Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

[Bring4th_Austin]

i have told that i know of at least 3 other people personally who have started experiencing phenomenon that pertains to those who coincide with high up the ladder i described. this number does not include the people i know through internet or this forum.

But what about "all are harvested regardless of progress," or "the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance?"

Shouldn't everyone be noticing these things? I read your other post about how the different people may experience harvest, but honestly, I don't buy the idea that a few select people will actually have an experiential realization of harvest and it will be deniable for others.

[apeiron]

It has not happened yet. Nothing related to harvest has happened yet. However, note how OWS movements in many countries are seen now as a normal occurrence. See the increase (temporarily) of 3d yellow negative around you as well.

[unity100]

I'm not disagreeing, but how do you know this?

I was speaking in terms of what has been said in the material of course. Personally speaking, I have contacted intelligent infinity several times and no one appeared and offered me a ticket out

did you ask ?

'we should definitely know when it happens' -> yes. those who are actually experiencing these, definitely knowing things that are happening, now. not in future.

I am confused. You said that the harvest will most likely include those who disappear or drop dead. If it is happening (is that what you're saying?), why have I not seen any of this?

probably because harvest has not happened yet ?

These statements don't bother me dude. It is amusing how you single me out, yet many people share the same opinion.

i cant see that 'many' you speak of. or are you unaware of people who do not agree with you ?

i have told that i know of at least 3 other people personally who have started experiencing phenomenon that pertains to those who coincide with high up the ladder i described. this number does not include the people i know through internet or this forum.

But what about "all are harvested regardless of progress," or "the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance?"

gates being open does not mean everyone will be able to contact. just like how some contacted during incarnation long before, and many havent.

Shouldn't everyone be noticing these things? I read your other post about how the different people may experience harvest, but honestly, I don't buy the idea that a few select people will actually have an experiential realization of harvest and it will be deniable for others.

well, isnt that already the norm in all spiritual matters ? 42% of people are able to plan their life lessons consciously. the rest 68%, have their lives planned by their higher selves.

even a few percent of wanderers are able to intelligently penetrate their status, despite all the billions of years past they have working with higher frequencies.

the rate of consciously being aware of happenings, is proportional to the proximity of the entity to whatever threshold that is needed. the others may experience things, but not even be aware of the happenings. or, interpret/load them into meanings they can interpret in their own life. like, a lot of entities interpreting any noticeable entity aiding them with your life, as 'god' or 'angels'.

[zenmaster]

Personally speaking, I have contacted intelligent infinity several times and no one appeared and offered me a ticket out

Each life provides an opportunity to work on that "sculpture". The sum-total of that work is assessed at death. If during a lifetime, you contact intelligent infinity (and it sticks) you've got your "ticket out" - as the sum-total assessment is right there before you. IMO, that's what Ra meant by "choosing the manner of their leaving".

[3DMonkey]

Lol. Unity100, you know you ignore the existence of the ones who disagree with you. I'm theoretically one of the "many". 'Come here and give Big Mama a hug'

[unity100]

Personally speaking, I have contacted intelligent infinity several times and no one appeared and offered me a ticket out

Each life provides an opportunity to work on that "sculpture". The sum-total of that work is assessed at death. If during a lifetime, you contact intelligent infinity (and it sticks) you've got your "ticket out" - as the sum-total assessment is right there before you. IMO, that's what Ra meant by "choosing the manner of their leaving".

yes. thats probably why all entities that contacted intelligent infinity in the negative manner, died in different means.

and also, the entities that were harvestable during the 2nd cycle, but NOT harvested, could leave the planet at any time through use of intelligent infinity.

no, its not something philosophically convenient.

[zenmaster]

and also, the entities that were harvestable during the 2nd cycle, but NOT harvested, could leave the planet at any time through use of intelligent infinity.

But we really don't know what that means. My guess is it means that, after any death past that point, they had the option to choose some 4D vibrational nexus to learn from.

[unity100]

and also, the entities that were harvestable during the 2nd cycle, but NOT harvested, could leave the planet at any time through use of intelligent infinity.

