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    Thread: The Law of Responsibility


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    #31
    03-05-2011, 09:03 AM
    (03-05-2011, 06:51 AM)Ens Entium Wrote:
    (03-04-2011, 08:40 PM)Confused Wrote:
    (03-04-2011, 01:47 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: Ens Entium is Latin for "Being of Beings". I really liked the layered/faceted idea behind that term. Smile

    That seems to be a pretty apt description for the One Infinite Creator as well. And the One Infinite Creator is infinitely layered/faceted, couched or surrounded by unending mystery. from our perspective.

    Very nicely said, Confused! Smile

    Thanks, EE. May the ONE be praised for that.

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    #32
    04-13-2012, 12:43 AM
    I really really like these answers that Lorna and Unity gave.


    (02-03-2011, 08:56 PM)Lorna Wrote: my experience is that once accepting the reality of the LOO there is a responsibility to live the LOO, that the brighter one's light the harsher the catalyst experienced when not living in alignment with the LOO



    (02-03-2011, 09:55 PM)unity100 Wrote: the closer to the light, the more powerful creative effect of thoughts are. you become responsible with what you create.

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    and perhaps posting the full quote in context offers a deeper understanding of the selected passage:

    Quote:101.8 Questioner: Thank you. Could Ra give information on any way that we could give information to (name) as to how to alleviate her present condition of swelling?

    Ra: I am Ra. We may only suggest that the honor of propinquity to light carries with it the Law of Responsibility. The duty to refrain from contumely and discord in all things, which, when unresolved within, makes way for workings, lies before the instrument of which you speak. This entity may, if it is desired by the scribe, share our comments upon the working of the latter entity.

    The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly. This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination.
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    #33
    04-21-2012, 11:21 AM
    Thanks for picking the nice quote, plenum! Smile

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    #34
    04-21-2012, 10:55 PM
    Bring4th_GLB Wrote:doesn't Ra indicate something along the lines of "use it or lose it", meaning that when opportunities are not used, they become less?

    This is precisely correct!

    60.16
    Ra Wrote:when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment by moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.

    I'm a bit surprised that the Law of Responsibility has been viewed in this thread with such opacity. It is embedded in experience anywhere you turn! When you stop using a language you were once fluent in, you lose your fluency -- because of the Law of Responsibility. When you ignore a project that you had once been excited about, it decays in its half-finished state -- because of the Law of Responsibility. When you stop corresponding with a friend for a period of time, a degree of closeness in your relationship is lost -- because of the Law of Responsibility.

    More generally, if you do not use what the Universe has provided, it will be taken away.

    I have a friend who is abundant with information about all manner of metaphysical and mystical subjects. He even traveled out West at the call of Spirit, where he met with Native American shamans, who taught him what he needed to know from them. He used to meditate daily, and told me stories of some of his successful magical manifestations. And yet, today, he lives in poverty, unsure as to what he wants to do with himself, and without any regular spiritual practice. He is a walking example to me of the Law of Responsibility. Universe gave him enormous amounts of information for evolving, but he chose not to make use of it. So, somehow, over the course of his life, it was all taken away. When I meet with him, he is sometimes amazed that he had forgotten about all these things that my very presents reminds him of. The negative reflection of the training aids (he has used many entheogens) which I see in him is that sense of premature enlightenment. So often, when we have received information for evolution, we end up seeing the information itself as enlightenment, and not the implementation of the information which is the real enlightenment. If this confusion occurs, the pride of the ego-self which seeks aggrandizement through the belief that it is enlightened will prevent the moment-to-moment implementation of the new information. This is how too quick a rate of learning can be harmful to one's growth. It has happened to many, many self-proclaimed gurus.
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    04-22-2012, 05:10 AM (This post was last modified: 04-22-2012, 05:11 AM by Ankh.)
    My understanding of the Law of Responsibility is: as an ability to grasp the lessons increases, which also could be put as increased awareness to understand the lessons, there comes a responsibility to put in practice/manifest these understandings while making the choice/refining chosen polarity.

