It seems those of next octave, supervise manifestations of light, during our cycle

[3DMonkey]

I look at it like this. Ra doesn't use the English language. They were operating the channeled like a puppet. Their collective was looking around in the brain for word usage. "sir, we need a word for '-/;;((())?,.&@"&&|~~<#~|~<'." "the closest one she has to that is 'infinity'." "Fine, it'll have to do".

[native]

Lol..yeah that sounds about right. It's like trying to explain what an orgasm feels like.

[3DMonkey]

You just need to try it. Then you'll get it.

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That's actually more profound than the joke we make. It is the essence of experience. The exploring of the unknown. What is love? You just need to try it. Are you sure? I'm too angry to try it. Just do it, come on. .... Wow, I get it now. Why did I deprive myself for so long?

You never know until you try.

[native]

Direct experience is best!

[drifting pages]

Abstract thought can only go so far. Mind chatter can make you crazy.

In the end you will follow what feels best in the moment and you will trust something and go with it.

Shamans tell that the true nature of reality is unknowable

Consciousness can not touch itself directly so it works with projection(mirror)

Even awareness as itself is a mirror and not the true complete infinity which is (nothing/no experience)

So that is why everything is valid, because nothing is.

An endless expand in nothing.

Awareness

To recognize that to me is the key to a happy life, one that does not abhors All that is but allows for preference.

Tee lightest touch to the ONE that knows consciousness is all that is necessary

[Ocean]

empty infinity is love for all it creates

[native]

Nice points 3DM and drifting. I'm writing a response..gonna take some time on it.

[Turtle]

Comprehend that which is incomprehensible...

C'mon, what are you all waiting for? Just do it.

[Ocean]

it's nice to wax philosophical.

[unity100]

I understand. The creation is experiencing infinity is what you're saying. Infinite concepts are tapped which create experience.

or rather, infinite intelligence discovering infinity. and whatever counterpart it may have, doing the opposite.

Infinity in essence is only potentials.

'potential', 'essence' are also only concepts within infinity, with their counterparts. so, this makes the proposition wrong, since it has more than 'only potentials', infinity is not 'only potentials'.

But still, infinity became aware which was the second step. So there is an awareness of itself, and from then on the viewpoint changes. Because indeed, infinity realizes it does exist.

that is not correct - we, finites (actually we in this octave maybe) treat awareness as something 'good' or, some higher level.

there is nothing that says 'being aware' is something that is higher. this is our perspective.

if you look at it from base logic, 'becoming aware', is differentiation from the state of infinity, hence, something regressive. infinity, is both 'aware' and 'unaware'.

What you're trying to do is separate infinity the concept, from everything else, which you can't. Because everything comes from infinity. Does it not?

actually, infinity is separate from all concepts that exist. since, nothing can interact with infinity. it is totally null, in balance, therefore, impossible to interact with.

we are interacting with infinite intelligence, which is the direct subset of infinity. and, infinite intelligence is going towards infinity, over infinite amount of 'experiences'.

Don't be critical of the wording is what I'm saying. To not agree with saying infinity is experiencing itself is a semantic argument.

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no, its very important. infinity and infinite intelligence, are not the same thing. the very nature of infinity is its identificator. if you just attribute something to it from one of its subsets, you arent talking about infinity anymore, but of its subset.

There is a paradox in saying infinity is a non-thing and then saying that it became aware of itself.

There is either awareness of itself eventually, or nothingness always.

at no point it was said infinity was a 'non thing'. infinity, is infinity. it includes the 'non thing' ness, and it includes the 'thing'ness. it includes the awareness, and it includes the unawareness.

to put it simply - infinity broke down to 2 counterparts, one is 'aware', the other, isnt. the 'aware' one is infinite intelligence. the unaware part, is the part we dont know. because, apparently we are unaware of it.

I understand the idea that at the base level of infinity nothing is experienced always, but I guess we simply disagree.

that is not correct in regard to what im saying either - there is no 'base' level of infinity - there is infinity. and, all the concepts of 'experiencing','experienced','will be experienced', and all their opposite counterparts, are readily found in infinity, merged.

so, any of them are invalid at the level of infinity, because they are totally nulled out by their counterpart. you cant use them as descriptors of a state - because, that state is totally nulled by its opposite.

You're basically saying that awareness of infinity is a projection..that there is separation in between infinity and awareness. I agree on experiencing and its opposite of not experiencing, but I have to think about infinity and its link to awareness some more.

infinity will never be totally discovered. it will take infinite time. as said, nothing we say about infinity will be correct or incorrect - because at any given time, the exact opposite of what we are saying will be present and merged with it, in infinity, therefore its effect/state totally nulled.

[3DMonkey]

Infinity if born inside of us every moment. It is not the most expanded view and it is not compacted view. It is the source of all that is and it is nothing. Every thought, every blood cell, every skyscraper, every vibration. All born from nothing. All begins with infinity. All. Not a big bang where once there was infinity and then there wasn't. Each particle was infinity and then became. The next particle too, is born from infinity. It's not something "out there" so big that we can't reach it. Infinity is simply all in all.

"You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One."

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Electrons see neutrons and know how they are to act together. They automatically see what they are as one atom. We have lost a bit of that natural understanding, and therefore it is important for us to "look in the mirror" of other self so as to grasp that we are one together and together we can form a type of being that is larger than what we experience now.

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"You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One."

Ra told me directly that I am you, Unity

[native]

I will reply to this. Working on a response!

[Infinite Unity]

A good cross examination is the motif light bringers, given to smc Lucifer.