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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters POLL: The Use of Protection Rituals

    Poll: do you use Protection Rituals?
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    yes, on a regular basis
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    4 13.33%
    no, have never tried one
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    I have used them, but not on a regular basis
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    Thread: POLL: The Use of Protection Rituals


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    #31
    03-14-2012, 12:22 AM (This post was last modified: 03-14-2012, 12:33 AM by jacrob.)
    I agree with Richard in that I believe it's all catalyst and it's how you deal with it that's important. Who knows if it's self induced or imposed by another being...

    When needed I usually ended up praying an 'Our Father', a 'Hail Mary' then asking Jesus the Christed One, His Mother Mary, the Archangels, my higher self and guides to protect me and remove any negative cordings, attachments etc.

    I have also used a Hebrew protective mantra on occassion for the last couple of years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYUvxaorblo

    The guide teaches you how to pronounce the words then you get a sample of how it's chanted. It's wonderfully rhythmical once you get the hang of it. It's an invocation of the protective archangels and the video has a nice feel to it. I think it's the voice and clouds and symbols.

    My son and I used to go for walks and sing it as we go along.


    This is the blurb of link I attached previously:

    "This is part of the bedtime Shema, the prayers and meditations before sleep, found in the Siddur after the evening service, Maariv.

    One of the most ancient names of G-d is "El" - and we see that name in the names of the angels.

    The first angel is Michael - "mi"="who" - "C"="like" [is] like G-D - right side

    The second angel is Gavriel - the Gevurah, power of G-d - left side

    The third angel is Uriel - the Or - light of G-d - in front

    The fourth angel is Rafael - healed by G-d - following

    The fifth angel is Shekhinat El - the Shekhina - feminine presence of G-d - above the head.

    The breathing sounds are reminders to take deep, full breaths as you do the meditation, through the nose, holding slightly as feels comfortable.

    This meditation brings great protection and comfort, and can be used as a mantra anywhere, anytime."

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    #32
    03-14-2012, 12:59 AM
    Too much acceptance can mean setting aside your sovereignty, and letting something else pull your strings, or even possess you.

    I find value in drawing the line somewhere.
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    03-14-2012, 01:14 AM
    (12-21-2011, 07:47 AM)Tyler Durden Maybe Wrote: I voted: "no, have never tried one"

    For me personally, the whole idea of "Ritual", has always rubbed me the wrong way. Even the word "Ritual" gives me a bad vibe.

    But, maybe I don't understand what the definition of "Ritual" means in the context of "Protection Ritual"

    For example, every time I start a Bike Ride, I say aloud "Hey Universe, hit me with car why don't ya!" and by what I call "The Law of Revere Universe Psychology" a car never hits me. Is that a "Protection Ritual?"

    That's what I was thinking too.

    Is it a Protection Ritual to say to myself "people will be people, just let them do what they are going to do, this event won't be important an hour from now"? If so, then yes.

    But if Rituals are more defined as- draw a star in the air while facing east, three times, and say meckaleckahighmeckahineyhoe, ... Then, no.
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    #34
    03-14-2012, 01:17 AM
    well you're a monkey. you're not fancypansy like the druids. Smile

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    03-14-2012, 01:44 AM
    A protection ritual is a way of keeping astral critters from calling your body or organs "home". Or even your mind. On top of that it filters the frequencies you want, in order that acts such as "channeling" may take place with the least amount of invasion/distortion.

    Here is a good example of an individual that picked up a parasite from their workplace. http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/psych...uides.html
    All that is needed is a chink in the armor. Allowed to go on and the person may eventaully be labeled a mental patient, or even commit suicide. Free will also allows you to remain asleep to what is in your space with "you".

    Obviously it is possible to bypass all ritual and use will only.

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    #36
    03-14-2012, 06:01 AM
    (03-13-2012, 06:29 PM)Lulu Wrote: awww thanks. And yes, indeed I have been fairly moderated already a few times. ;-)

    Lol!! Well, tell him that you like Burning Man, and maybe he will go easier on you next time. ; )

    Lulu Wrote:Thanks for the quote, which I like. How could would I apply that to these experiences when they happen do you think?

