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    Aion (Offline)

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    #181
    05-13-2015, 04:56 AM
    (05-13-2015, 04:37 AM)Indigo Light Wrote: I definitely agree with this. Would you say, that you find/found, sorrow. Close to what I describe?

    From the root to the heart we are gummed up with sorrow. This is because it is sorrow that still needs to be felt fully and so released.
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    #182
    05-13-2015, 05:06 AM
    (05-12-2015, 08:20 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:55 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:49 PM)Minyatur Wrote: @Lighthead I love how you're asking questions about him and I'm asking questions about myself.

    Lol. To be fair, I did ask him one question about myself privately. How often do we get to talk to Belial? Just kidding, Tan.rar. I didn't mean to put you on the spot!

    At first I didn't like the idea of being one of the "sons" but then it came to me I've probably never wanted to be a leader, makes more sense if I was looking for someone to follow or aid in his own cause rather than having my own.

    I'm the kind of entity that's probably never tried to go anywhere truly for himself. Been drifting through chaos, that's all.

    I feel close to that. Just drifting. I have never wanted to be a/the leader. I hate giving commands. I see myself as like a comfortable 3rd. I find myself quiet like you minyutar. I have no serious goals, that just burn me up, and I strive for with complete passion. Im just damn neutral ok. I want to just chill experience, live a bohemian lifestyle, and just kick it. I feel like I have witnessed and underwent a lot of strive. Thanks to old Balial here. aka myself. On a serious note, I feel like I fought against Balial sons but fell myself. Still hurt from the gaping wound. Im not sure though. I can sense some stuff past the veil. But nothing you can consider as full on accurate.

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    #183
    05-13-2015, 05:08 AM
    I am back with a vengeful blade. I will assist in toppling these beings, from this beautiful planet. Then I will journey around the Earth helping to bring her back to life.

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    #184
    05-13-2015, 05:13 AM
    I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.
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    #185
    05-13-2015, 05:24 AM
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That felt good to read tan.rar Ill push with you

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    #186
    05-13-2015, 05:31 AM
    If you wish to rally under me then simply call my angelic name - Michael. The legions of the host of light, I am calling to you.

    Know this that at the time that I was Belial, I had not yet realized that I was Michael. Some believe that Michael never received free will from God, from the One, or that he gave it back or rejected it. This is true, but in his rejection he fell because he could not accept God's gift, could not accept his own individual will that was not absolutely the Creator's will. Thus began the saga. It was Michael that fell, Lucifer, Samael, these are names taken from corrupted images of other beings.

    I fell and now I rise again as Thoth descends and ascends from Amenti.
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    #187
    05-13-2015, 05:35 AM
    (05-13-2015, 05:31 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: If you wish to rally under me then simply call my angelic name - Michael. The legions of the host of light, I am calling to you.

    Know this that at the time that I was Belial, I had not yet realized that I was Michael. Some believe that Michael never received free will from God, from the One, or that he gave it back or rejected it. This is true, but in his rejection he fell because he could not accept God's gift, could not accept his own individual will that was not absolutely the Creator's will. Thus began the saga. It was Michael that fell, Lucifer, Samael, these are names taken from corrupted images of other beings.

    I fell and now I rise again as Thoth descends and ascends from Amenti.

    Michael I rally to your banner. Together we shall surely restore balance.

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    #188
    05-13-2015, 05:39 AM
    (05-13-2015, 05:35 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:31 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: If you wish to rally under me then simply call my angelic name - Michael. The legions of the host of light, I am calling to you.

    Know this that at the time that I was Belial, I had not yet realized that I was Michael. Some believe that Michael never received free will from God, from the One, or that he gave it back or rejected it. This is true, but in his rejection he fell because he could not accept God's gift, could not accept his own individual will that was not absolutely the Creator's will. Thus began the saga. It was Michael that fell, Lucifer, Samael, these are names taken from corrupted images of other beings.

    I fell and now I rise again as Thoth descends and ascends from Amenti.

    Michael I rally to your banner. Together we shall surely restore balance.

