4 months to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Asked a divination practitioner/scholar in asia about 12/21/2012 and all he said was that the date was connected with the element of Water... whatever that means.

Water is mutable, it can change to fill any form.

I've been feeling a little put out recently. It's like I'm surfing on an oil slick and it takes all my concentration just to keep my balance. Things just keep popping up and I have to deal with them right away, and then I have no time to do the things I actually want to do. It feels like things are just speeding up and all I want to do is sit down on the grass somewhere and look at the fall colours.

It's all seeming so absurd. My job, politics . . . the whole 'rat race' we've turned society into. I just can't seem to care about any of it anymore, yet it seems like everyone expects me too. I'd like to quit my job and just read books and meditate all day, but that's not really an option.

I guess I just have to hold steady and have faith that we'll reach a turning point soon

[Patrick]

...I just can't seem to care about any of it anymore, yet it seems like everyone expects me too...

Welcome to the club.

[reeay]

It's like I'm surfing on an oil slick and it takes all my concentration just to keep my balance.

That's right! Oil may be slick but you could train yourself to be a great surfer by being a great balancer and flowing with the forces!

In this form of (chinese) divination, water could mean having the choice/freedom to flow where you choose to flow. There is a sense of freedom to choose your path. Or being like the water in the ocean... vast and moving together as a whole etc. etc.

It could also be experienced on the mundane level, as having a water-event on the date.

So I guess we could choose how to use the power of "water"

Time is crumbling slowly it feels like

[jacrob]

Asked a divination practitioner/scholar in asia about 12/21/2012 and all he said was that the date was connected with the element of Water... whatever that means.

Water is mutable, it can change to fill any form.

I've been feeling a little put out recently. It's like I'm surfing on an oil slick and it takes all my concentration just to keep my balance. Things just keep popping up and I have to deal with them right away, and then I have no time to do the things I actually want to do. It feels like things are just speeding up and all I want to do is sit down on the grass somewhere and look at the fall colours.

It's all seeming so absurd. My job, politics . . . the whole 'rat race' we've turned society into. I just can't seem to care about any of it anymore, yet it seems like everyone expects me too. I'd like to quit my job and just read books and meditate all day, but that's not really an option.

I guess I just have to hold steady and have faith that we'll reach a turning point soon

ride it out for a bit, you are probably on an emotional low but it'll springboard to better times.

[Parsons]

I 'can' wait now that there is only 69 days left. I'm trying to savor it now.

Although to tell you the truth over the past week or so my patience has worn thin... I've been pretty cranky when driving in traffic; where as before I was more understanding in recent months. I don't know how much longer I can maintain my polarity, so at the same time I'm glad there isn't much time left.

P.S. The way I understand it, it could happen any time between now and Dec 21st (between the equinox and the solstice) without warning. I had a hilarious thought today: what if I happened to be on the toilet when it happened? That would be pretty embarassing at the moment but make for a good story later on.

[Patrick]

It looks like psychotherapists are going to make a fortune in 2013 with lightworkers.

Just kidding, but this forum will be very helpful to go through this period. We can help each others.

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Asked a divination practitioner/scholar in asia about 12/21/2012 and all he said was that the date was connected with the element of Water... whatever that means.

Water is mutable, it can change to fill any form.

I've been feeling a little put out recently. It's like I'm surfing on an oil slick and it takes all my concentration just to keep my balance. Things just keep popping up and I have to deal with them right away, and then I have no time to do the things I actually want to do. It feels like things are just speeding up and all I want to do is sit down on the grass somewhere and look at the fall colours.

It's all seeming so absurd. My job, politics . . . the whole 'rat race' we've turned society into. I just can't seem to care about any of it anymore, yet it seems like everyone expects me too. I'd like to quit my job and just read books and meditate all day, but that's not really an option.

I guess I just have to hold steady and have faith that we'll reach a turning point soon

ride it out for a bit, you are probably on an emotional low but it'll springboard to better times.

Yeah, I think part of it is that I haven't had a good meditation session in a while too.

[reeay]

It looks like psychotherapists are going to make a fortune in 2013 with lightworkers.

Just kidding, but this forum will be very helpful to go through this period. We can help each others.

psychotherapists and lightworkers don't make much lol

So true, this forum is awesome.



I think for me the date is a catalyst... to do my job here with deep concentration and dedication to be more like my real self .

[BlatzAdict]

Guys I've been thinking

is it truly enough to have just the intention to be STO?

