Oneness

[Minyatur]

Agreed. If you don't feel unity your seeing duality.

All just a point of view right?

6D is the density of unity simply because the point of view it offers. You didn't reach unity, you just vibrate at the level where it is known and perceived more fully, realizing it and seeing how no moment has been without nor that any ever will.

We truly live in a Grand Creation don't we? Or perhaps its greatness merely reflect our own found at the core of each.

[Night Owl]

Oh boy, that's old stuff. I certainly don't struggle with this subject anymore. It's kind of funny to look back on it. My perspective has changed considerably during the recent years, it's like reading someone else haha.

[hounsic]

Oh boy, that's old stuff. I certainly don't struggle with this subject anymore. It's kind of funny to look back on it. My perspective has changed considerably during the recent years, it's like reading someone else haha.

How so?...... That would actually make a good thread ---- how has ones perspective evolved over the years.

[Minyatur]

how has ones perspective evolved over the years.

The veil and confusion thinning. Oh, yeah, I contemplated that.

[Night Owl]

Oh boy, that's old stuff. I certainly don't struggle with this subject anymore. It's kind of funny to look back on it. My perspective has changed considerably during the recent years, it's like reading someone else haha.

How so?...... That would actually make a good thread ---- how has ones perspective evolved over the years.

Well it would be hard for me to summerize years of evolution in just a few words. But I would say somewhere down the line I found a way to get closer to inner unity and get out of many paradoxes created by duality. Not always, but in a consistent enough manner that I can call that personal progress.

Mainly I started this thread because it pained me to see many people argue over many subjects that I felt were disharmonious only because they didn't conceptualize the same words in the same way. The root of my suffering was most likely the little child in me trying to harmonize everyone around me. My today self finds great comfort in realizing I cannot reconcile my parents through everyone else Unity can still be found in conflict if that conflict is internalized as being part of the self. And so today I walk this path still containing many paradoxes, many inner conflicts, and instead of seeing them as external, recognize that these external conflicts are part of me to begin with.

[Infinite Unity]

I noticed there seem to be two different perspectives about oneness on the forum. It flies under the radar but it creates much distortions. I feel sometimes if it would have been discussed before other discussions it would have eased comprehension between members. Some seem to understand oneness as a unified duality while others seems to see it more as a single infinite multiplicity. I tend to see it more as the second one.


For me, even though a unified duality can be seen as a positive thing because of unity being the goal to reach, it still implies a division or some kind of hierarchical level that must be reached to be unified as if everything isn't already unified. This doesn't make sense to me as it implies everything isn't already one. It leaves too much room for right/wrong, correctness/incorrectness and things like unjustified or meaningless experiences. I feel this also doesn't make you responsible for your actions. It justifies playing the victim because in this version everyone can have his/her version of what creates unity according to one's ego.


The single infinite multiplicity rather sees everything as already one single thing that explores multiple facets of itself but yet is still one single thing. To me this makes much more sense because it implies everything is already interconnected to the one and everything has a reason and can be explained positively or related to oneness already. In this version there can be no unjustified suffering. This approach seems to take more responsability for it's action and doesn't have room for some kind of victim state. I feel it is more resonant with the LOO.


What are your thoughts on this matter?

Infinity is always a +1. Its like Jade said, it isn't either or, but duality exists as one of those facets you mention, within or apart of the infinite multiplicity. That's just the thing about Infinity, it wouldn't be Infinity, if it weren't all possibilities. All posibilities is the best way to represent the one. Which is the uncontainable, uncorrupted, undistorted true self. Which is the only is. One of its many identifiers, is Identity. The True Identity.

The +1 is a misnomer, and relates the mind boggling expanse of Infinity. There is always more. There is no end To The Infinite One. The beginning is the end, Which is none.