My Thoughts On STS

[βαθμιαίος]

My take on it is that it's almost a political-correctness kind of thing. Ra said STS is a valid path, but I think most of us recoil at the idea of pursuing it ourselves. However, we don't want to tell someone else not to pursue it if that's what they want to do. Ra said some love the light and some love the dark. My sense is that most of those here love the light, but part of the positive path as described by Ra is granting others the freedom to pursue their own path, even if it be dark.

[Shin'Ar]

Okay, I think you've expressed it the clearest here than you have before.

This is where there is another point of confusion within the Ra material, once again because of the rampant use of the word "Self" and "Selves". I understand this is probably difficult to make more obvious, but when one is in Service to Self, what exactly is the "Self" defined as at that point? As in, what do you feel the self-image of one such as this would be?

How can one tell if another is attached to their individuated Identity or not?

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A greater question, is it even important to "identify" others as one or the other?

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I also ask you in the light of your own stated Unpolarized state, do you have awareness of the path of Service to Self?

I would ask for the indulgence of all interested in continuing on this line of thought regarding identity of self. I have written on this extensively but it would be a very long post and go mostly unread. But if you would be interested I could post portions of it here or email it you. And you are right in the import of this. It is as a matter of fact the key to making the Divine Connection is it not.

My take on it is that it's almost a political-correctness kind of thing. Ra said STS is a valid path, but I think most of us recoil at the idea of pursuing it ourselves. However, we don't want to tell someone else not to pursue it if that's what they want to do. Ra said some love the light and some love the dark. My sense is that most of those here love the light, but part of the positive path as described by Ra is granting others the freedom to pursue their own path, even if it be dark.

Ummm yeah, Greek keyboard guy,

By valid path Ra means that it can still lead to higher densities which is what he was speaking about. Just because it leads to higher desntiies does not mean that Ra condones it.

can someone show me an actual quote by Ra where they specifically state that they think it wise to live in STS? or where they condone it in any way? from what I have learned from the Ra material I cannot see where Ra would state such a thing.

[βαθμιαίος]

They don't recommend it. They say it's a harder path and that our Logos has a bias towards kindness.

[Bring4th_Austin]

19.16
Questioner: Can you tell me what bias creates the momentum towards the chosen path of service to self?
Ra: I am Ra. We can speak only in metaphor. Some love the light. Some love the darkness. It is a matter of the unique and infinitely various Creator choosing and playing among its experiences as a child upon a picnic. Some enjoy the picnic and find the sun beautiful, the food delicious, the games refreshing, and glow with the joy of creation. Some find the night delicious, their picnic being pain, difficulty, sufferings of others, and the examination of the perversities of nature. These enjoy a different picnic.

All these experiences are available. It is the free will of each entity which chooses the form of play, the form of pleasure.

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Ra may not "condone" it, but they don't condemn it either, and neither do I.

[Shin'Ar]

So Bridgetoofar, you aren't swayed by the warning that STS can be a much slower path, or that there is the risk of being sent to a place where only STS oriented will be sent when the density change occurs?

[Bring4th_Austin]

Swayed to what? To condemning STS? No, I am not swayed into condemning STS because of what the path entails. Do you think that one needs to condemn something in order to not choose it?

[Shin'Ar]

Swayed to what? To condemning STS? No, I am not swayed into condemning STS because of what the path entails. Do you think that one needs to condemn something in order to not choose it?

So would you tell me why you would not choose STS?

[Bring4th_Austin]

Because I do not view myself as the sole expression of the Creator. I view other beings as an equal spark of the Creator and don't believe that I deserve anything more than they do, no matter their mentality, beliefs, position, orientation, situation, disposition, etc. I see all beings as deserving of peace, joy, and comfort. I prefer companionship over solitude. I find myself at my happiest when I am serving others.

But I realize not everyone is the same way. I don't place myself above them and I don't view my own disposition as more valid.

It has nothing to do with which path progresses quicker, or what sort of environment it will put me in. My actions are spawned by inspiration in the moment and not by hopes of some destination.