Because I've been thinking what if 4D isn't much like what we have today


Its not enough to have the right intention, we need to have the wisdom to carry out that intention.

I've been struggling with the issue of maybe I'm not worthy to ascend STO simply because of so many of the day to day things I do.

I used to work at starbucks and i would take home all the sandwiches we were throwing out for the day and i'd go bring it to the homeless. This was before I even read the LOO

And I realize then as much as I do now, we need to make changes with "action" besides just having the intention no?


Whether those changes come from doing an act or meditating and bringing more galactic energy from the central sun to our planet.. We still need to do something!

They say that the 4d beings are martyrs because they are always willing to go so far in the name of STO.


I keep thinking about my past life coming here with the confederation we thought, i thought hey those guys are living like savages let's just give them our technology and they'll do fine. wrong! that's exactly what we shouldn't have done and well i don't know about you but i've been on a karmic issue on this my whole time on earth in all of my incarnations

all of them had to do with ego.

noninterference, forgiving myself and others, trusting others to make the WRONG decision, so that they may grow wiser in the end, instead of giving them their candy and letting them get spoiled.

does this make sense?

Perhaps I'm penetrating into 5D problems ascending into 6th. because i do see the necessity of STS in regards to catalyst and making people want to polarize STO.

Perhaps these thoughts alone will ascend me back into 6th. if i even come from the 6th.


but it's simply not enough to want to save the world, we need to do something.

this rock stands still on a table, and there is no wind to push it, there is nothing to change it's location, and nothing to affect that change until we pick it up and put it somewhere else.

i know that's very simple, and a very crude example.. but how are we supposed to be of service.

i keep wanting to be of service in a big way, and find more often than not my service is relegated to uplifting the spirits of some random stranger as opposed to signing the deal that would end capitalism forever.

I'm ambitious to do anything to make this harvest happen sooner rather than later, and I know it's supposed to happen as the clock reaches the hour, and it's more of a set thing in time that is supposed to happen.


I'm impatient.

[AnthroHeart]

Blatz, I know what you mean. I feel like I should be doing something, but then what? And then I'm not motivated to make a change sometimes.
I'm patient to wait till the end of the year to see if anything happens.
But I do things in life that I'm not sure what's true or not.
I keep coming across philosophies of repentance, and having to repent, and such, and thinking about that.
If we forgive ourself, what is there to repent of? And then I think that's a church term, and very religious.
I don't think that repentance is in line with the LOO. But we want to do our best. If we feel we are doing wrong,
then that's maybe something that needs to change to polarize STO. I'm not sure. I feel these things are a part of me.
I just want to be able to see through the illusion. I'm tired of not knowing. And I don't want to be punished because of seeking my own bliss.

[reeay]

[kanonathena]

I thought LOO said 2012 is only the time when earth is 4th density capable, we still have to die in order to be reborn into 4D. SO there is nothing to be expected around this year except we could become more aware of the truth due to the 4d light and use it for spiritual seeking, is this the current understanding?

[Parsons]

@kanonathena that is the sentiment of several members of this forums who seemed to have dominated the discussion of the matter since the forums were founded. This thread seems to be for people who believe there will be sudden shift (such as myself) that are excited about the very little remaining time. Argument / discussion of this can be directed at the 'abrupt vs gradual' thread.

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@Blatz & GW

This point is repeated ad nauseum by Q'uo over the many years of channelings:

When a flower blooms, my friends, does it consider whether it is seen? Or does it respond to its nature and follow the ways of ripening, the call of the summer sun, and the sudden joy of its own beauty? This is the essence of being and inner work, as opposed to doing and outer work. Inner work has to do not only with the truth of yourself and your rhythms of maturing. It has to do not only with the timing of the summer sun. More than anything, it has to do with your willingness to allow your own sovereign beauty to bloom, unseen by human eyes.

In terms of the world, “radiancy of being” is just a collection of words. To the outer world, if you want radiancy of being, you put on cosmetics. They might be rouge and powder on your face. They might be the addition of practiced charm to your speech. But in terms of the world of action and outer things, radiancy is a matter of adjusting your mask and your persona so that you may most easily be perceived as being radiant, service-to-others, a loving person, and so forth.

In terms of the spirit, on the other hand, radiancy of being is the first and foremost service which all entities in incarnation on Planet Earth this day have to offer.

