. It is then when you truly and finally ascertain this choice within yourself—your true "vocation," so to speak—that you shall finally find your "purpose" in life. This shall be confirmed and reinforced by that which feels right to you. Once ascertained, you shall then be able to follow your chosen path without doubts, insecurities or hesitation but full of certainty, dedication and purity of intention. This is the true nature of service. And the choice is service.

To clarify any grey areas of confusion that may arise, the choice is two-fold; that is, to either (1) deny, infringe, undermine, violate and subvert the free-will of other-selves in order to serve solely your-self, or (2) to respect, accept, support, honor and uphold the free-will of other-selves and thus harmoniously serve every-self. This is the choice. And the choice is yours and yours only.

Remember that ultimately all service is service to the One Infinite Creator.

How will it happen?

Variable. This is subject to individual and collective basis. I am aware that some entertain the idea of an "instantaneous ascension;" an if I am to offer you my insight on this I must tell you that it won't happen that way. The transition is both a rapid and gradual process. Individually, some entities are sufficiently ready to begin a 4th density experience with their current bodies at the present. Others will follow. The collective/global adjustment, of course, is something that will occur gradually over a period of "time." This is, from my vantage point, irrelevant/transient.

If I could offer you a suggestion, it would be that you do not concern yourself temporal measurements, but instead focus on the actual change/transformation that is occurring.

The most common type of transition will be the cessation of the yellow-ray (3D) physical vehicle's viability in order to take up a new 4D green-ray body upon the next incarnation in the already electromagnetically-calibrated 4D planetary sphere.

The least common of all cases will be a physical/genetic/chemical transmutation that will either reconfigure a 3D body to dual 3D/4D and/or to full 4D early-green body activation. This will be, as I surmise, rare and only occur in isolated instances.

There are other related instances in which the 3rd density entity may be "assisted" by 4th density entities in the transition process.

Whichever the case, the yellow-ray body must be either "shed" or transfigured into a green-ray body proper of a 4th density entity dwelling within a 4th density planetary environment.

When/if you truly realize bodies serve merely as physical vessels/containers, then you will not worry as to whether you drop it or lose it or swap it for another.

What is astral travel like and how can it easily be done?

There are various aspects (as well as divergent opinions) to what is and what constitutes "astral travel" or "astral projection" (I do find these terms clumsy, I must say). In essence, what is generally regarded as "astral travel" is an "out-of-body" experience that occurs in the time/space portion of reality (whilst the body remains at rest in space/time).

Is this what you are inquiring about? I could offer advice and guidance (based on personal experience), but I would first like to know what is your understand of "astral travel" and what do you expect of it.

I will tell you, however, that given the proper dedication, stimulus, desire/intention, discipline and practice, it is relatively easy to achieve.

Is there any information you enjoy sharing and teaching others?

Yes! There is Infinity. This is All There Is. This is the Source and One Infinite Creator. There is no other. Thus, the only possible service is service to Self/One/All There Is. And the purpose of Creation is experience.

How exactly does astrology work, if it does?

You may have heard of "sacred geometry." The Creation of the One Infinite Creator is one of beautiful, intricate intelligent design and perfect order/balance. Astrology is based on the principle/law of resonance ("like attracts like"), or to put it differently: "soul frequency vibratory-match." Various archetypical biases, personality quirks, talents, gifts, proclivities, strengths, weaknesses and limitations are mathematically determined by spacial/temporal ratios—in the case of an incarnation, by point of entrance (i.e. time/place of birth in relation to other planets and stars). This is not to say one is "doomed" in a pre-destined fatalistic way, but rather, than one has pre-incarnatively chosen the "customization," so to speak, of the incarnation; which can be revealed/reviewed/examined by the system of astrology (not the daily horoscope you find in the newspaper or beauty magazines, mind you). So in that sense, astrology can be quite useful for psycho-analysis.

[010894]

Are we really going through a dimensional shift?

Yes. And it is occurring as we speak. To simplify matters, we may put it this way: at this particular nexus in time this planetary sphere, as a collective whole, is undergoing a major evolutionary transition—the next quantum leap in consciousness, if you will. It is to be noted, first and foremost and above all, that this is a shift in awareness, not in materiality. That is not to say there won't be material effects. Naturally, gradual but rapid physical changes will follow as a result of, and to adjust to, the radical shift in global awareness. By the same token, old belief systems, suppositions, calculations, assumptions, theories and paradigms—social, political, religious, scientific or otherwise—are bound to crumble, break apart, fall away and/or be completely redefined (the same way a flora/fauna 2nd density entity sheds its survivalistic instinct and trades it for higher values of beauty, knowledge, love, etc, as it it graduates to 3rd density). The stage will change, the lessons will be different, the experience will be another altogether.

Is there anything I can do to prepare myself for it?