    The more we believe in eachother, the more we believe in the Creator in each and every one of us, the more we dissolve the distortions of the corrupted images. We must have faith in our brothers and sisters of sorrow and join our hearts together in chorus across the world and proclaim, nay, claim, our freedom. It is easy to say that freedom is all a matter of the mind, but the problem is that the mind is what keeps us from being free. This is because there are so many minds which are not free, which are not unencumbered by sorrow. We heal our sorrow and see sorrow lifted from the collective heart.
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    05-13-2015, 11:23 AM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 11:29 AM by Minyatur.)
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

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    #190
    05-13-2015, 11:39 AM
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    I see what you mean minyatur, however, I believe intent is the center piece of free will. Or rather Free will directly manifested. As seen in 3rd density. So what Tan.Rar Speaks of sounds a lot like Ra's own past. Were his perceptions was of the role he was suppose to fulfill in the dance. In the highest view. Though we speak from perceptions we are self's still anchor in 3rd density. Its speculative at best to even speak of 4,5,6,7 and beyond from this view. The creator is infinite. Tan.Rar has chosen as Ra has to come help move Earth forward through love. As have I.

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    #191
    05-13-2015, 11:40 AM
    (05-13-2015, 03:17 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:05 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Do you know me to have a soul mate? I've been wondering if this is a dellusion of my current incarnation or if this is a key to where I am now.


    If so, how would you describe that entity?

    You have many soul mates but you are looking for one in particular, one you were estranged from it seems. I get a general sense of sorrow and an aura of love lost and promises broken.

    Is this particular soul mate closer to be my twin flame or would I see no distinction without this veil?

    Also I'd be interested in knowing the background of this particular soul mate. Was she a Godess or was she one of us?

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    #192
    05-13-2015, 11:42 AM
    (05-13-2015, 11:39 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    I see what you mean minyatur, however, I believe intent is the center piece of free will. Or rather Free will directly manifested. As seen in 3rd density. So what Tan.Rar Speaks of sounds a lot like Ra's own past. Were his perceptions was of the role he was suppose to fulfill in the dance. In the highest view. Though we speak from perceptions we are self's still anchor in 3rd density. Its speculative at best to even speak of 4,5,6,7 and beyond from this view. The creator is infinite. Tan.Rar has chosen as Ra has to come help move Earth forward through love. As have I.

    I know that but I also do like to state the inevitable which follows the dellusions of how we try to be of service. 

    I seem the only one here to think that the earth is well.

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    #193
    05-13-2015, 11:44 AM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 11:45 AM by Minyatur.)
    (05-13-2015, 04:56 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 04:37 AM)Indigo Light Wrote: I definitely agree with this. Would you say, that you find/found, sorrow. Close to what I describe?

    From the root to the heart we are gummed up with sorrow. This is because it is sorrow that still needs to be felt fully and so released.

    I feel an abyss of sorrow within my heart chakra as I said but this abyss is very weightfree. I would not cast away this sorrow nor would I transmute it in something different. It seems rightfully part of myself.

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    #194
    05-13-2015, 11:45 AM
    (05-13-2015, 11:42 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:39 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    I see what you mean minyatur, however, I believe intent is the center piece of free will. Or rather Free will directly manifested. As seen in 3rd density. So what Tan.Rar Speaks of sounds a lot like Ra's own past. Were his perceptions was of the role he was suppose to fulfill in the dance. In the highest view. Though we speak from perceptions we are self's still anchor in 3rd density. Its speculative at best to even speak of 4,5,6,7 and beyond from this view. The creator is infinite. Tan.Rar has chosen as Ra has to come help move Earth forward through love. As have I.

    I know that but I also do like to state the inevitable which follows the dellusions of how we try to be of service. 

    I seem the only one here to think that the earth is well.

    I see what you mean. We all think were heros came to the Great Battle of The Ages. It all rests on are shoulders. As long as you have love in your heart. Your Great Sword the flaming weapon of love. Then let perceptions be what they are. Who knows the one might manifest the one. In the game. One of us might be the hero. Its just fun. Earth is well, There is only One.

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    05-13-2015, 12:10 PM
    I wish I knew so much about my pasts. Or if I even have a soul mate or twin flame incarnate.

    Yet I'm basically like a few have said, I'm neutral in the sense of being calm and feeling almost empty of desire beyond Living and Loving. As a child I had only those two desires, to Live and Love. I don't want to do anything else. Yet having found it so hard to do, I've taken up oddities in my handling.