If your 'doing' that you want to so badly involves trying to wake people up in some fashion, you should also read this Q'uo'te:

The first distortion is all-important when one is attempting to be of service to others. If entities have not asked for your service, then we would ask you, as one who wishes to serve, if there is an overriding reason why other entities’ sleep must be disturbed?

If there were only this lifetime and only this graduation, then perhaps we might agree that everyone should be shaken by the throat and told to wake up. However, there is all the time in the creation for entities to progress. While it is true that you now are at a time of graduation, a time of harvest, we would suggest that there shall be other harvests; there shall be other graduations. If a seeker needs to repeat third density, needs to repeat third grade, shall we say, in the school of souls, that is not a tragedy nor is it anything of which to be ashamed. Each entity shall progress. Each entity shall one day have accomplished every lesson, have satisfied every desire, and shall return to the one infinite Creator.

[Confused]

@kanonathena that is the sentiment of several members of this forums who seemed to have dominated the discussion of the matter since the forums were founded. This thread seems to be for people who believe there will be sudden shift (such as myself) that are excited about the very little remaining time. Argument / discussion of this can be directed at the 'abrupt vs gradual' thread.

Parsons, I am proud of you, mate, for stating your beliefs boldly and standing them up for the test of time. I say that because I think you are not in the majority at the moment. Standing for one's beliefs, even while in the minority, calls for some real reserves of mental energy.

Universal truths and workings are not dependent on any individual's or group's beliefs or preferences. Whether abrupt or gradual, it will be as it will be in terms of how it was designed to be by the powers that we do not yet understand of, in my opinion. Meanwhile, along with you and the rest of the wonderful folk here at b4th, I resolve to live moment by moment, clothing myself in the highest form of love and service for others, while couching it in commonsense (or what Ra would call as mixing love with wisdom)

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And I don't want to be punished because of seeking my own bliss.

Lovely statement there, GW! I really liked it. Wonderfully put

[reeay]

Will you be OK if nothing major happens on this date?

[AnthroHeart]

I'll be fine if nothing happens. I've already had some magical things happen in my life over the last few years. Albeit they've been scary at times, but what an adventure.

[reeay]

Yeah I can relate to that... which makes this 3D life SO AMAZING! I'm sure life in other densities is amazing, too. But with all this "suffering" we've experienced it's just magical.

[kanonathena]

Thanks for the quotes, Parsons, it certainly points to the nature of seeking. The second quote gives me great comfort and put me in perspective.

[AnthroHeart]

Yeah I can relate to that... which makes this 3D life SO AMAZING! I'm sure life in other densities is amazing, too. But with all this "suffering" we've experienced it's just magical.

Yeah, my mom thinks I'm crazy because I "talk with the internet". I used to have an experience where I'd see videos on YouTube that didn't really exist in our dimension. I'd like to get back to that state because I learned things about how our Universe works that I was not privy to before. But I'm ok if I don't get there. The psych meds I was on before blocked any kind of experiences like this, plus they're toxic. My mom is upset because I don't stay on them.

[reeay]

I've met many people who stop taking their meds and make great progress. You have your healing plans set? Other than connecting with people on Bring4th

[AnthroHeart]

Yeah, I've been researching alternative health methods such as taking Omega 3 and B Vitamins that can help with the mental issues. The experiences would be ok, if I didn't just freak out during them. I've felt like I was in heaven as well.

[reeay]

Great! Our bodies take a while to readjust, especially after taking psych meds... some people experience the side effects of the meds within months or years after stopping w/ the meds. So it's probably good to monitor that and find ways to deal with the long-term side effects if you do experience them. I know some went the alternative healing way and meditation way etc.

[sequoyah]

my thoughts, Those of Q'uo said the changes were taking place in the unseen world, that this would have an effect on the physical but that is not where the changes are taking place directly. So I expect that day to come and go like any other and only if your an empath or intuitive you may feel something or more likely have a very dream the night before if you can remember it.

They said by the vertices this physical 3rd density Earth would likely last another 100-150 years. You are harvested at end of your incarnation, meaning your next incarnation can choose to be on 4th density Earth. After this date, 12/21/12 it no longer those who need 3rd density work incarnate here.

"This whole-hearted stretching and reaching for the light and this growing desire to learn the truth among so many of your people have greatly aided the situation as regards the strength of the field of third density at this time. It is very likely—and we are looking only at probability vortices, not actual predictions—that your people will not only be able to live out their current incarnations here but that there will be enough energy within third density to maintain third-density bodies and the energies of evolution, in terms of the spirit, for some of your time, perhaps as many as a hundred or a hundred and fifty of your years. It is difficult but not impossible to predict with any accuracy what shall occur with your people. However, the time of third density for doing third-density work is virtually over."