[native]

It's said that one polarizes in that manner by opening the gateway through the yellow center, which means that one is fully dedicated towards reforming society for their own benefit. If you aren't actively moving up the power structure of the elite and wealthy, guarding it by separating yourself through the enslavement, manipulation, and domination of others, then you aren't polarizing negatively in any kind of significant way.

[Oldern]

So Bridgetoofar, you aren't swayed by the warning that STS can be a much slower path, or that there is the risk of being sent to a place where only STS oriented will be sent when the density change occurs?

Sorry to interrupt, but that is not a punishment, for one, and it is not slower, it is only perceived as slower - remember, time does not exist, everything exist in the NOW.

If you are walking on the "lonely" path or the "evil" path, it is obvious that by altering your perception (i.e. getting into higher densities to observe and experience more, in less "time"), you will still resonate at a certain level that guarantees that you will be amongst others who are sharing your mindset.

Same goes for STO, they are, by definition, by being happy and loving, will get to where everyone else is happy and loving. Simple as that.

By attacking, fearing, not condoning any mentality that your other selves do, or even by judging it, you are not really understanding how all is connected, and therefore, you are keeping or lowering you vibration to a level where you can still encounter these kinds of attitudes - meaning that in order to truly go to an STO place like you so desire to be, you need to stop worrying about who does what, and that includes STS orientation.

[Shin'Ar]

Okay, I think you've expressed it the clearest here than you have before.

This is where there is another point of confusion within the Ra material, once again because of the rampant use of the word "Self" and "Selves". I understand this is probably difficult to make more obvious, but when one is in Service to Self, what exactly is the "Self" defined as at that point? As in, what do you feel the self-image of one such as this would be?

How can one tell if another is attached to their individuated Identity or not?

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A greater question, is it even important to "identify" others as one or the other?

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I also ask you in the light of your own stated Unpolarized state, do you have awareness of the path of Service to Self?

I would ask for the indulgence of all interested in continuing on this line of thought regarding identity of self. I have written on this extensively but it would be a very long post and go mostly unread. But if you would be interested I could post portions of it here or email it you. And you are right in the import of this. It is as a matter of fact the key to making the Divine Connection is it not.

So Bridgetoofar, you aren't swayed by the warning that STS can be a much slower path, or that there is the risk of being sent to a place where only STS oriented will be sent when the density change occurs?

Sorry to interrupt, but that is not a punishment, for one, and it is not slower, it is only perceived as slower - remember, time does not exist, everything exist in the NOW.

If you are walking on the "lonely" path or the "evil" path, it is obvious that by altering your perception (i.e. getting into higher densities to observe and experience more, in less "time"), you will still resonate at a certain level that guarantees that you will be amongst others who are sharing your mindset.

Same goes for STO, they are, by definition, by being happy and loving, will get to where everyone else is happy and loving. Simple as that.

By attacking, fearing, not condoning any mentality that your other selves do, or even by judging it, you are not really understanding how all is connected, and therefore, you are keeping or lowering you vibration to a level where you can still encounter these kinds of attitudes - meaning that in order to truly go to an STO place like you so desire to be, you need to stop worrying about who does what, and that includes STS orientation.

The Ra material specifically states that after the change into fourth density STS will go to a place where only STS exists, and vice versa.

You may want to re-read through Book one to find that passage and consider it in relation to the rest of the material.

And if you don't think that having to go through another hundred thousand year cycle or more is a slower path, than I would hate to follow you on the path home after a long day's work.

[godwide_void]

I think by approaching and relating to others with the volitional formation/intent of serving them in some way, you're displaying to the Universe that you are capable of loving God, even when it is not at all apparent that the person who you just managed to cause to smile is an aspect of God given that we are subjected to the illusion of individual selves. Every "individual" is a merely a small portion of God donning a mask and the individuals one meets enters their life in order to teach you and simultaneously be taught by you in some way.

By choosing to willingly serve the "individuals" around you, what is really happening is you are serving the Creator. When the Creator sees that you are actively trying to disperse light and love to others in your chosen way, it will return the favor for you regardless if you choose to be of service without any attachment to being rewarded in any way or appeasing the self, the Creator will return to you the same love you have shown to its avatars. Likewise, when you serve "the self", you are still an aspect of God who has chosen to ignore that all others around you contain the essence of God as well or have any value beyond that which you may siphon and use for your own gain. This perspective will only get one so far until it has to be acknowledged that the Creator exists in all things and beings, but nevertheless it is a valid outlook. However, the all-pervading eye of the Creator will see your true intentions and how you choose to correspond with its spawn, and will react accordingly.