    There is an honor/duty/responsibility to live/act/be what you have learned to understand.

    Another way to put it would perhaps be the Law of Honor?
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    #36
    04-22-2012, 08:28 AM
    I agree Ankh, and I believe you and I are talking about two sides of the same coin: when you are honored with an increased awareness, Universe has given you new material to work with. If you use this material well, you will be honored with more. If you do not use it well, it will be taken away. I think the giving can be thought of as the honor side and the losing can be thought of as the responsibility side.

    So maybe we can bring the two together. The Law of Honor/Responsibility (at least my rendition of it) is this: If you use your resources responsibly, you will be honored with more. But if you do not honor your resources, responsibility will be invoked and they will be taken away.
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    04-22-2012, 08:36 AM
    (04-21-2012, 10:55 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote: The negative reflection of the training aids (he has used many entheogens) which I see in him is that sense of premature enlightenment. So often, when we have received information for evolution, we end up seeing the information itself as enlightenment, and not the implementation of the information which is the real enlightenment. If this confusion occurs, the pride of the ego-self which seeks aggrandizement through the belief that it is enlightened will prevent the moment-to-moment implementation of the new information. This is how too quick a rate of learning can be harmful to one's growth. It has happened to many, many self-proclaimed gurus.

    this probably needs to be read again and again.

    I remember some quote that goes along the lines of:

    "the wise man does not proclaim himself as wise. He is recognised by others as being wise. In fact, if asked, he will quite often say he knows very little at all".

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    I have also noticed this "Law of Responsibility" when it comes to my dream work. Quite often, I will received a deep coded message, one that is full of light and the presentiments of learning, and one that has been almost certainly delivered in response to a conscious/unconscious calling of mine. But if I do not decode it (or at least try), I will not receive another of these powerful dreams because I have not made use of the information that has been delivered already.

    but as soon as I work it out, the next night, another big dream!

    the Universe is indeed responsive and reflective. Smile
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    04-22-2012, 10:58 AM (This post was last modified: 04-22-2012, 11:00 AM by Ankh.)
    (04-22-2012, 08:28 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote: I agree Ankh, and I believe you and I are talking about two sides of the same coin: when you are honored with an increased awareness, Universe has given you new material to work with. If you use this material well, you will be honored with more. If you do not use it well, it will be taken away. I think the giving can be thought of as the honor side and the losing can be thought of as the responsibility side.

    So maybe we can bring the two together. The Law of Honor/Responsibility (at least my rendition of it) is this: If you use your resources responsibly, you will be honored with more. But if you do not honor your resources, responsibility will be invoked and they will be taken away.

    I believe that we are talking about two sides of the same coin too. I believe that maybe polarity is somehow central in this question about the Law of Responsibility/Honor.

    What you said made me to think of the following Ra quotes:

    Ra, 14:24 Wrote:...those who call are not in every case able to understand the answer to their calling.

    Ra, 60:27 Wrote:...Entities receive [from the Confederation] the basic information about the Original Thought and the means, that is meditation and service to others, whereby this Original Thought may be obtained.

    ... Once this basic information is received it is not put into practice in the heart and in the life experience but instead rattles about within the mind complex distortions as would a building block which has lost its place and simply rolls from side to side uselessly, yet still the entity calls. Therefore, the same basic information is repeated. Ultimately the entity decides that it is weary of this repetitive information. However, if an entity puts into practice that which it is given, it will not find repetition except when needed.

    I believe that when an entity consciously understands the information/lesson but acts against this understanding, the Law of Responsibility/Honor and loss of the polarity comes into this picture.

    Ra, 34:17 Wrote:...It [General Patton] polarized somewhat towards the negative in its lack of understanding the green ray it carried with it, rejecting the forgiveness principle which is implicit in universal love.