    Something does feel distorted. This morning when it happened for perhaps the first time ever I felt really angry about it! I had been in such a pleasing state for many many hours.

    Meditation, contemplation and prayers; or whatever of spiritual nature that you find suitable. This is my advice. Also Confederation entities are quite nagging about this whole meditation thing. ; )

    I found this "there is no greater magic than an honest distortion towards love" to be a very helpful exercise in moments when it's too much, when it feels like you are drowning in catalysts and negativity and negative energies. What I found helpful in these situations is to: become aware. Stop your thoughts and focus your attention in the present moment. Then ask yourself: "Do I want to feel that way?" Wait for the answer. For me the usual answer is "No. I want to feel love." This desire for love came to me from the spirit in one meditation. It was pure, clear and uninfected. There was no doubt about it. So when it's too much, I try to bring that spiritual desire into the current space/time moment. It is not always possible to do the work in consciousness by meditation/contemplation, as third density is a busy and noisy one. So when it's not possible, then I find this exercise to be helpful. In this exercise you also work with your *will*. My understanding is that by using this exercise, or method, you strengthen your will.

    Lulu Wrote:Sometimes it seems as if I'm feeling their "lies" and lack of truth.

    In meditation/contemplation, find these feelings inside yourself, and then accept them in your self. Love them and forgive yourself for feeling this way. Love yourself. Then, when seeing them in others, accept these in them, and try to find love for them despite their shortcomings. We are one, and trying our best. Forgive yourself and others for learning all these lessons, as they are difficult.

    If you would like help/protection during these meditations/contemplations ask your Higher Self and/or guidance system for that help. I used to address my Higher Self before meditations with words like: "Oh the Great Spirit which I am a little part of (this indicates/refers also to One Infinite Creator; you can change these words into whatever that suits you), I am thanking you for all the gifts and experiences and your services. I would like to have help with..... Thank you. Adonai/whatever resonates." The answer *may* come instantly, in that very meditation, or it may be a little while before you receive it. Be attentive.

    Lulu Wrote:Whatever it is, it's very distracting and even somewhat disabling to my otherwise natural state plus it's seems to have no real purpose and is entirely unappreciated.

    I would like to find a solution so that I understand it and then I can adjust so that I no longer experience it.

    "Solution" to this, in my experience, is understanding. Understanding of the self, and then others. Finding that which is annoying and distracting in the self, and accepting it, and finding love for that which is of negative nature. Then looking at others, and see this in them, and accepting it, finding love for that. You don't have to teach or tell them, if unasked. It's enough that you find full acceptance and love for what you see in others, as it is also in you. Others are mirrors, and each has its own path to walk. When you manage to find full acceptance and love of what annoys you in others, you will no longer feel this crippling negativity, but feel love. I am telling you how I work. It might not be suitable for you. You just need to find a method which resonates with you. Doesn't matter which one it is, as long as it works, right? Heart/Smile
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    03-14-2012, 12:19 PM
    Ritual is not meant to be a traditional, unthinking repetiton of meaningless superstition. It is supposed to have a purpose.

    The Ancients performed rituals for various reasons, but it was usually to honor the Higher Beings and to seek their councel and assistance.

    There are many beings existing among us that influence us and interact with us in many ways. We should avoid the ones who wish us harm and seek after those who would offer us love.

    Ritual is opening the gateway so that the connection of fields can be made, thus mating with those energies that vibrate love and share information that enables you to further share love and truth. That gateway MUST be guarded, thus the need for the protection.



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    03-14-2012, 12:53 PM
    (03-14-2012, 12:19 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Ritual is opening the gateway so that the connection of fields can be made, thus mating with those energies that vibrate love and share information that enables you to further share love and truth. That gateway MUST be guarded, thus the need for the protection.