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0101.aspx

I for the record would like some kind of incredible display in the sky on that day to make everyone awaken, but I don't count on it.

[zenmaster]

I for the record would like some kind of incredible display in the sky on that day to make everyone awaken, but I don't count on it.

Why would a sky display make everyone awaken?

[NternalArchitect]

The 4th density magnetized light in-pouring into our realm of experience shouldn't be taken lightly. It'll go into the planetary ley lines, and into our electromagnetic ley lines. This means that the energy that goes through your chakras will be entirely different. Like a quantum leap, we are on 3rd Density magnetized until the leap. There are upticks in intensity, but until we cross that threshold, 4D light won't exist in our energy fields. This should be wholly transformative from the very beginning. I imagine our ability to contact intelligent infinity and do work in intelligent energy will make a leap as well. If your chakra balance allows for the love/light to enter your pineal gland/throat/heart centers, then look out.

I'm sure there will be an event regardless. and I don't think it'll be 12-21 precisely. It is governed by when we first began 3rd density experience. It may be sooner. There will be such a jump that our thoughts and disharmonies will become apparent. We will have to know when intelligent energy opens to intelligent infinity. Either there will be a global earth movement, or maybe spirals in the sky like the ancients have seen and depicted in their art through all cultures. I don't know. We will when it happens for sure.

9.3 "This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour."

15.9 Questioner: Can you tell me a little more about the word, “balancing,” as we are using it?
Ra: I am Ra. Picture, if you will, the One Infinite. You have no picture. Thus, the process begins. Love, creating light, becoming love/light, streams into the planetary sphere according to the electromagnetic web of points or nexi of entrance. These streamings are then available to the individual who, like the planet, is a web of electromagnetic energy fields with points or nexi of entrance.

In a balanced individual each energy center is balanced and functioning brightly and fully. The blockages of your planetary sphere cause some distortion of intelligent energy. The blockages of the mind/body/spirit complex further distort or unbalance this energy. There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy.

59.24 Questioner: When the planetary axis realigns, will it realign 20° east of north to conform to the green vibration?
Ra:I am Ra. We fear this shall be the last question as this entity rapidly increases its distortion towards what you call pain of the body complex.

There is every indication that this will occur. We cannot speak of certainties but are aware that the grosser or less dense materials will be pulled into conformation with the denser and lighter energies which give your Logos its proceedings through the realms of experience.

EDIT:

My previous concept was a bit off. The particles of true-green are being formed already. The difference will be when through the movement of the pole, will be mostly mostly green.

[reeay]

What does that mean... "to awaken"

A set sequence of events? A marker point? A process that continues beyond that moment of knowing?

I think I read from Q'uo as an experience of knowing what we're here for and that knowing what this life experience was about.

[zenmaster]

The 4th density magnetized light in-pouring into our realm of experience shouldn't be taken lightly. It'll go into the planetary ley lines, and into our electromagnetic ley lines.

We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences. It is the importance placed upon it.

[NternalArchitect]

The 4th density magnetized light in-pouring into our realm of experience shouldn't be taken lightly. It'll go into the planetary ley lines, and into our electromagnetic ley lines.

We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences. It is the importance placed upon it.

I see what you did there..

It's multiple things.. a fun intellectual pursuit of understanding. Trying to wrap my head around the mechanics of what is happening. Nothing wrong with that.

The final movement of vibratory matter (the earth into the right north pole location?), and quantum leap, will be a significant change. 4D light into your chakras? That's where we pull our experience, and manifest the moments of our life. We underestimate the 4D magnetized light.

[zenmaster]

Circumstantial or incidental, allegorical crap, such as that, function as a meaningless mirror. It's "fun" in the same way that projection of hopes and fears is fun. It's basically an opportunity for disowned, rejected, abandoned aspects of self to be put into a pool for everyone to evaluate and possibly something someone else eventually says about it transforms it into more suitable catalyst for digestion. I'll take it lightly.

[NternalArchitect]

ZM, your display picture suites you.. that's the fish that has the illuminated light coming out of its head right? The bait?

While it lurks in the dark, the bait lamp is a false pretense tempting those who come in search of light..