    I feel like a mirror sometimes. Like I'm just a very shallow personality, with a huge depth underneath of being that is capable of infinity, but limited to this incarnation in a very specific way as to simply be whatever I need to be for the moment at hand. I guess I'm trying to say I'm more empath than anything else. When I was operating from an Open Heart and performing Work in Consciousness between the aid of actually learning nonverbal psychology, seeing the invisible way of energy, intuition, and the discipline of the personality I as partaking in at the time. I felt like I was nearing the actual providing of being the Creator as closely as I could.

    Which didn't end well for my personality, which already being shallow, once I stopped practicing, almost disintegrated... (Felt like I was literally losing all sense of understanding of everything, nothing made sense...) Thankfully, I had...A lot of aid at that time, looking back I'm certain now.

    ...Jeez. I owe my friends, my guides, a lot of...Whatever extremely nice thing I can do for them in return for helping me so fervently in this incarnation. So effectively too. I really need to thank them more for all of these things hah.
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    05-13-2015, 12:15 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 12:20 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-13-2015, 11:45 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:42 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:39 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    I see what you mean minyatur, however, I believe intent is the center piece of free will. Or rather Free will directly manifested. As seen in 3rd density. So what Tan.Rar Speaks of sounds a lot like Ra's own past. Were his perceptions was of the role he was suppose to fulfill in the dance. In the highest view. Though we speak from perceptions we are self's still anchor in 3rd density. Its speculative at best to even speak of 4,5,6,7 and beyond from this view. The creator is infinite. Tan.Rar has chosen as Ra has to come help move Earth forward through love. As have I.

    I know that but I also do like to state the inevitable which follows the dellusions of how we try to be of service. 

    I seem the only one here to think that the earth is well.

    I see what you mean. We all think were heros came to the Great Battle of The Ages. It all rests on are shoulders. As long as you have love in your heart. Your Great Sword the flaming weapon of love. Then let perceptions be what they are. Who knows the one might manifest the one. In the game. One of us might be the hero. Its just fun. Earth is well, There is only One.

    I feel tired of fighting or even trying to make things a given way and this incarnation seems a lot about perceving the perfection of things as they are.

    Being a source for others to play this silly game seems more appealing than partaking in this one.

    Awareness that whether you intend it or not, you are always playing the required role for other-selves seems also central to my learnings.
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    05-13-2015, 12:20 PM
    @VanAlioSaldo

    I re-read your wanderer story yesterday and what I resonated with most was your feeling of tiredness.

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    05-13-2015, 12:21 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 12:29 PM by Minyatur.)
    I get the feeling Tan was always the kind of entity to shoulder things on himself.

    Possibly an imbalance I liked about him.

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    05-13-2015, 12:40 PM
    (05-13-2015, 12:15 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:45 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:42 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:39 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote: That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    I see what you mean minyatur, however, I believe intent is the center piece of free will. Or rather Free will directly manifested. As seen in 3rd density. So what Tan.Rar Speaks of sounds a lot like Ra's own past. Were his perceptions was of the role he was suppose to fulfill in the dance. In the highest view. Though we speak from perceptions we are self's still anchor in 3rd density. Its speculative at best to even speak of 4,5,6,7 and beyond from this view. The creator is infinite. Tan.Rar has chosen as Ra has to come help move Earth forward through love. As have I.

    I know that but I also do like to state the inevitable which follows the dellusions of how we try to be of service. 

    I seem the only one here to think that the earth is well.

    I see what you mean. We all think were heros came to the Great Battle of The Ages. It all rests on are shoulders. As long as you have love in your heart. Your Great Sword the flaming weapon of love. Then let perceptions be what they are. Who knows the one might manifest the one. In the game. One of us might be the hero. Its just fun. Earth is well, There is only One.

    I feel tired of fighting or even trying to make things a given way and this incarnation seems a lot about perceving the perfection of things as they are.

    Being a source for others to play this silly game seems more appealing than partaking in this one.

    Awareness that whether you intend it or not, you are always playing the required role for other-selves seems also central to my learnings.

    I agree with the first, and last statements. I am extremely tired of fighting. I think this one of my central lessons as well. To just be, flow through like the great wave of the creator. I wont say I can see every piece, or can tell im on the stage all the time myself. I am not fighting, but I am no entities play toy. I will be a mirror, and suffer anything I must for all of myself. Its about concepts. I am no toy.