So by serving "others" you are serving God, and God will return the service to you (e.g. good karma, more opportunities for love, light, harmony) via its mysterious ways. For example, sharing that small bite of food with a hungry mini-god will result in your loved one/god deciding to cook your absolute favorite meal for you later that day/week, as a vague example since it's never known what sort of catalyst will be manifested in the future for you in response to your present moment decisions but there is the assurance that the outcome will equal the previous deed (of which the intention behind the deed is a crucial determining factor) in its nature. By serving "the self" you still serve God, albeit in a spiritually ignorant, divisive, separated and distorted manner.

My .02

[Ankh]

By serving "the self" you still serve God, albeit in a spiritually ignorant, divisive, separated and distorted manner.

I have a thought that service to self beings might have a very profound understanding of the Law of One; that they even might have an extremely deep understanding of that *all* is the Creator/One, but they pursue that understanding from another angle. My thought is that they deeply *within* realize in a way that is very difficult to understand for service to others beings, that serving the self *is* serving all/the Creator. That is just an idea of course. They are of fourth density and beyond, and have no veil. They know way more than us here in third density. And being extremely wise, neither blind or stupid, they still consciously pursue this path, until the "stop sign", by some reason.

[Shin'Ar]

until the "stop sign", by some reason?????????????????????????

[Unbound]

The "stop sign" I believe she is referring to is that point where the polarities unite in the Higher Self and it is seen clearly that All is One. At that point, those of negative polarity can no longer pursue that path of polarity because it ceases to have any meaning.

[Shin'Ar]

Okay, I think you've expressed it the clearest here than you have before.

This is where there is another point of confusion within the Ra material, once again because of the rampant use of the word "Self" and "Selves". I understand this is probably difficult to make more obvious, but when one is in Service to Self, what exactly is the "Self" defined as at that point? As in, what do you feel the self-image of one such as this would be?

How can one tell if another is attached to their individuated Identity or not?

---

A greater question, is it even important to "identify" others as one or the other?

---

I also ask you in the light of your own stated Unpolarized state, do you have awareness of the path of Service to Self?

I would ask for the indulgence of all interested in continuing on this line of thought regarding identity of self. I have written on this extensively but it would be a very long post and go mostly unread. But if you would be interested I could post portions of it here or email it you. And you are right in the import of this. It is as a matter of fact the key to making the Divine Connection is it not.

The "stop sign" I believe she is referring to is that point where the polarities unite in the Higher Self and it is seen clearly that All is One. At that point, those of negative polarity can no longer pursue that path of polarity because it ceases to have any meaning.

I know you are aware of that Azreal. The irony was that she had no idea what she had actually spoken.

[Unbound]

This is the irony of the illusion, no?

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Of course, I am unsure if she has no idea of what she speaks, as she was speaking metaphorically and not technically.

[Bring4th_Austin]

The irony was that she had no idea what she had actually spoken.

And you assume this because.....?

[Shin'Ar]

That observation was not meant to be condascending, it was one of surprise.

What was said in that final remark was a proufound statement that is at the heart of the entire discussion, AND the crux of what most who insist on defending the STS path never seem to realize.

There are few here who seem to grasp that reality of the One and the direction, and yet it is said by one as they casually defend STS without even realizing they have just made the greatest defense against them.

But, it has become very clear to me that those here who support STS as one path worthy of participation, are going to continue to think so regradless of what the Ra material clearly says on the matter, and regardless of what any discussion bears upon it. This has always been the way of the world.
Those who cannot see or hear have seen and heard my thoughts of the subject. And that is all that I have to offer.

[Bring4th_Austin]

We see and hear the same thing you do, and understand it just as well, we just don't feel the same way you do. No one is more right or more aware here.

