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    #121
    05-11-2015, 10:26 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:11 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:07 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 09:00 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: My friend, my karma is my responsibility and my responsibility is taken and chosen by myself. You would not perhaps understand, but there is no outside force that gives me my karma, it is something I have chosen for myself. Like Ra, I am attempting to take responsibility for my actions that were misguided. I do this to achieve balance within myself.

    For me, karma and responsibility are nearly the same thing. I do not 'have' to do anything, no, of course not. I have, however, chosen to take responsibility and so am acting in kind.

    I would ask you what actions are those that you felt were misguided, but it's probably none of my business. I'm probably too curious for my own good. Or maybe nosy is the better word. Tongue

    I welcome questions as it is a nice invitation to share my thoughts. There are many thoughts I will share only if genuinely asked. Are you actually asking?

    Yes I am actually asking. I guess someone could split the thread if it goes too far off topic.

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    #122
    05-11-2015, 10:36 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:26 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:11 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:07 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 09:00 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: My friend, my karma is my responsibility and my responsibility is taken and chosen by myself. You would not perhaps understand, but there is no outside force that gives me my karma, it is something I have chosen for myself. Like Ra, I am attempting to take responsibility for my actions that were misguided. I do this to achieve balance within myself.

    For me, karma and responsibility are nearly the same thing. I do not 'have' to do anything, no, of course not. I have, however, chosen to take responsibility and so am acting in kind.

    I would ask you what actions are those that you felt were misguided, but it's probably none of my business. I'm probably too curious for my own good. Or maybe nosy is the better word. Tongue

    I welcome questions as it is a nice invitation to share my thoughts. There are many thoughts I will share only if genuinely asked. Are you actually asking?

    Yes I am actually asking. I guess someone could split the thread if it goes too far off topic.

    I suppose that is true.

    Without going in to too much detail, I imprisoned the powers of goddess or divine feminine on this planet and brought about the ages of patriarchy.
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    #123
    05-11-2015, 10:41 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I suppose that is true.

    Without going in to too much detail, I imprisoned the powers of goddess or divine feminine on this planet and brought about the ages of patriarchy.

    You are talking of your personnal acts, or what was done as a group?
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    #124
    05-11-2015, 10:41 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:26 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:11 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:07 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 09:00 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: My friend, my karma is my responsibility and my responsibility is taken and chosen by myself. You would not perhaps understand, but there is no outside force that gives me my karma, it is something I have chosen for myself. Like Ra, I am attempting to take responsibility for my actions that were misguided. I do this to achieve balance within myself.

    For me, karma and responsibility are nearly the same thing. I do not 'have' to do anything, no, of course not. I have, however, chosen to take responsibility and so am acting in kind.

    I would ask you what actions are those that you felt were misguided, but it's probably none of my business. I'm probably too curious for my own good. Or maybe nosy is the better word. Tongue

    I welcome questions as it is a nice invitation to share my thoughts. There are many thoughts I will share only if genuinely asked. Are you actually asking?

    Yes I am actually asking. I guess someone could split the thread if it goes too far off topic.

    I suppose that is true.

    Without going in to too much detail, I imprisoned the powers of goddess or divine feminine on this planet and brought about the ages of patriarchy.

    That's pretty interesting. I've heard a lot about that from different sources. I even just saw a reference to this on a conspiracy based Youtube channel. Thanks for sharing. Very short but concise; you left nothing out.

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    #125
    05-11-2015, 10:43 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:41 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I suppose that is true.

    Without going in to too much detail, I imprisoned the powers of goddess or divine feminine on this planet and brought about the ages of patriarchy.

    You are talking of your personnal acts, or what was done as a group?

    The work was ultimately done as a group, more power that way, but it was my intention which attracted and drove the group. They did not fully understand what they were doing.

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    #126
    05-11-2015, 10:43 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:41 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I suppose that is true.

    Without going in to too much detail, I imprisoned the powers of goddess or divine feminine on this planet and brought about the ages of patriarchy.

    You are talking of your personnal acts, or what was done as a group?

    Good question, Minyatur.

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    #127
    05-11-2015, 10:47 PM
    Of course, I certainly had a personal hand in the workings, but there is much that can be done through influencing others.
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    #128
    05-11-2015, 10:48 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:43 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:41 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I suppose that is true.

    Without going in to too much detail, I imprisoned the powers of goddess or divine feminine on this planet and brought about the ages of patriarchy.

    You are talking of your personnal acts, or what was done as a group?

    The work was ultimately done as a group, more power that way, but it was my intention which attracted and drove the group. They did not fully understand what they were doing.

    I have another question. What was your motivation for doing so, and was the source of this intention from an extra-planetary source? In other words, were you guided by another race of beings that were perhaps STS?

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    #129
    05-11-2015, 10:55 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:48 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:43 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:41 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I suppose that is true.

    Without going in to too much detail, I imprisoned the powers of goddess or divine feminine on this planet and brought about the ages of patriarchy.