    "Must be guarded" sounds like fear. How can love and fear be together? Should we dissect this phenomenon?
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    03-14-2012, 01:20 PM
    (03-14-2012, 12:53 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:
    (03-14-2012, 12:19 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Ritual is opening the gateway so that the connection of fields can be made, thus mating with those energies that vibrate love and share information that enables you to further share love and truth. That gateway MUST be guarded, thus the need for the protection.

    "Must be guarded" sounds like fear. How can love and fear be together? Should we dissect this phenomenon?

    Yes, it would very wise to discern these things that affect one so seriously. the goal is to try to be vibrating more often in frequencies of love rather than fear.

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    #40
    03-14-2012, 01:49 PM
    (03-14-2012, 12:19 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Ritual is not meant to be a traditional, unthinking repetiton of meaningless superstition. It is supposed to have a purpose.

    The Ancients performed rituals for various reasons, but it was usually to honor the Higher Beings and to seek their councel and assistance.

    There are many beings existing among us that influence us and interact with us in many ways. We should avoid the ones who wish us harm and seek after those who would offer us love.

    Ritual is opening the gateway so that the connection of fields can be made, thus mating with those energies that vibrate love and share information that enables you to further share love and truth. That gateway MUST be guarded, thus the need for the protection.

    Shin'Ar, to seek counsel and be grateful for the aid given by the positively polarized, higher density beings, is good. That's what L/L Research does when having sessions with Q'uo for instance. But why does L/L Research does that? Well, I can't be sure of course, but my guess would be that they wish to be of service to others. We are very grateful to Hatonn, Latui, Ra and others for communicating with us, for sharing their love and their wisdom with us, but I don't think that L/L Research does these sessions in order to just honor Higher Beings? We all honor them in our minds and our hearts, as we honor each other. But I think that the counsel is sought, and the contact is made, because one wishes to be of service to this planet and the people walking it.

    If the gateway you speak of in your post is the gateway to intelligent infinity, then you do know that according to the Ra material, it can be opened by both negatively and positively oriented entities.

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    #41
    03-14-2012, 02:03 PM
    It is only natural for us to strive towards love in all our endeavors given that at the deepest core of our beings we are forged in the macrocosmic fires of unending love and light. The love we seek stems from our nature as beings comprised of love, as we only seek to remember and reattain the love which is our existential foundation.
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    #42
    03-14-2012, 11:00 PM (This post was last modified: 03-14-2012, 11:09 PM by Lulu.)
    Jacrob,

    thanks for all the hebrew stuff but... I'm not really that great of friends with Yah'weh anymore. And the angles part of the hidden realms of the Illuminati IMO. I know they all mean well but just like politics --neither side is is really for me.
    ;-)
    Lulu




    oh my, lots of good stuff and interesting advice to read here. thank you for all your help guys. If I see something new or that I haven't experimented with more recently I'll give a sampling and I'll let you know what comes up. thanks again all!
    Lulu

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    #43
    03-14-2012, 11:52 PM
    (03-14-2012, 11:00 PM)Lulu Wrote: Jacrob,

    thanks for all the hebrew stuff but... I'm not really that great of friends with Yah'weh anymore. And the angles part of the hidden realms of the Illuminati IMO. I know they all mean well but just like politics --neither side is is really for me.
    ;-)
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    oh my, lots of good stuff and interesting advice to read here. thank you for all your help guys. If I see something new or that I haven't experimented with more recently I'll give a sampling and I'll let you know what comes up. thanks again all!
    Lulu

    Ra has some really interesting things to say about Yahweh. I have trouble posting links from my iPad, but if you just search Yahweh in the forums and on the library search you will find it. Also www.lawofone.info is an awesome search site for the Ra material


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    #44
    03-15-2012, 12:32 AM
    Q: Right now I feel a feeling at the indigo center. If this center were totally activated and not blocked at all, would I then feel nothing there?
    Ra: I am Ra. This query, if answered, would infringe upon the Law of Confusion.

    hmmmmmm........

