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    Thread: My mental health is rapidly deteriorating


    BlatzAdict (Offline)

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    #61
    07-20-2017, 03:26 PM
    (07-20-2017, 02:46 PM)Sprout Wrote:
    "They're gonna be not nice to you. And you're gonna be not nice to them! And they're gonna go, woah woah woah..I don't think I'm being nice here."

    hahaha that part was a joke, was it not funny for you as it was for me?



    The gist of this video was "Whenever someone insults us it is important to thank them because they are subconciously reliving the past of how they were treated and are really saying please heal me and dont understand how to go about the situation in the healthy right way. For the awakening sto wanderer, it is then a chance to polarize more positive by openly providing the gifts within your heart and not allowing them to control you by putting you in a state of worthlessness."
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    #62
    07-20-2017, 04:18 PM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2017, 06:17 PM by YinYang.)
    Diana Wrote:I can accept suicide, but certainly cannot find humor in it. Maybe in a very detached way, if one is capable of firmly believing it all works out in the end ( I personally only have working theories), but the pain of the event would still be there nonetheless.

    I found the bit I was thinking about:

    Carla Wrote:If one can move beyond the mythic tragedy of Donald’s death, and believe me, one can, after a decade or so, barely, one begins to see the inherent humor in that human, prideful assumption that one can control one’s destiny by doing only what is seen as right.

    I understood what Carla meant, because I had a very tragic chapter in my life that I can look back on today and I can see the humour in it. All I feel today is gratefulness, because it taught me sooo much. I jokingly refer to it as my PHD in psychology :-)

    Diana Wrote:What about the followers? I don't imagine gurus, or living masters as they sometimes call themselves, are all bad. They have something to say at the least. If one wants to "follow" someone else's path, like Christians follow a religion's interpretation of a book, then some responsibility must be had for the lack of thinking for one's self.

    That's what we call in cult psychology "blaming the victim". There is a big difference between Christianity and a cult. Christianity doesn't practise excommunication, shunning and dissociation... breaking families apart. Christianity doesn't have a climate of extreme fear, as you have in cults (I am not referring to bible cults). There is no recovery for the victim if you tell them it's their fault, or "some responsibility must be had", as you put it. That is the worst thing you can do to someone in trauma. They have been brainwashed. A cult psychologist follows a sequence when working with a recovering cult member, it's almost like leading them out of a maze. The first thing that needs to happen, is the cult leader must be exposed, and then the "teachings" must be pulled apart. This is the most traumatic phase for the cult member, it's the greatest betrayal. They say they feel as if their souls have been raped. If this is not tricky enough, it requires an ex-Scientologist to aid a recovering Scientologist, it takes an ex-Jehovah's Witness, to treat a recovering Jehovah's Witness, and so on....

    Once that is done, recovery can start. We don't know why some bounce back quickly, some take longer to recover, and a few never do. I guess you have never been in a cult, Diane. I have "unfortunately" gotten myself involved with a group when I was very wet behind the ears, and my curiosity and gullibility didn't help. They are mentioned on this forum from time to time, named after a star constellation. As tragic as that was - there are even suicides in this group - I look back on it today with no bitterness, just gratefulness and humour.

    Diane Wrote:I really don't resonate with the new age concept that all is well. All is not well in my estimation, and as far as I know that's why Ra "answered the call" and why wanderers are here. I think this concept that all is well is grossly oversimplified. When one opens one's heart, everything comes in, not just hugs and unicorns.

    Ra answered the call because positive entities called, the same as Orion answering when negative entities call. Would you like one polarity to vanish, before all will be well in your view?

    PS. Are you a Castenada fan? You should read Amy Wallace's book, you might see things differently. These individuals, like Castenada, are capable of mind control on a level you can't even imagine.

    It matters who the person was/is... it always matters...

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    GentleReckoning (Offline)

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    #63
    07-20-2017, 04:42 PM
    (07-20-2017, 06:59 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:
    (07-20-2017, 03:59 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote:
    (07-18-2017, 04:51 AM)anagogy Wrote:
    (07-17-2017, 04:15 PM)sjel Wrote: Help me? But I can only help myself?

    Low on clarity? Low on light?

    Ra provides a simple answer to that problem.




    Quote:Ra: [...] In this density an increase in the serving of others or the serving of self will almost inevitably increase the ability of an entity to enjoy an higher intensity of light. [...]

    Quote:Ra: [...] The spiraling energy, which is the characteristic of what you call “light,” moves in straight line spiral thus giving spirals an inevitable vector upwards to a more comprehensive beingness with regards to intelligent infinity. [...]

    I don't know if this helps, but it might be worth thinking about.

    Higher intensity of light simply means increased catalyst, or information to be processed. It's because it creates greater and greater spiritual density, allowing you to progress to wherever you're 'going' faster and faster regardless of physical circumstances.

    That's true for 3D. But when you get to higher density, it is more harmonious. 3D you are "forged in the fire". This is not the case of higher density where catalyst can be spread out over thousands of years. Therefore not as intense, but still more light-filled.