[Unbound]

I would make a distinction between the defense of STS as a usable or walkable path, and the defense of STS as the "more desirable" path. Most, I feel, are in the category of the former, with only very few individuals ever defending STS as being "better" than STO. Of course, these are just illusions, for All Serves the Creator.

It is clear that Ra stated that they are oriented towards STO, but also that they are Unpolarized, which suggests they have experienced both enough to make the distinction. They HAVE also stated that the path of STS is not wrong, nor that it is invalid, and this is also, I'm sure, part of their STO orientation. They have, although, conjectured that there are "subtle biases" which stem from the Logos which indicate that potentially one path is "more efficient" than the other, and since they also claimed our Logos is STO and oriented to Kindness, I think we can presume this is the bias.

Whether or not one will take the "efficient path" of course, comes down to the choice of the moment.

[Shin'Ar]

We see and hear the same thing you do, and understand it just as well, we just don't feel the same way you do. No one is more right or more aware here.

That could NOT be further from the truth my friend. I know that you would like to use that sort of diplomacy as a pat on the back and to gain some likes in the forum. But anyone that does so would be simply ignoring the truth.

Many have a great deal more experience and understanding than we do. We are all evolved in varying degrees simply because we all began and learn and experience at varying states.

To say that everyone is as evolved as I am, or that I am more evolved than another is just not understanding the ways of the evoltuoj of cosnsciousness and defying the absolute vastness of the cosmos.

I am actually very surprsied that you make such a statement.

It is clear that Ra stated that they are oriented towards STO, but also that they are Unpolarized,

And I think this is where Ra and I become at odds Azrael. If Ra does state that I believe them to be mistaken or ingenuous for some reason.

It is my understanding that all of creation is polarized and remains so until it becomes reunited as the Source. the polarized state of the cosmos is simply the manifestation of the action of the Source. Had the Source remained unmanifested, there would be no polarization and no universe.

[Unbound]

I think they are here making the distinction of Polarity entirely in reference to STS and STO, in that polarity is more than STS and STO. In that they are "Unpolarized" because they are at that point where STS and STO cease to have any meaning, that "stop sign" as was just previously mentioned. They state they are beyond this point where All is seen as One, and so to be "Unpolarized", I presume is to be in awareness of that fact consistently?

To be honest, I've been a little confused about this with Ra myself.

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They say they "seek without polarity", not that they are Unpolarized, so perhaps this wording indicates something different than you are thinking.

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One might draw upon how Ra expresses that the polarity of the previous octave was expressed as "The Mover and the Moved", whereas this one is "Service to Self/Other Selves", and so I presume the next octave has a different conception of polarity.

[Shin'Ar]

Okay, I think you've expressed it the clearest here than you have before.

This is where there is another point of confusion within the Ra material, once again because of the rampant use of the word "Self" and "Selves". I understand this is probably difficult to make more obvious, but when one is in Service to Self, what exactly is the "Self" defined as at that point? As in, what do you feel the self-image of one such as this would be?

How can one tell if another is attached to their individuated Identity or not?

---

A greater question, is it even important to "identify" others as one or the other?

---

I also ask you in the light of your own stated Unpolarized state, do you have awareness of the path of Service to Self?

I would ask for the indulgence of all interested in continuing on this line of thought regarding identity of self. I have written on this extensively but it would be a very long post and go mostly unread. But if you would be interested I could post portions of it here or email it you. And you are right in the import of this. It is as a matter of fact the key to making the Divine Connection is it not.

I think they are here making the distinction of Polarity entirely in reference to STS and STO, in that polarity is more than STS and STO. In that they are "Unpolarized" because they are at that point where STS and STO cease to have any meaning, that "stop sign" as was just previously mentioned. They state they are beyond this point where All is seen as One, and so to be "Unpolarized", I presume is to be in awareness of that fact consistently?

To be honest, I've been a little confused about this with Ra myself.

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They say they "seek without polarity", not that they are Unpolarized, so perhaps this wording indicates something different than you are thinking.

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One might draw upon how Ra expresses that the polarity of the previous octave was expressed as "The Mover and the Moved", whereas this one is "Service to Self/Other Selves", and so I presume the next octave has a different conception of polarity.