    The sum total of this incarnation vibrationally was a slight increase in positive polarity but a decrease in harvestability due to the rejection of the Law or Way of Responsibility; that is, seeing universal love, yet still it fought on.

    In the above quote, as I understand it, Ra says that the Law of Responsibility is seeing something, but rejecting this understanding. And doing the opposite to this understanding decreases the polarity, and harvestability. (They said that this entity's *sum of the incarnation* was a slight increase in positive polarity, but in the specific case of its lack of understanding of universal love it had within, was a somewhat polarization towards the negative.)
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    04-22-2012, 11:21 AM
    Great quotations, Ankh! You have a knack for finding relevant quotations that are not pulled by simple searches on lawofone.info.

    The opposition in these quotations between "seeing universal love" and "understanding the green ray" reminds me of two supernal sephiroth in the Tree of Life: Binah (translated "Understanding") and Chokmah (translated "Wisdom"). It would seem that Wisdom is theory which is capable of being practiced, while Understanding (in the 3D sense, and not the 4D sense) is theory which is put into practice. Thus, we say that you do not truly "understand" something until you have lived it, but you can have "wisdom" without necessarily having specific experience concerning the referent of your wisdom.
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    04-22-2012, 09:42 PM (This post was last modified: 04-22-2012, 09:51 PM by zenmaster.)
    (04-22-2012, 05:10 AM)Ankh Wrote: My understanding of the Law of Responsibility is: as an ability to grasp the lessons increases, which also could be put as increased awareness to understand the lessons, there comes a responsibility to put in practice/manifest these understandings while making the choice/refining chosen polarity.

    There is an honor/duty/responsibility to live/act/be what you have learned to understand.

    Another way to put it would perhaps be the Law of Honor?
    Yes, it's having an ability and knowing about it. But it has nothing to do with actually accepting that aspect in oneself. So given free will, knowing, yet either accepting or rejecting that aspect of oneself has consequences (the 'law' or principle which operates to some end when the ability is made conscious).

    Note that the natural lifespan was much longer before the ability existed. So after the ability existed, the collective decision was to not accept it (that is, not use it due to cultural constructs and values), and that pattern was placed into the collective mind complex for all to enjoy in their individual experiential nexus. It's like an 'instreaming energy' that was inherited but wasted, so the entropy builds and we struggle (in the dark) to find what was lost. This inevitably takes the form of unconscious questions (allegorical lessons in a sense) from the collective, and these questions attempt to restore balance to the current condition. The potential for this collective patterning was put into place from 'karma' - unresolved, specific misunderstandings about one's relationship to self and to otherself.
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    04-23-2012, 05:39 PM (This post was last modified: 04-23-2012, 05:40 PM by godwide_void.)
    I believe that the Law of Responsibility entails the entire range of reactionary circumstances which result from one's initial conscious awareness to truths ascertained when one begins to seek the penetration of the veil and ensues the further one explores and seeks refinement of comprehension of these truths not immediately known or available to us in the beginning. For instance, when at the forefront of one's mind is the acknowledgement of Creator as dwelling within the Self and Other-Self, interactions will follow accordingly. More often than not and usually never on the conscious part of the one whom you are speaking with, their words will be direct reflections of certain facets existing within your own psyche. The truth which has sunken into the subconscious mind will begin to manifest itself outwardly in one's reality. It then is of no surprise when people and circumstances which are reflective of one's understanding are generated almost instantaneously in one's life.

    The Law of Responsibility refers to the unspoken agreement to responsibility of one's own understanding and living and acting according to that understanding. For instance, if any of us were to go about espousing rhetoric of divine unity and unconditional love, yet acted in such a way that could be described as negative, unloving, or harmful to another, it is inevitable that you would undergo "instant karma". Saying and attempting to understand that "The Creator is in everyone" then punching "someone" (being the Creator) in the face... one would experience a much more intense existential backlash which would manifest in a heavier way than if that same individual were completely oblivious to and ignorant to this awareness.

    When you know, you become responsible for what you do with that knowledge.

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