    And so, our relative 3d experience is not necessarily concurrent with our learnings in higher density. This concept is not foreign to me, as I know everything. So if you go through excessive catalyst/growth, your higher EYE, can then explore and refine that catalyst for eons... so really, the greatest you can give your higher self is excessive amounts of catalyst. It is entirely capable of processing unlimited amounts of information as it relates to itself.

    The fear of course is depolarization here, but once you know how to understand catalyst AND have given up enough attachment to story reality becomes very plastic. My problem, is that reality reached this point too quickly and I now fear that if I create the story will break for too many people... as this is a story, I am of course depolarizing it.

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    Diana (Offline)

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    #64
    07-20-2017, 10:45 PM
    (07-20-2017, 04:18 PM)YinYang Wrote:
    Carla Wrote:If one can move beyond the mythic tragedy of Donald’s death, and believe me, one can, after a decade or so, barely, one begins to see the inherent humor in that human, prideful assumption that one can control one’s destiny by doing only what is seen as right.

    I understood what Carla meant, because I had a very tragic chapter in my life that I can look back on today and I can see the humour in it. All I feel today is gratefulness, because it taught me sooo much. I jokingly refer to it as my PHD in psychology :-)

    There are many reasons why a person would commit suicide, and it is a choice. I don't understand Carla's comment. Maybe in context it would make more sense. But pride is not always a factor.

    (07-20-2017, 04:18 PM)YinYang Wrote: That's what we call in cult psychology "blaming the victim". There is a big difference between Christianity and a cult. Christianity doesn't practise excommunication, shunning and dissociation... breaking families apart. Christianity doesn't have a climate of extreme fear, as you have in cults (I am not referring to bible cults). There is no recovery for the victim if you tell them it's their fault, or "some responsibility must be had", as you put it. That is the worst thing you can do to someone in trauma. They have been brainwashed. A cult psychologist follows a sequence when working with a recovering cult member, it's almost like leading them out of a maze. The first thing that needs to happen, is the cult leader must be exposed, and then the "teachings" must be pulled apart. This is the most traumatic phase for the cult member, it's the greatest betrayal. They say they feel as if their souls have been raped. If this is not tricky enough, it requires an ex-Scientologist to aid a recovering Scientologist, it takes an ex-Jehovah's Witness, to treat a recovering Jehovah's Witness, and so on....

    Once that is done, recovery can start. We don't know why some bounce back quickly, some take longer to recover, and a few never do. I guess you have never been in a cult, Diane. I have "unfortunately" gotten myself involved with a group when I was very wet behind the ears, and my curiosity and gullibility didn't help. They are mentioned on this forum from time to time, named after a star constellation. As tragic as that was - there are even suicides in this group - I look back on it today with no bitterness, just gratefulness and humour.

    No I have never been involved in a cult.

    I don't see any of this having to do with blame. If someone is recovering from cult involvement, I wish them the best. But one makes a choice to get involved to begin with. Then one makes a choice to follow. Yes, there is much brainwashing in this world, such as popular media for example. You don't have to watch it or listen to it. All I'm saying is that there is responsibility in making the choices we do make. If someone was forced or kidnapped, that would be another story.

    (07-20-2017, 04:18 PM)YinYang Wrote: Would you like one polarity to vanish, before all will be well in your view?

    All is not well in my view while there is suffering. I don't care what Ra, or gurus, or Basha, or any other being claims is the ultimate truth. Truth, awareness, consciousness, discernment, etc. are something I am responsible for regarding myself.

    (07-20-2017, 04:18 PM)YinYang Wrote: PS. Are you a Castenada fan? You should read Amy Wallace's book, you might see things differently. These individuals, like Castenada, are capable of mind control on a level you can't even imagine.

    It matters who the person was/is... it always matters...

    I like the Castaneda books. Castaneda was an author who wrote about his experiences. I'm not aware he was anything else. I don't even care if he made it all up, which I don't think he did, but it's not an argument that has any meaning for me because I'm not a follower. I'm not interested in debunkers, or people who have stories of victimhood, but I sincerely wish any who think they have been victimized healing and well being.

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    Infinite (Offline)

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    #65
    07-20-2017, 11:07 PM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2017, 11:09 PM by Infinite.)
    Well, I didn't read all the thread but in my humble opinion you must try elevate your vibration. Some steps:

    - Avoid alcool, drugs and any thing that can do you down your energy. I don't know how is your bedroom but don't stay in the dark because you can facilite the work of negatives forces;

    - Do it the "21- Day Spiritual Cleaning Prayer of Archangel Michael ". This will remove implants, contracts and other negative influencies from past lifes. Link: http://somostodosum.ig.com.br/artigos/st...-5809.html

    - Get out of home. See the nature, the perfection of Infinite Creator. Try see everything and everyone as the Creator. I know that this it's not simple but start with the most beautiful things and keep trying.

    Good lucky.