Before my channeling is done, I want to remind you that Ra is a source of information that can be misinformed as well as misinterpreted. ra is not a God that has some hold on all truth. as with any group of beings evolving through existence just as we are, Ra can be subject to mistake and error or even deception and manipulation. It is wise to use discernment when considering information acquired, always, regardless of the place it is acquired.

there is much in the Ra material that seems to speak to truth as I understand it, but if am wise I will be certain to avoid worshiping it.

[Unbound]

I agree with you 100%, and indeed that was one of my very first discernments when I came upon the Ra Material. To be honest, at first I was incredibly suspicious and scrutinizing of it and only over time did I see it "without polarity".

[Ankh]

I think they are here making the distinction of Polarity entirely in reference to STS and STO, in that polarity is more than STS and STO. In that they are "Unpolarized" because they are at that point where STS and STO cease to have any meaning, that "stop sign" as was just previously mentioned. They state they are beyond this point where All is seen as One, and so to be "Unpolarized", I presume is to be in awareness of that fact consistently?

To be honest, I've been a little confused about this with Ra myself.

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They say they "seek without polarity", not that they are Unpolarized, so perhaps this wording indicates something different than you are thinking.

I understand the statement: "we seek without polarity" meaning that in their dimension all is merged into one, into unity, to such an extent that that the difference between the self and other self is not seen. In their dimension they said: "I am Ra. We communicate now. We, too, have our place. We are not those of the Love or of the Light. We are those who are of the Law of One. In our vibration the polarities are harmonized, the complexities are simplified, and the paradoxes have their solution. We are one. That is our nature and our purpose."

Shin'Ar - I seek and seek of how to serve you, of what to tell you, but I can't see it yet. If it makes your heart lighter I can add a few statements: I am consciously trying to polarize into the service to others path. In doing so, I am accepting service to self beings as my other selves. I am consciously trying to learn the Law of One as it is taught by the social memory complex Ra. I do so because after 19 years of searching and seeking in other metaphysical and religious belief systems, I finally found something that resonated with me. What the Law of One teaches is that to see all things, all beings, all of the Creation as the One Infinite Creator. That means that when you see another self, see the Creator. I would advice you to read the thread in the "Sessions in focus" sub-forum, called "The Boundaries of the FREE WILL". But I understand that it is only you that can bring peace into your heart, and if you enjoy doing what you are doing - then, be my guest. If you enjoy "saving" others - then sure. Just know that this "saving others" service, is not of service to others oriented nature, as we have been taught by social memory complexes Ra and Latui. Specifics of this you can read in that FREE WILL thread that I've already mentioned. The service that you bring to another self, must be done from that other self's perspective, and not from yours. Because if you are providing service from your persepctive, from what you think is right and best for that other self, you cease serving that person, and now... serving the self.

[Shin'Ar]

Shin'Ar - I seek and seek of how to serve you, of what to tell you, but I can't see it yet. If it makes your heart lighter I can add a few statements: I am consciously trying to polarize into the service to others path. In doing so, I am accepting service to self beings as my other selves. I am consciously trying to learn the Law of One as it is taught by the social memory complex Ra. I do so because after 19 years of searching and seeking in other metaphysical and religious belief systems, I finally found something that resonated with me. What the Law of One teaches is that to see all things, all beings, all of the Creation as the One Infinite Creator. That means that when you see another self, see the Creator. I would advice you to read the thread in the "Sessions in focus" sub-forum, called "The Boundaries of the FREE WILL". But I understand that it is only you that can bring peace into your heart, and if you enjoy doing what you are doing - then, be my guest. If you enjoy "saving" others - then sure. Just know that this "saving others" service, is not of service to others oriented nature, as we have been taught by social memory complexes Ra and Latui. Specifics of this you can read in that FREE WILL thread that I've already mentioned. The service that you bring to another self, must be done from that other self's perspective, and not from yours. Because if you are providing service from your persepctive, from what you think is right and best for that other self, you cease serving that person, and now... serving the self.

Ankh,

You say that this is the only place that you have found teachings about the One that have 'met with your understandings of it'. I wonder why that is? Because I know of many others who teach a similar doctrine, most of which are all very much in line with each other. I think the main attraction of most here toward the Ra material is its focus on STS. And I think that they use a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of this as an excuse to walk in darkness.