    You are talking of your personnal acts, or what was done as a group?

    The work was ultimately done as a group, more power that way, but it was my intention which attracted and drove the group. They did not fully understand what they were doing.

    I have another question. What was your motivation for doing so, and was the source of this intention from an extra-planetary source? In other words, were you guided by another race of beings that were perhaps STS?

    No, I was not guided, I came here of my own accord. However, in the history prior, I was not always negative. I had been imprisoned in negative time/space by a group of entities who were jealous of me. In my imprisonment I sank in to myself until I reached a state of total self-ness and in my power I emerged from and shattered my prison to be free. From there, I began to conquest. I eventually destroyed all life on the planet and then, by a divine source, was shown all that I was. I hated myself, and so allowed the ones who imprisoned me to rip my soul to shreds and devour me.

    Somewhere in the abyss of the ethers I awoke again, somehow reborn anew and knowing all that had gone on before. Full of power, new vigour and potential, I came here to find my kingdom. When I arrived, I began building it. The first task was to divide the population against itself, then to conquer. To this end, I pit the powers of the divine masculine and divine feminine against eachother through black ritual magic, and slowly corrupted the priesthoods. I reached out through the astral plane to shamans and medicine men and yogis and corrupted them, gave them the powers of black magic.

    It is the other way around than you would think. It was I that guided the STS beings here, not the other way around.
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    05-11-2015, 10:57 PM
    As for my motivation. My motivation was creation. I wished to create what was within me. This planet became my laboratory. There were some who tried to interfere and I took their names and corrupted them.
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    #131
    05-11-2015, 11:13 PM
    (05-11-2015, 10:57 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: As for my motivation. My motivation was creation. I wished to create what was within me. This planet became my laboratory. There were some who tried to interfere and I took their names and corrupted them.

    Very interesting story. That would perhaps explain why you were born with a partial veil. You have such a strong history with this planet.

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    05-11-2015, 11:17 PM
    (05-11-2015, 11:13 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:57 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: As for my motivation. My motivation was creation. I wished to create what was within me. This planet became my laboratory. There were some who tried to interfere and I took their names and corrupted them.

    Very interesting story. That would perhaps explain why you were born with a partial veil. You have such a strong history with this planet.

    Well, I get the sense I did it with particular purpose in this life. In many of my other lives I have been fully veiled.
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    05-11-2015, 11:32 PM
    (05-11-2015, 11:17 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 11:13 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:57 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: As for my motivation. My motivation was creation. I wished to create what was within me. This planet became my laboratory. There were some who tried to interfere and I took their names and corrupted them.

    Very interesting story. That would perhaps explain why you were born with a partial veil. You have such a strong history with this planet.

    Well, I get the sense I did it with particular purpose in this life. In many of my other lives I have been fully veiled.

    Do you feel like that's a lot of karma to deal with? Or have you worked a lot of it out in other lives?

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    #134
    05-11-2015, 11:41 PM
    (05-11-2015, 11:32 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 11:17 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 11:13 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-11-2015, 10:57 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: As for my motivation. My motivation was creation. I wished to create what was within me. This planet became my laboratory. There were some who tried to interfere and I took their names and corrupted them.

    Very interesting story. That would perhaps explain why you were born with a partial veil. You have such a strong history with this planet.

    Well, I get the sense I did it with particular purpose in this life. In many of my other lives I have been fully veiled.

    Do you feel like that's a lot of karma to deal with? Or have you worked a lot of it out in other lives?

    I have already done an enourmous amount of work on this through many lives. It is somewhat complicated. Although I started everything and set the stage, I was appealed to. Along the way, I was convinced that what I was doing wasn't the only way and as I began to see that, I realized it was already too late. The individuals whom I had called and brought together had more than enough of their own momentum now, they continued on with the conquest while I silently fell away.

    This is the challenge I face now, is that my actions have compounded for many thousands of years and through many thousands of individuals. The intentions I set in this planet are like millions of gallons of oil in the ocean, poisoning the mind of the planet with my desires for conquest. The water and the oil are inseparable now.

    So, although I am a point where I have largely resolved myself of my own darkness, I now turn my attention to 'cleaning up the oil'.

    Like I said to Minyatur, I am where I am out of choice, not obligation.
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    #135
    05-11-2015, 11:54 PM
    The only thing I do remember about higher densities is that I remained not there for myself but for other-selves. Does this apply to you? I actually feel the weight of responsabilities I've had before starting incarnating around these parts.

    Does this apply to you?

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    05-12-2015, 12:08 AM
    I am where I am which is always where I am meant to and intend to be. I do not, personally, have an exact preference between densities.

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    05-12-2015, 12:12 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 12:14 AM by Minyatur.)
    I meant with the group that I was part of. I did remain in a positive way because I cared about others-selves.

    I perceive a weight only toward those I leave behind and know it is a bretrayal.