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    05-13-2015, 12:54 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 01:00 PM by Aion.)
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    As I have said variously before, I am well aware of these, and I have constructed my path by my own choice. Perhaps it is self-centered, but I don't think it's any less self-centered than the belief that I am the One Infinite Creator. I am simply following my heart's truest path. Perhaps in the end this will all be dispelled as a big illusion, I can accept that, but right now, in my deepest honesty, these are the things I feel and I experience. I am not going to delude myself or be dishonest with myself for the sake of "letting go", that isn't balanced either. I have to go through my experiences and accept them as they come, not try to control them.

    So, thus, I accept that perhaps to others my thoughts, opinions and ideas will come across in many ways. It is not my job to interpret my thoughts for you, only to be myself.

    Everything I say is part of the act. Perhaps it would help you to consider that I am only offering the story from the perspective of my limited consciousness, I am not attempting to be all-inclusive of all possible views. I am expressing my own thoughts and experiences, not those of others.
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    05-13-2015, 12:59 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 01:03 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-13-2015, 12:40 PM)Indigo Light Wrote: I agree with the first, and last statements. I am extremely tired of fighting. I think this one of my central lessons as well. To just be, flow through like the great wave of the creator. I wont say I can see every piece, or can tell im on the stage all the time myself. I am not fighting, but I am no entities play toy. I will be a mirror, and suffer anything I must for all of myself. Its about concepts. I am no toy.

    Yeah the mirror thing, all I've said about this was related to my lesson about mirrors. Consciously and uncousciously we act as mirrors for other-selves and in this plane it is very easy to see even in the small things.

    Karma plays a big role to keep you in your mirror role when you're trying to do otherwise.
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    05-13-2015, 01:02 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 01:04 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-13-2015, 12:54 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    As I have said variously before, I am well aware of these, and I have constructed my path by my own choice. Perhaps it is self-centered, but I don't think it's any less self-centered than the belief that I am the One Infinite Creator. I am simply following my heart's truest path. Perhaps in the end this will all be dispelled as a big illusion, I can accept that, but right now, in my deepest honesty, these are the things I feel and I experience. I am not going to delude myself or be dishonest with myself for the sake of "letting go", that isn't balanced either. I have to go through my experiences and accept them as they come, not try to control them.

    So, thus, I accept that perhaps to others my thoughts, opinions and ideas will come across in many ways. It is not my job to interpret my thoughts for you, only to be myself.

    Everything I say is part of the act.

    I love to reiterate on things. I go in circles but we are part of the circling spiral of consciousness. Things never change only our perspective of them.

    It's not like I'm telling you that this is for now, I'm just a reminder of an inevitable path. Afterall whether we care much for this sphere or not, it is just a single tiny ball within the Infinite Creation, our purpose will become much wider and higher. And as I said, you're the kind to shoulder things on yourself.

    We do have infinite cycles to advance so it's not like there's a rush. I am myself an entity that probably took his time and will still continue to take his time.
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    05-13-2015, 01:35 PM
    (05-13-2015, 01:02 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 12:54 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 11:23 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 05:13 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: I will tell you why I am here now and why I remember so much. I am here to rein in my misguided 'sons' and to show them the truth of themselves. The fact is that almost none of them even remember why they started on the path they did in the first place and that is part of that path beginning in deceit. They all trusted me and I mislead them, let them have whatever they believed they wanted while seeding in them all that was my desire. By the end, they wouldn't even know the difference between the seeds I had sown and their own desires. Now, over many, many years, the seeds have sprouted and grown and are overrunning the planetary mind, however, it is not so dire, much progress has been made.

    Perhaps to be clear it is more that I am here for the 'last push'.

    That's a bit a self-centered way to see things, that is not how the nature of reality works but rather what you intentions were.

    You incarnated for these other-selves something they needed. If you want to see that you misguided them that is your choice but in truth you were a required answer to their desires.

    I've put a lot of emphasis that all was well and that is because the hardest thing to do is to let go and yet that is the single most important thing one can do. All of your actions were not even noise within Infinity, they were part of the perfect unity that is ever constant.