Now as for my wanting to 'save' others. That too is nothing more than using a tabboo signature to try to paint someone in a light that most people of our unhderstandings would balk at. Your effort might cause some here to see me as such. But it doesn't change the truth of why I speak the things I do. I do not require a pat on the back to speak what I know is truth. And the constant use of Ra quotes taken out of their true context is not a deterent either. It may fool many, but it does not fool those wise to the manipulation, whether innocent or deliberate.

I do not speak out to gain anything for myself and I certainly do not speak out to fall into one of the two categories of STO or STS that just about every single enetity in this forum does. Is that all that you have gained from the lessons that Ra has spoken?

You can categorize me based on that degree of understanding if you choose to do so, and I really do not care which category you place me in. But if you at least hear what I have to say than maybe my words have a chance to benefit the All in a positive way. And that is the intent of why I speak.

I have no agenda except to make sure that the true message is available to be sorted out from the mass of misinformation. And it doesn't matter why I think my understanding is rooted more in truth than someone else's. Because it still needs to be discerned thoroughly, and I would always advise that. It is up to me to discover to truth, and upon finding it, to point to it so that others may follow. It is still up to them to discern the path that I shed light on.

There is no service to myself, in this regard, for I do not look back to see how many are following me. I do not call on them for anything at all. I see them as my tail. The part of me that was, is coming along behind the rest of me, as my Body. I am a Light, and nothing else. The saving is done by those who follow. They save themselves by following the Light, instead of walking into the darkness. I have no leash on them and would not bother to do so even if I could. Because that is not part of the Grand Design. The design is for each and every fragment of the One Consciousness to experience creation from its own point of view, and to return to the Source with that experience. Mine is mine, yours is yours, and Ours is Ours. Nothing is saved from that design.

There is direction and choice. You choose to believe in the Ra material because it fits into your understanding and serves what you think is your self.

My understanding of self is very different from your defintion.

[Bring4th_Austin]

We see and hear the same thing you do, and understand it just as well, we just don't feel the same way you do. No one is more right or more aware here.

That could NOT be further from the truth my friend. I know that you would like to use that sort of diplomacy as a pat on the back and to gain some likes in the forum. But anyone that does so would be simply ignoring the truth.

That's just a silly statement and "could not be further from the truth my friend." Look, I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about. For some reason, you claim that Ankh had no clue of what she was saying. Why would she even allude to a metaphorical stop sign if she didn't understand it? I know for a fact she knows very well what she's talking about because this isn't the first the STS orientation has been discuss here and it won't be the last. Ankh has even made a thread about this concept. So if you want to believe you hold some elevated understanding that we're all lacking, feel free; if you want to assume that because someone disagrees with you it means that they lack your depth of awareness, go ahead...just don't expect blind followers, and when you make condescending and presumptuous statements like "she had no idea what she had actually spoken," don't expect to hold on to too much legitimacy.

Many have a great deal more experience and understanding than we do. We are all evolved in varying degrees simply because we all began and learn and experience at varying states.

To say that everyone is as evolved as I am, or that I am more evolved than another is just not understanding the ways of the evoltuoj of cosnsciousness and defying the absolute vastness of the cosmos.

I am actually very surprsied that you make such a statement.

I said nothing about evolution of consciousness and was referring to this topic specifically. I understand that you want to see yourself as some angel that descended upon Bring4th to bring the light and show everyone the evil ways of our STS enemies and lead the blind from the darkness, but I've got no desire to discuss with someone that holds that sort of mentality and I know many others here don't either, so just keep that in mind as you preach.

[Shin'Ar]

but I've got no desire to discuss with someone that holds that sort of mentality and I know many others here don't either, so just keep that in mind as you preach.

May I suggest that, since you seem to be determined to misunderstand me, even when I try to clear up such misunderstanding, that you simply avoid discussion with me instead of bothering to post that you do not want to post to me.