But we really don't know what that means. My guess is it means that, after any death past that point, they had the option to choose some 4D vibrational nexus to learn from.

the least it means, it includes dying. for, in order to leave 'this planetary influence', you need to totally get out of it. this includes leaving your 3d physical vehicle, moreover leaving your astral 3d body behind, in order to move to another planet. you may not leave your astral 3d body behind maybe, if the totality is able to place you in another planet just like that - but, since those harvestees would incarnate into 4d influences, this would mean that they would also move over from 3d astral body.

and, you are missing one important detail - those who contact, have the honor/obligation of choosing the MANNER of their leaving. 'manner' does not make any sense for what you speak of, since the manner of leaving a planetary influence and being placed in another, is what is done by totality, and it is done in a moment's notice by just thinking the appropriate nexus by the totality. (as it was explained in various topics that passed in that subject in material). therefore, there is no 'manner' there. it is an instant's choice and process.

'manner of leaving' would only make sense for those who are incarnated, or in planetary influence still.

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[zenmaster]

and, you are missing one important detail - those who contact, have the honor/obligation of choosing the MANNER of their leaving. 'manner' does not make any sense for what you speak of

Sure it makes perfect sense: they "shall choose the time/space of their leaving. They are unlikely to leave until their other-selves are harvestable also." Fairly congruent and simple. Nothing to do with 3D astral bodies (very odd).

[unity100]

and, you are missing one important detail - those who contact, have the honor/obligation of choosing the MANNER of their leaving. 'manner' does not make any sense for what you speak of

Sure it makes perfect sense: they "shall choose the time/space of their leaving. They are unlikely to leave until their other-selves are harvestable also." Fairly congruent and simple. Nothing to do with 3D astral bodies (very odd).

you are deliberately ignoring the information that explains the situation.

leaving a planetary influence and entering another, is something that totality does for you. and it is a moment's notice. there isnt a process in it that you can choose the manner of. if you would like, i can provide the relevant quote for this.

and the other piece of information you have ignored selectively :

17.25 Questioner: How did Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, and Rasputin get harvested prior to the harvest?

Ra: I am Ra. It is the right/privilege/duty of those opening consciously the gate to intelligent infinity to choose the manner of their leaving of third density. Those of negative orientation who so achieve this right/duty most often choose to move forward in their learn/teaching of service to self.

[3DMonkey]

"bodies" and "death" are not necessarily what they appear to be

[native]

Each life provides an opportunity to work on that "sculpture". The sum-total of that work is assessed at death. If during a lifetime, you contact intelligent infinity (and it sticks) you've got your "ticket out" - as the sum-total assessment is right there before you. IMO, that's what Ra meant by "choosing the manner of their leaving".

Ra's fairly clear on it, yes.

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you are deliberately ignoring the information that explains the situation.

Incorrect, unity. Don asked Ra directly what they meant by 'manner' and they said it's a time/space thing. There is no working around that brother.

It seems Ra's use of the word manner that you have referenced now, refers to the polarity they choose. Thus, the manner of their leaving in the metaphysical sense in general (i.e. "..their manner of entry into fourth density") is to either move into the positive or negative polarity.

More elaboration..."There is one harvest. Those able to enter fourth density through vibrational complex levels may choose the manner of their further seeking of the One Creator." So manner refers to a decision that must be made in regards to polarity, not the ability to leave within the incarnation whenever they want.

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"bodies" and "death" are not necessarily what they appear to be

Don't confuse us Sir Robert Anton.

[3DMonkey]

We die every day. Bodies are chakras too.

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LOL. I'm not the confuser. Ra started it.

[unity100]

It seems Ra's use of the word manner that you have referenced now, refers to the polarity they choose. Thus, the manner of their leaving in the metaphysical sense in general (i.e. "..their manner of entry into fourth density") is to either move into the positive or negative polarity.

there is no polarity to choose for an entity who qualified for harvestable. the entity can only be harvestable ONLY if it has already chosen a polarity. an entity who has chosen positive or negative path and harvested, has no 'polarity' to choose when entering 4th density. entity qualified as positive, is positive, entity qualified as negative, is negative.

dont start making up things by ignoring plain english sentences in order to alleviate inconvenient information again.