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    05-12-2015, 12:16 AM
    It is a mix for me. I came here because it was the best thing I could do for them and all.

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    05-12-2015, 12:20 AM
    Sounds like the only reason I'd be here.

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    05-12-2015, 12:26 AM
    They did not want you to go because they knew you were changing your polarity. You too were one of the Sons of Belial.

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    05-12-2015, 12:28 AM
    (05-12-2015, 12:26 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: They did not want you to go because they knew you were changing your polarity. You too were one of the Sons of Belial.

    What does that mean? I'm intrigued.

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    05-12-2015, 12:29 AM
    The Sons of Belial were those who first seeded the darkness on this planet, begun before the days of Atlantis.

    I am Belial.
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    05-12-2015, 12:37 AM
    You know me?

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    05-12-2015, 12:38 AM
    (05-12-2015, 12:37 AM)Minyatur Wrote: You know me?

    I do. Eager, willing, intrigued and ready to experience anything. Explains perhaps why you are so bored now.

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    05-12-2015, 01:34 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 01:48 AM by Minyatur.)
    (05-12-2015, 12:38 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 12:37 AM)Minyatur Wrote: You know me?

    I do. Eager, willing, intrigued and ready to experience anything. Explains perhaps why you are so bored now.

    I am not so bored, simply that it is my main concern as I am pretty carefree with everything. Keeping my mind focused on something.

    What you said about being in the first who seeded darkness seemed to go with what I had in mind. Things seem to have gotten bigger than what was first expected.

    I wonder why your veil is so thin while mine is so thick. What you said did resonate but did not bring further awareness of anything. Though I know exactly how I am supposed to pierce my veil.

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    05-12-2015, 01:56 AM
    (05-12-2015, 01:34 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 12:38 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 12:37 AM)Minyatur Wrote: You know me?

    I do. Eager, willing, intrigued and ready to experience anything. Explains perhaps why you are so bored now.

    I am not so bored, simply that it is my main concern as I am pretty carefree with everything. Keeping my mind focused on something.

    What you said about being in the first who seeded darkness seemed to go with what I had in mind. Things seem to have gotten bigger than what was first expected.

    I wonder why your veil is so thin while mine is so thick. What you said did resonate but did not bring further awareness of anything. Though I know exactly how I am supposed to pierce my veil.

    Only you can answer that. You tell me, why is your veil so thick? You have already answered in this thread, you do not think remembering is important. Thus, why would you program for remembrance?

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    05-12-2015, 01:59 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 02:00 AM by Minyatur.)
    (05-12-2015, 01:56 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 01:34 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 12:38 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 12:37 AM)Minyatur Wrote: You know me?

    I do. Eager, willing, intrigued and ready to experience anything. Explains perhaps why you are so bored now.

    I am not so bored, simply that it is my main concern as I am pretty carefree with everything. Keeping my mind focused on something.

    What you said about being in the first who seeded darkness seemed to go with what I had in mind. Things seem to have gotten bigger than what was first expected.

    I wonder why your veil is so thin while mine is so thick. What you said did resonate but did not bring further awareness of anything. Though I know exactly how I am supposed to pierce my veil.

    Only you can answer that. You tell me, why is your veil so thick? You have already answered in this thread, you do not think remembering is important. Thus, why would you program for remembrance?

    I did program for rememberance. I just didn't go through. I did not "step out" of this matrix. My programmed way is through drugs, it presents the opportunity to do it.

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    05-12-2015, 02:15 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 02:16 AM by Minyatur.)
    How have we known each other? I do not know why but this sounds important.

    From what you said it sounds like I was under you yet that does resonate as accurate.

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    05-12-2015, 02:19 AM
    (05-12-2015, 02:15 AM)Minyatur Wrote: How have we known each other? I do not know why but this sounds important.

    From what you said it sounds like I was under you yet that does resonate as accurate.

    Not under per se, but it was I who awoke you to the darkness and made you crave its power. After that, you did the rest on your own, as did the others. I put out a call and it was answered.

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    05-12-2015, 02:25 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 02:35 AM by Minyatur.)
    (05-12-2015, 02:19 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 02:15 AM)Minyatur Wrote: How have we known each other? I do not know why but this sounds important.

    From what you said it sounds like I was under you yet that does resonate as accurate.

    Not under per se, but it was I who awoke you to the darkness and made you crave its power. After that, you did the rest on your own, as did the others. I put out a call and it was answered.

    Seems more like what I had in mind. Despite you saying that you awoke me to the darkness, I seem to think I would've joined you because I thought you were alike me. Not excluding the idea that it did change me but that prior to this change I did think you we alike me.

    When I started reading the LOO I first thought I was from a STO memory complex and tried to communicate with Ra. It just felt awkward on both ends. It's funny how I could be so far away from knowing my past.

    I resonated with the idea that I was a STS entity prior to all of this maybe a month or so ago. My higher self told me not to speak of it.

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