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    04-05-2012, 12:51 AM (This post was last modified: 04-05-2012, 12:54 AM by Lulu.)
    [quote='Lulu' pid='76314' dateline='1331696455']
    thank you all! I'll have a go at it your suggestions. Especially anything I haven't tried in awhile.

    Some times godwide_void ya, as frustrating as it is I do too wonder at what point am I already perhaps in assistance OF the creator and that is WHY it IS happening. Angel
    EEEk comprehension funk. But then again this is 2012 after all!

    Without this frustration and therefore this pursuit to solve it what would I be doing right now?

    I will continue to ask for the assistance...
    Heart thank you, all! Heart
    Lulu


    well... it seems the most least likely method is what I needed to do. It's not a tasteful choice. I would rather the sensations just NOT be there. However, they are, I must work with them in whatever way will eliminate the disturbance it creates for me.

    So what I do when I feel the sensations come on is focus to breathe the energy in and set the intention to consume and devour it from the direction it is coming from. It is best if I do it the moment it comes on, too long and I start feeling too much angst myself. It's not yet easy to do as my habit of impulse is to leave if I can, or to disappear into myself and wait it out hoping it will be "over" soon.

    Anyways, from what I can tell so far, this seems to make those dealing with their external anxieties almost ridiculously appreciative of my presence, oddly enough.

    Lulu






    It is leaving me with an abundance of energy that is agitating.

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    04-05-2012, 05:54 PM
    "Devouring it" I never thought of it this way, but I guess that's what I do also. I absorb them and send them into the violet flame (over the crown) to be transmuted, by visualizing a vortex.

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    04-05-2012, 06:08 PM
    For "protection" I tend to charge and engulf myself in a brilliant White Fire that I connect with the Archangel Michael. If I am purifying I will use the Violet Flame, sometimes connecting with St. Germain. Sometimes I'll also use Blue Fire if I am purifying a channel or communication or empowering the throat chakra. I've also used Green Fire before as a ground, powerful connects loving Earth energies with the Heart. Of course, I use flames of all colours, sometimes rainbow flames or black/white/grey flames, all depends on what I'm feeling.

    Depends on what I am feeling though. Other times it is more effective to use a water technique and to get a downward flow from the crown to my feet to flush out and blockages or collecting energy. Or sometimes grounding is all I really need and I will actually visualized my lower legs/feet turning in to Earth and stone and merging with the ground, which works even when I'm walking cause it like, detaches with each step and then reconnects. The imagination is the best protection.
    Of course, all of these techniques are really just ways of re-taking command of my own power where it had been given over to other. When I use the Violet Flame this to me is the same as "devouring and transmuting".
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    04-06-2012, 01:38 AM
    Hi The Eternal,
    Thanks for sharing, I don't know if I'm paranoid or what but the archangels mostly seem like posers to me. Maybe there is something higher still and I'm just meeting up with the wanna-bees but in general I don't like dealing in the realms of the god-construct beings in duality. There are times, where it is simply unavoidable. At the same time, I'm thankful they are there for whoever needs them, when we are in that realm, for lack of better words.
    Lulu


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    04-06-2012, 05:39 AM
    (12-21-2011, 10:13 AM)zenmaster Wrote: All that assaults our senses is catalyst. In order to work with catalyst, it must be recognized. 'Ritual' is a means to create a frame of mind to be more conscious of a particular catalyst. There are formal rituals and there are less formal. Meditation could even be considered a form of ritual. In any event, it's like a crutch for someone to use to access a part of themselves which is unbalanced. All technique is ultimately an illusion.

    Equally, all __________ is ultimately an illusion.

    Fill in the blank with anything and everything.

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    04-06-2012, 05:58 AM
    Let go and let in. What is me is seeking me already and what is not me is trying to get away already, i am the one that holds on stuff and slow everything;

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    04-06-2012, 09:08 AM
    (04-06-2012, 01:38 AM)Lulu Wrote: Hi The Eternal,
    Thanks for sharing, I don't know if I'm paranoid or what but the archangels mostly seem like posers to me. Maybe there is something higher still and I'm just meeting up with the wanna-bees but in general I don't like dealing in the realms of the god-construct beings in duality. There are times, where it is simply unavoidable. At the same time, I'm thankful they are there for whoever needs them, when we are in that realm, for lack of better words.
    Lulu


    This is simply Christian baggage Lulu. Many have the same problem with Lucifer, and God.