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    YinYang (Offline)

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    07-21-2017, 03:34 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2017, 05:25 AM by YinYang.)
    Diane Wrote:but I sincerely wish any who think they have been victimized healing and well being.

    The strength, perseverance and bravery of the human spirit is a beautiful thing, that is what I see in narratives like hers. When you've been to "hell and back", and you contemplate the growth involved, you read words like these from Ra and just smile...

    Ra Wrote:Questioner: Then prior to the forgetting process, there was no concept of anything but service-to-others polarization. What sort of societies and experiences in third density were created and evolved in this condition?

    Ra: I am Ra. It is our perception that such conditions created the situation of a most pallid experiential nexus in which lessons were garnered with the relative speed of the turtle to the cheetah.

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    Cainite Away

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    #67
    07-21-2017, 05:28 AM
    My ex always says the Ra Material made me crazy and I used to disagree with her.
    her name is Ronak. once she tried to make fun of Ra and talked like a robot and started her sentence with ''I am Ro''
    her gaze became intense. it was very funny

    So anyways, maybe I was better off not knowing all this info. my other friends usually can't follow me when I talk about the Law of One.. that may be their protection. it protects them from knowing stuff when they're not ready for it.

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    07-21-2017, 06:09 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2017, 06:10 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    Yeah, when the Octaves and densities start becoming scary things it might have been better not to know.
    I thought if I climbed the densities too fast it could set the world on fire.

    At least I didn't delve into the archetypes much at all. I think understanding them has some further hidden dangers.

    Anything that can initiate you, like the room in the great pyramid can probably drive you mad.
    I heard the story of how Napoleon tried to do that, and he ran away screaming from what I recall.
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    #69
    07-21-2017, 12:04 PM
    (07-21-2017, 05:28 AM)Cainite Wrote: My ex always says the Ra Material made me crazy and I used to disagree with her.
    her name is Ronak. once she tried to make fun of Ra and talked like a robot and started her sentence with ''I am Ro''
    her gaze became intense. it was very funny

    LOL! That's hilarious. Thanks for making me laugh.  BigSmile
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    #70
    07-21-2017, 01:34 PM
    (07-21-2017, 06:09 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I thought if I climbed the densities too fast it could set the world on fire.

    I really like some of the things you say! like this one Smile

    (07-21-2017, 12:04 PM)Diana Wrote: LOL! That's hilarious. Thanks for making me laugh.  BigSmile

    You're welcome!
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    09-09-2017, 10:38 PM (This post was last modified: 09-10-2017, 01:57 AM by FractalWanderer.)
    (07-17-2017, 04:15 PM)sjel Wrote: I am devoid of anything. Primarily confused. I am saying random words to my brother and mother because I feel nothing. They are probably scared.

    I feel hate occasionally, and love. No feelings though. some glimpses of what joy is to come, eventually.

    See little glimpses of my smiling guides, my smiling friends. I'm definitely going insane.

    Definitely approaching insanity. Yet my head is increadibly clear. I purposely leave the a in incredibly. This combination of clarity and confusion!

    Help me? But I can only help myself?

    I am very new here, and I don't have a lot to offer. But if you find it useful, this is what I got:
    1) Remember that you are loved
    2) Your situation is finite (I don't know any situation that won't end except for infinity itself)
    3) Give yourself space and time to process what you really feel
    You will experience spiritual, mental and physical growing pains in life. I don't think you are going insane. You are going to be OK.
    For your pollution problem, I may have something useful to offer, too. The main problem with ozone is that it is a heavy oxidizer, so try to include more antioxidants in your diet, there are a lot of them to choose from. Ginkgo Biloba can help increase your oxygen uptake. I don't know if you like incense, but burning some frankincense incense (or using a diffuser for essential oil) can help you battle the carcinogens, and also may help calm your mind.
    If you feel like you got run over by a negative energy train, you may be picking up on negative energy going through an earth lay line. I had that happen to me once, and it was intense, I was suddenly overwhelmed with a devastating sadness and I couldn't tell where it came from. The earth is also in a process of healing now. I hope some of this may help you.
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    09-10-2017, 09:34 AM
    (07-21-2017, 06:09 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Yeah, when the Octaves and densities start becoming scary things it might have been better not to know.
    I thought if I climbed the densities too fast it could set the world on fire.

    At least I didn't delve into the archetypes much at all. I think understanding them has some further hidden dangers.

    Anything that can initiate you, like the room in the great pyramid can probably drive you mad.
    I heard the story of how Napoleon tried to do that, and he ran away screaming from what I recall.

    Why does this information scare you? What dangers do you think will occur seeking the truth?

    The pyramids were no longer properly functional when Napoleon spend the night inside the Great Pyramid. In ancient times, initiates would go into the Queen's chamber, after significant inner work. Now, if one were to spend the night in that chamber without having done the inner work, his inner demons, shadows will come out and this could very well be traumatizing and terrifying, to meet the self for the first time.

    I only suggest that we go at our own pace, a pace that we are comfortable with. Don't overreach yourself. We have all the time in the world (literally) to spiritual evolve and grow.
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