I attempted to make itr perfectly clear that no insult was meant, and note that Ankh has not responded as though she took it that way. What I meant by the remark was that it was so profound that the extent of it was probably not realized. Wew all know what she meant by it. My remark was that it was far more critical to the truth of the discussion than anything else that has been said. There is a word for that phenomena, if any of you who know it could post I would be appreciative. My english is sometimes lacking.

[Ankh]

Ankh,

You say that this is the only place that you have found teachings about the One that have 'met with your understandings of it'. I wonder why that is?

I said that the Ra material is finally, after 19 years of searching and seeking (=meaning that I went through quite a pile of other teachings and was tired if dissonance), was something that I resonated with. I cried among other things. I finally found something that felt like home again.

Q'uo, Sunday Meditation 2008_0322

Your path of resonance is unique. No matter how wise your teacher or how inspired the writing, there is almost no chance that everything a given teacher or writer offers to you as food for thought will resonate to you. Ideally, those concepts which you follow will be those concepts which, when first read or heard, awaken within a seeker a kind of recollection as though he already knew that but was happy to be reminded of it once again.

And the constant use of Ra quotes taken out of their true context is not a deterent either. It may fool many, but it does not fool those wise to the manipulation, whether innocent or deliberate.

Here is an awesome site, Shin'Ar: www.lawofone.info. When you come to the first page, there is a little box to your left there, where it says: "Search the Law of One Sessions". In that box you can click on match either by "any word", or "all words", or "exact phrase". I usually provide the link to the whole session I am quoting of Ra/Q'uo, but am perhaps sloppy at times, or forgetting that. Anyway, when you see a quote "taken out of their true context" you can search for that specific session on that site, and offer us your understanding of it. The Law of One material is always welcomed to be discussed on this board.

I do not speak out to gain anything for myself and I certainly do not speak out to fall into one of the two categories of STO or STS that just about every single enetity in this forum does. Is that all that you have gained from the lessons that Ra has spoken?

You can categorize me based on that degree of understanding if you choose to do so, and I really do not care which category you place me in.

I am sorry to hear that you took my words as for categorizing you as STS, my brother. It was *not* my intention. The service to others path is a straight and narrow path to walk, and I am learning.

What I offered in my other post to you is my understanding that when you serve the other self in the way that *you* find it to be best and right for that other self, you cease to be of service to that person. And I do *not* mean it as to say that you are service to self oriented.

If you have the interest and time, please do read that FREE WILL thread that I was referring to in my previous post. I would welcome any discussions in that thread, as I believe that concept to be a number one understanding when walking the service to others path, but I have nothing to add to that thread, as it contains so much information that is rich in itself.

There is no service to myself, in this regard, for I do not look back to see how many are following me.

That's great, my brother. A detachment to the outcome when service to others is being offered, is what the Free Will distortion is about.

I do not call on them for anything at all. I see them as my tail. The part of me that was, is coming along behind the rest of me, as my Body. I am a Light, and nothing else. The saving is done by those who follow. They save themselves by following the Light, instead of walking into the darkness.

I would rather see that each little portion of intelligence, no matter how small or big, would turn on its own light. Those who like my/your light may come to that light and get to know it; and that is our service to others - to share the love and the light of our One Infinite Creator. And maybe some will find the inspiration to lit their own light, and that is when magic happens. When someone turns on its own light and start shining with its own unique beauty. Each light is of infinite worth.

I attempted to make itr perfectly clear that no insult was meant, and note that Ankh has not responded as though she took it that way. What I meant by the remark was that it was so profound that the extent of it was probably not realized.

Sometimes I do not respond to the posts because I can't see in what way I can be of service to that other self. Avoiding unnecessary conflicts and yapping is then more important to me than responding to the post, where I can not be of service anyway. I appologize if you took it as an insult, and I promise to better my behavior from now on, and each time another self addresses me try to respond to that. However, after my initial post where I was just sharing my thoughts, you did not addressed me directly, therefore I saw no need to respond to you. It was not done because I lacked the respect for you.

Wew all know what she meant by it. My remark was that it was far more critical to the truth of the discussion than anything else that has been said.

I can offer my understanding and explanation to why I wrote as I wrote, and what exactly I meant, if that will be your wish, but I wonder, could you please do me a service and offer your own understanding of what you think that I meant?