You are already preparing yourself, otherwise you wouldn't be asking. The quintessential purpose/lesson of 3rd density experience is to make a choice. It is simple: the choice is service. It is then when you truly and finally ascertain this choice within yourself—your true "vocation," so to speak—that you shall finally find your "purpose" in life. This shall be confirmed and reinforced by that which feels right to you. Once ascertained, you shall then be able to follow your chosen path without doubts, insecurities or hesitation but full of certainty, dedication and purity of intention. This is the true nature of service. And the choice is service.

To clarify any grey areas of confusion that may arise, the choice is two-fold; that is, to either (1) deny, infringe, undermine, violate and subvert the free-will of other-selves in order to serve solely your-self, or (2) to respect, accept, support, honor and uphold the free-will of other-selves and thus harmoniously serve every-self. This is the choice. And the choice is yours and yours only.

Remember that ultimately all service is service to the One Infinite Creator.

How will it happen?

Variable. This is subject to individual and collective basis. I am aware that some entertain the idea of an "instantaneous ascension;" an if I am to offer you my insight on this I must tell you that it won't happen that way. The transition is both a rapid and gradual process. Individually, some entities are sufficiently ready to begin a 4th density experience with their current bodies at the present. Others will follow. The collective/global adjustment, of course, is something that will occur gradually over a period of "time." This is, from my vantage point, irrelevant/transient.

If I could offer you a suggestion, it would be that you do not concern yourself temporal measurements, but instead focus on the actual change/transformation that is occurring.

The most common type of transition will be the cessation of the yellow-ray (3D) physical vehicle's viability in order to take up a new 4D green-ray body upon the next incarnation in the already electromagnetically-calibrated 4D planetary sphere.

The least common of all cases will be a physical/genetic/chemical transmutation that will either reconfigure a 3D body to dual 3D/4D and/or to full 4D early-green body activation. This will be, as I surmise, rare and only occur in isolated instances.

There are other related instances in which the 3rd density entity may be "assisted" by 4th density entities in the transition process.

Whichever the case, the yellow-ray body must be either "shed" or transfigured into a green-ray body proper of a 4th density entity dwelling within a 4th density planetary environment.

When/if you truly realize bodies serve merely as a physical vessels/containers, then you will not worry as to whether you drop it or lose it or swap it for another.

What is astral travel like and how can it easily be done?

There are various aspects (as well as divergent opinions) to what is and what constitutes "astral travel" or "astral projection" (I do find these terms clumsy, I must say). In essence, what is generally regarded as "astral travel" is an "out-of-body" experience that occurs in the time/space portion of reality (whilst the body remains at rest in space/time).

Is this what you are inquiring about? I could offer advice and guidance (based on personal experience), but I would first like to know what is your understand of "astral travel" and what do you expect of it.

I will tell you, however, that given the proper dedication, stimulus, desire/intention, discipline and practice, it is relatively easy to achieve.

Is there any information you enjoy sharing and teaching others?

Yes! There is Infinity. This is All There Is. This is the Source and One Infinite Creator. There is no other. Thus, the only possible service is service to Self/One/All There Is. And the purpose of Creation is experience.

How exactly does astrology work, if it does?

You may have heard of "sacred geometry." The Creation of the One Infinite Creator is one of beautiful, intricate intelligent design and perfect order/balance. Astrology is based on the principle/law of resonance ("like attracts like"), or to put it differently: "soul frequency vibratory-match." Various archetypical biases, personality quirks, talents, gifts, proclivities, strengths, weaknesses and limitations are mathematically determined by spacial/temporal ratios—in the case of an incarnation, by point of entrance (i.e. time/place of birth in relation to other planets and stars). This is not to say one is "doomed" in a pre-destined fatalistic way, but rather, than one has pre-incarnatively chosen the "customization," so to speak, of the incarnation; which can be revealed/reviewed/examined by the system of astrology (not the daily horoscope you find in the newspaper or beauty magazines, mind you). So in that sense, astrology can be quite useful for psycho-analysis.

This was great! Thank you so much! This was much, much appreciated. I guess I already have been prepared for this shift, I would actually since birth. Questions have been raised in my mind literally since as far back as I can remember. I was a 4 year old going around looking at my fingers saying "I can't believe this is real". I don't know if I was incarnated at this time for a special purpose but whether I did or not is irrelevant anyway.

For as far as the shift and its occurrence, I completely see what you are saying. Basically, it is something that is occurring on an individual level which of course will translate to a higher mass conscious level with each generation that passes. So, by myself living in this thought that we are all one, the body is not who I actually am, the importance and significance of the thoughts we think, and that emotions should not be held on to in the sense where we live in anywhere but the moment, others will follow and it will increase planetary vibrations!? I can feel myself influencing others. Concern is that I do have negative emotions from time to time but I allow them to pass and I live in the moment.

Basically how will I know that I am "ascending", how will I "ascend", and when will I "ascend"?

Astral Travel- astral travel is something that has always interests me because I get quite frustrated with the limitations our body poses. I always want to be experiencing more. It seems, as if, astral projection will allow me to get even more in touch with my higher self and my larger understanding. From what my idea of it is, is that it is almost exactly what you said. Existence out of 3rd dimensional time-space limitations and it is basically putting our awareness on another part of ourselves that already exist. If you have a simple way of on how to do so, please tell!