    7D includes to some extent the loss of individuality, you will continue to fufill your self desires until you transcend all you believe you are to embrace your truer nature as the One. Not as the one who has been Belial.

    As I have said variously before, I am well aware of these, and I have constructed my path by my own choice. Perhaps it is self-centered, but I don't think it's any less self-centered than the belief that I am the One Infinite Creator. I am simply following my heart's truest path. Perhaps in the end this will all be dispelled as a big illusion, I can accept that, but right now, in my deepest honesty, these are the things I feel and I experience. I am not going to delude myself or be dishonest with myself for the sake of "letting go", that isn't balanced either. I have to go through my experiences and accept them as they come, not try to control them.

    So, thus, I accept that perhaps to others my thoughts, opinions and ideas will come across in many ways. It is not my job to interpret my thoughts for you, only to be myself.

    Everything I say is part of the act.

    I love to reiterate on things. I go in circles but we are part of the circling spiral of consciousness. Things never change only our perspective of them.

    It's not like I'm telling you that this is for now, I'm just a reminder of an inevitable path. Afterall whether we care much for this sphere or not, it is just a single tiny ball within the Infinite Creation, our purpose will become much wider and higher. And as I said, you're the kind to shoulder things on yourself.

    We do have infinite cycles to advance so it's not like there's a rush. I am myself an entity that probably took his time and will still continue to take his time.

    SO true, this made me laugh, and think about dogs chasing its tail. A fish in a fish bowl hahah.
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    05-13-2015, 01:38 PM
    I'm in a rush to get back to 6D, but then I want to take my time to get to 7D.

    If I'm from the next Octave, I'd probably want to repeat 6D to fine-tune myself, and to graduate with Ra.

    My dream is to go with Ra.
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    05-13-2015, 04:29 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 04:30 PM by Minyatur.)
    @Tan.rar

    Other than my question about the soul mate we spoke and if you know her to be my twin flame and if she was either also a godess or one of us, I've got two more questions.

    I'd like to know how many of us are on earth for a similar purpose (reporalizing).

    And how many of us are active on this forum now.
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    05-13-2015, 06:07 PM
    I feel I have passed with flying colors, and don't feel minimal at all.
    Only in my ability to manifest my desire do I feel a little minimal, but I am changing that.
    It's what you believe, isn't it.

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    05-13-2015, 06:47 PM
    (05-13-2015, 06:07 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I feel I have passed with flying colors, and don't feel minimal at all.
    Only in my ability to manifest my desire do I feel a little minimal, but I am changing that.
    It's what you believe, isn't it.

    The thing with higher selves, is that they can have the desire to be denied desires in 3D. I think there's some kind of hierarchy of desires.

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    05-13-2015, 07:00 PM
    (05-13-2015, 06:47 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 06:07 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I feel I have passed with flying colors, and don't feel minimal at all.
    Only in my ability to manifest my desire do I feel a little minimal, but I am changing that.
    It's what you believe, isn't it.

    The thing with higher selves, is that they can have the desire to be denied desires in 3D. I think there's some kind of hierarchy of desires.

    Well that doesn't stop me from trying.

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    05-13-2015, 07:51 PM
    (05-13-2015, 04:29 PM)Minyatur Wrote: @Tan.rar

    Other than my question about the soul mate we spoke and if you know her to be my twin flame and if she was either also a godess or one of us, I've got two more questions.

    I'd like to know how many of us are on earth for a similar purpose (reporalizing).

    And how many of us are active on this forum now.

    That last answer is what I would like to know. I think that I may be one of them since I, apparently, have been here for thousands of years. I also have the intuition that I've repolarized. I'm not saying that I have, I'm just wondering.

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    05-13-2015, 08:42 PM
    (05-13-2015, 07:51 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 04:29 PM)Minyatur Wrote: @Tan.rar

    Other than my question about the soul mate we spoke and if you know her to be my twin flame and if she was either also a godess or one of us, I've got two more questions.

    I'd like to know how many of us are on earth for a similar purpose (reporalizing).

    And how many of us are active on this forum now.

    That last answer is what I would like to know. I think that I may be one of them since I, apparently, have been here for thousands of years. I also have the intuition that I've repolarized. I'm not saying that I have, I'm just wondering.

    I'm very sad you are not interested in my soul mate or twin flame.  Tongue 
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