[3DMonkey]

Say I'm one of those that get to choose the manner in which I enter. I now choose that I will polarize my being fourth density positive, therefore I am choosing the manner in which I enter. (completely hypothetical, of course)

I think it's important to reflect on how much we "put into" the material to satisfy our expectations. "entities", "bodies", "death". These words are used in different contexts throughout the material. For instance, Ra referred to the picture of a bird on the tarot card as "an entity". That broadens the definition of entity a little, doesn't it?

[Sagittarius]

I have noticed the green ray energy's effect on people greatly in the past few weeks. People are more emotional, more forgiving I'am finding.

I will give a few examples although I have seen more. My best mates dad apparently broke down at a family dinner, confessing his sins so to speak, he spent 20 minutes telling each one of his children how he loves them and how he thinks they are all good beings better then him.

Strangely enough my other best friends dad also broke down on a motorcycle trip in a very similar fashion, as if that doesn't reek of synchronism enough on the very same motorcycle trip another guy who is also a dad of a friend of mine broke down in again very similar fashion.

This all in the space of a week. Last week to be exact.

I can feel it. It's growing stronger. It is increasing inside and outside of me. The last 2 weeks I have felt an almost continual stream of happiness and joy. Every nights meditation brings new realizations and experiences that only happened every few weeks or months before.

The roller coaster is speeding up and that joyous familiar feeling keeps returning to me more and more.

[unity100]

im wondering until what level will this frequency increase continue.

[native]

there is no polarity to choose for an entity who qualified for harvestable. the entity can only be harvestable ONLY if it has already chosen a polarity. an entity who has chosen positive or negative path and harvested, has no 'polarity' to choose when entering 4th density. entity qualified as positive, is positive, entity qualified as negative, is negative.

The more I consider it, you're probably right. Statements can be taken out of context depending on where emphasis is placed, so honesty is useful. The example of the two wanderers on Venus that polarized themselves negatively cleared it up. The reason I was questioning it, is that polarization involves the 'ability to do work', and that's how we're able to switch polarities when we decide it's necessary. So, come harvest, I thought perhaps a negatively polarized being may choose to switch polarities.

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That broadens the definition of entity a little, doesn't it?

Sure does.

[unity100]

there is no polarity to choose for an entity who qualified for harvestable. the entity can only be harvestable ONLY if it has already chosen a polarity. an entity who has chosen positive or negative path and harvested, has no 'polarity' to choose when entering 4th density. entity qualified as positive, is positive, entity qualified as negative, is negative.

The more I consider it, you're probably right. Statements can be taken out of context depending on where emphasis is placed, so honesty is useful. The example of the two wanderers on Venus that polarized themselves negatively cleared it up. The reason I was questioning it, is that polarization involves the 'ability to do work', and that's how we're able to switch polarities when we decide it's necessary. So, come harvest, I thought perhaps a negatively polarized being may choose to switch polarities.

its not that simple. ra says, the further the entity is polarized the easier to switch polarities in higher densities. awareness and extent of polarity helps the entity for switching. this naturally means it would be harder to switch polarities in lower densities, like after getting harvested from 3rd.

this subject passes in detail in the topic of the 5d entities which had had switched polarities during incarnation. despite being 5d entities, they had spent a long time polarizing in order to switch their polarities.

[3DMonkey]

I know. You'd think it would be more difficult to 'flip' if you were more "dense".

Like me now, I'm like a fish on dry land. flip flap flip flap

[AnthroHeart]

I feel the green as a dense gravitational "mass" of sorts in my heart chakra. I guess like a singularity, but not really sure. It keeps me in balance when I'm doing my Tao dances.

[unity100]

it was quite silent since oct 28. now, approximately 18 days later, a huge cme is coming. its arrival will coincide with end date of a cycle, if there is a cycle continuing after 28 oct.

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/11...oming-cme/

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The official Sunspot number count for Nov 9, 2011 is listed as 220. This is a new record for Solar Cycle 24.

in addition, in this period the biggest known sunspot was observed if i remember right.

[ThatZenGuy]

Alaska was hit with the biggest Hurricane type snow storm in recorded history on the 8th and 9th. This storm reminded me of the movie The day after tomorrow.