What you said on how to prepare for it and the simple choice clicked in me that I am already prepared. I do follow a purpose with no doubts, and that simple choice and that awareness of the Law of One is the reason behind all my choices. I can't see myself living any other way really because it just feels right, and just feels like the truth.


Thank you!

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BTW if it sounds like i misunderstood anything, feel free to correct me as I am still learning.

[reeay]

Great! You remind me of the young man in Paolo Coelho's novel The Alchemist, who goes on a journey to find treasures, discovers the treasures within himself... have you read this book? Kind of reminds me of the journey taken by The Fool in Tarot. Perhaps you are becoming the sage that you already are . Thank you for sharing!

[010894]

Great! You remind me of the young man in Paolo Coelho's novel The Alchemist, who goes on a journey to find treasures, discovers the treasures within himself... have you read this book? Kind of reminds me of the journey taken by The Fool in Tarot. Perhaps you are becoming the sage that you already are . Thank you for sharing!

Haha no never read it definitely have to though. and yea i definitely have a lot of sag qualities in me even though it's just my moon sign. Capricorn/Sag mix is nice. I definitely have to read those books, thank you for sharing!

[reeay]

yea i definitely have a lot of sag qualities in me even though it's just my moon sign. Capricorn/Sag mix is nice.

I meant like a wise sage (but yes Sagittarius/Jupitarians could be wise sages too). Forgot to mention - your chart also reminded me of Carl Roger's (a humanistic psychologist) chart - stellium in Capricorn. Saturnian influence. His work was a lovely synthesis of many great works and philosophies from many places. He understood people at a deep level, could relate to others with love & acceptance, and he had a personal style that was so warm. I think he is a true wise sage (but I'm biased because I love him so much). He also wrote a book called On Becoming a Person... which is funny because your first house is about "becoming." lol parallels... not perfect parallel, but I see it.

[010894]

yea i definitely have a lot of sag qualities in me even though it's just my moon sign. Capricorn/Sag mix is nice.

I meant like a wise sage (but yes Sagittarius/Jupitarians could be wise sages too). Forgot to mention - your chart also reminded me of Carl Roger's (a humanistic psychologist) chart - stellium in Capricorn. Saturnian influence. His work was a lovely synthesis of many great works and philosophies from many places. He understood people at a deep level, could relate to others with love & acceptance, and he had a personal style that was so warm. I think he is a true wise sage (but I'm biased because I love him so much). He also wrote a book called On Becoming a Person... which is funny because your first house is about "becoming." lol parallels... not perfect parallel, but I see it.

Haha ah i get you! Damn you read a lot i have to get on all these books soon enough, haven't read too much in my life really besides a crazy amount of things on the internet. Thanks a lot, again, i appreciate your insight very muc

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BTW I did some meditation before and I think I understand the shift a little better or have some new thoughts. You know when you can see something in your head but you can't necessarily "see" it. Like how are you seeing it? Is that through your 4th dimensional self? Necessarily what we dream and imagine through? Much like we're aware of our lower dimensional selves such as our body functions and all of that sort. Just a thought.

Also, my belief on how it will occur seems to be over time. It is already happening, but from my view maybe it's just the beginning. Over time, generations are getting increasingly more aware, more rebellious, and liberal. Are these generations eventually going to grow into our new world and mind state that we will evolve into a 4th dimensional planet together yet individually? As older systems and beliefs die out, new thinkers and new systems are replacing them. Also, science seems to be crossing with spirituality at this point with Quantum Physics and all that. I watched a video recently on a multi-verse theory. I feel that we are going into a new society together. It would be nice to believe that it is not something that has a deadline. Subconscious thoughts seem to be merging to conscious thoughts for many at a time and through an individual basis particular to ones journey. This is what I would hope to believe.

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BTW I did some meditation before and I think I understand the shift a little better or have some new thoughts. You know when you can see something in your head but you can't necessarily "see" it. Like how are you seeing it? Is that through your 4th dimensional self? Necessarily what we dream and imagine through? Much like we're aware of our lower dimensional selves such as our body functions and all of that sort. Just a thought.

Also, my belief on how it will occur seems to be over time. It is already happening, but from my view maybe it's just the beginning. Over time, generations are getting increasingly more aware, more rebellious, and liberal. Are these generations eventually going to grow into our new world and mind state that we will evolve into a 4th dimensional planet together yet individually? As older systems and beliefs die out, new thinkers and new systems are replacing them. Also, science seems to be crossing with spirituality at this point with Quantum Physics and all that. I watched a video recently on a multi-verse theory. I feel that we are going into a new society together. It would be nice to believe that it is not something that has a deadline. Subconscious thoughts seem to be merging to conscious thoughts for many at a time and through an individual basis particular to ones journey. This is what I would hope to believe.