    If one thinks of the archangels as the first highly evolved consciousness to visit this planet, than it gives their character an entirely different concept that given them by the Biblical representations.

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    04-06-2012, 12:23 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2012, 12:30 PM by Lulu.)
    [/quote]


    This is simply Christian baggage Lulu. Many have the same problem with Lucifer, and God.

    If one thinks of the archangels as the first highly evolved consciousness to visit this planet, than it gives their character an entirely different concept that given them by the Biblical representations.


    [/quote]

    Shin'ar , I don't agree with you. To think of them as the first highly evolved consciousness beings that visited this planet is just another spin on putting power and glory onto another being. In there are assumptions that another being knows what is better for you, then you do for yourself.



    It amazes me how many people trust their "guides"! Yet most often they cannot see them, they also don't know the name of them and they don't know who they were/or are. If they can, they trust what they see, because they want to.

    It's not that difficult to project oneself as an angel, to those susceptible to do-gooder ideals and then to be able to influence them towards agendas. I've also seen "guides" who are like a flock of sickly blackbirds pecking at the soul of the "light-worker".

    If you want to hang out with AA Michael and the angel gang, then go for it. Tell em' I said hi!
    Like I said, I prefer to stay out of the duality construct, and move towards self-empowerment and empowerment of others, that includes being able to see past what we want to "believe" to soothe ourselves.

    Lulu

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    04-06-2012, 12:36 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2012, 01:46 PM by Patrick.)
    If you cannot trust other selves, then you can only trust your self. And if you can only trust your self, is this the STS path ?

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    04-06-2012, 01:03 PM
    I would assume.
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    04-06-2012, 01:46 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2012, 01:47 PM by Lulu.)
    Learning to know yourself SO well that you Trust yourself so well, that you THEN KNOW whether TO trust others or NOT is the key.

    If you don't know yourself and trust yourself, then trusting others on Assumptions, gives away your power instantaneously.

    If you think you should not have this Power, then you will be available to be easily enslaved.

    Lulu

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    #56
    04-06-2012, 01:55 PM
    We are enslaved, all of us. Still I trust others, but it is true that I filter everything through my intuition.

    How do you reconcile "self-empowerment and empowerment of others" ?

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    04-06-2012, 02:25 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2012, 02:27 PM by Lulu.)
    reconcile? I don't need to reconcile those words, but do you?

    Empowering others is like ME sharing with others what I experienced, what I know, or what I feel --if I am compelled to do so. What others do with it, or what is useful for them, is up to them obviously. Often times they feel defensive. For me, I recognize the difference between clear discernment vs defensiveness. This first means I disagree but am clear about why, the latter indicates I disagree but I don't know why. I always know I have something to work out in self-acceptance for myself if I feel 'defense' arise.

    I cannot empower anyone but I do wish to offer what I know if I think it might be something of value. I often give examples from my own views and experiences. If someone can see themselves in it, that is the gift to them and perhaps they will make use of it.

    To further empower myself I appreciate what others offer and share, and often it gives me clarity regardless of what it is or if I agree.

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    04-06-2012, 02:38 PM
    Thank you for your explanation.

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    04-06-2012, 02:39 PM
    (04-06-2012, 02:38 PM)Valtor Wrote: Thank you for your explanation.

    very welcome! SmileHeart
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    04-06-2012, 02:45 PM
    Quote: I recognize the difference between clear discernment
    I don't see any way that the brain is capable of discernment beyond the physical. Even then it can be fooled.

    This is the reason many utilize those guides available to them. Otherwise you really are just stuck in "belief".

    This is also how many become bogged down with entity attachment, disbelief by itself is a belief.

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