First Hominids

[Aion]

The final paragraph there I think is a pretty important statement in light of all that.

[Navaratna]

Reminds me of the priest breastplate with many jewels

[Aion]

The whole thing is riveting, no?

On the edge of my seat, for sure.

[Navaratna]

Yes and I suppose actually getting the materials for your own Navaratna would be a great idea.

Maybe you already read:

"Just as a house can be fitted with a copper rod to absorb the shock of lightning, so the bodily temple can be benefited by various protective measures. Ages ago our yogis discovered that pure metals emit an astral light which is powerfully counteractive to negative pulls of the planets. Subtle electrical and magnetic radiations are constantly circulating in the universe. This problem received attention from our rishis; they found helpful not only a combination of metals, but also of plants and most effective of all faultless jewels of not less than two carats. The preventive uses of astrology have seldom been seriously studied outside of India. One little-known fact is that the proper jewels, metals, or plant preparations are valueless unless the required weight is secured, and unless these remedial agents are worn next to the skin."

Understanding it all means if you have this arrangement, along with an Eilat stone...you'd have an extremely pure energetic force field.

Attracting, amplifying good vibrations, deflecting lower and harmful negative ones in an ordering mirroring the evolution of our psychic universe

I think out of these, the Hessonite garnet would be very affordable and I'd be pretty sure of them not being fake.

Pearl in shells also.

The others will be a bit of money if you want rough emeralds for example that'd be cheap..but a flawless two carat one you know for a fact isn't fake might be a bit difficult. Or a cats eye I've never bought one, I think they're affordable but I wouldn't want a fake.

[Aion]

I think you just gave me the answer as to what stones I am supposed to put in my circlet, thanks for that. I don't know that I'll be able to afford flawless gems, but I'll do what I can.

Fortunately, I know quite a few people who are in the gems, I should be able to get what I need. I usually do.

[Navaratna]

You're lucky to be one of the people who can have these things and I think it's something to share.

I imagine how unfortunate a lot of people living in Egypt right now for example have zero chance of having any of it due to the chaotic state of the worlds economy being in complete freefall.

[Aion]

I do definitely have a lot of blessings in my life that I'm grateful for, although I wouldn't say that they have come purely by grace, but by gradual understanding of my own will and that of the divine wheels.

It is unfortunate that such things are not more accessible, even like, y'know, clean water and food. However, since we are all one, and it is something of my uh, role here to play, once I craft my circlet I will be able to extend much of that out to others. Hopefully enough that it will draw out the stones.

[Navaratna]

I do definitely have a lot of blessings in my life that I'm grateful for, although I wouldn't say that they have come purely by grace, but by gradual understanding of my own will and that of the divine wheels.

It is unfortunate that such things are not more accessible, even like, y'know, clean water and food. However, since we are all one, and it is something of my uh, role here to play, once I craft my circlet I will be able to extend much of that out to others. Hopefully enough that it will draw out the stones.

I have much to say

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=18201

There's also those Asian tektites from the Australian crater...weird objects. People interred themselves in graves in Asia with them. Chinese people had a name for them. Wtf are they.

It was truly bizarre to me that they discovered the crater around the time I started reading science articles about them.

Because years ago I saw some in a store, cut and polished so they looked like obsidian but their energy was so unusual I had to ask the person at the counter "What is this thing?"

"Tektite from the phillipines"

Haunted meteorite glass...it's eerie knowing how many Homo erectus died when that thing hit our planet.

edit: by sharing I don't mean donating I mean sharing the knowledge. "what is that you're wearing" "oh this is a navaratna" "what's that?"

I wouldn't have any hang-ups on profiting of of navaratna talisman jewelry. It's an object, not 100% just knowledge like most of sahaja yoga.

[Aion]

I have a pretty decent collection of crystals and agree they are definitely useful and powerful tools, for healing and manifestation. I think we have a Tektite somewhere...

I am particularly drawn to black tourmaline.

[Navaratna]

I have a pretty decent collection of crystals and agree they are definitely useful and powerful tools, for healing and manifestation. I think we have a Tektite somewhere...

I am particularly drawn to black tourmaline.

Is there something in particularly you want to manifest?

[Aion]

I have a pretty decent collection of crystals and agree they are definitely useful and powerful tools, for healing and manifestation. I think we have a Tektite somewhere...

I am particularly drawn to black tourmaline.

Is there something in particularly you want to manifest?

Hmm, I don't really use them for manifestation much nowadays. I mostly use them for grounding, connecting with the Earth and, well, usually seeking the wisdom of the stone spirits themselves.

Some people would like me to manifest things, but I feel it is the right path to meet the universe halfway and obtain that which I need when the time is right.

[Navaratna]

I have a pretty decent collection of crystals and agree they are definitely useful and powerful tools, for healing and manifestation. I think we have a Tektite somewhere...

I am particularly drawn to black tourmaline.

Is there something in particularly you want to manifest?

Hmm, I don't really use them for manifestation much nowadays. I mostly use them for grounding, connecting with the Earth and, well, usually seeking the wisdom of the stone spirits themselves.

Some people would like me to manifest things, but I feel it is the right path to meet the universe halfway and obtain that which I need when the time is right.

I think of lodestone for what you're describing.

Magnets repel and attract difference forces with their polarities. Lodestone is a bit of iron struck by lightning it's a very condensed power.

[Aion]

I have some lodestone, I'm pretty sure that's one I keep in my pocket pouch.

[Navaratna]

Then get ilmenite.

I'd be really surprised if someone had an ilmenite. Practically nowhere is it mentioned in books about vibratory energies, but has been found in Olmec ritual spaces.
I have a single aquamarine with ilmenite...very unique, very powerful, relatively valuable material.

Moss aquamarines of any variety aren't common but Brazilian ilmenite aquamarine is legendary to me.

I'm impressed with it's dense power.
It combines the power of a natural titanium magnet and the healing power of aquamarine.
I think it's unique ocean water contains trace levels of beryllium, and that's what is in beryls. Aquamarine is said to heal via the ocean energy.

[Aion]

I think I've heard of it under its other name manaccanite but don't think I've ever seen any in any shops around. Will have to ask around for that.

[Diana]

I would say there is a lot of 'speaking through a veil' that happens here, and in the Ra Material.

I would say for myself as someone who has watched the revolving door of Bring4th turn many times with new and old folk is that a lot of people are able to find patterns in it that relate to the systems they know, and I have seen very similar statements you are making made by other people, not specifically regarding Sahaja Yoga or anything, but the question of "has no one made these connections?"

I am fascinating by correspondence and these kinds of patterns unveiling themselves, archetypal motions and all that, but then I just come to the point of... well, so what?

No intention there of diminishing your studies and researching, I think it's super neat that you're finding these connections, but it also makes me ponder at the number of times I have seen a very similar thing play out on this forum and more reach towards what the greater reality that ties all systems of thought together might be.

Simply put, I try to always look to the unity of things.

I think there is much to be seen in the simple statement right at the beginning of the material though.

We hope to offer you a somewhat different slant upon the information which is always and ever the same.

It is the nature of the human brain to identify patterns, the compulsion of which derives from basic survival. This is one reason why we geek out about it. Regarding the arc and architecture of consciousness, it's also an important step in recognizing the underlying unification of this existence.

I am very much in alignment with Aion's view above. I proceed from the above quote by Ra, and Ra's particular slant. That particular slant is something I resonate with, and for me, that is enough. No validation is required.

[flofrog]

As Diana says, I think we all love going through seeing patterns, and it’s part of our growth for sure, so I like navaratna‘s enthusiasm. It’s just that perhaps when deepening later with time it all comes back to internal search and that is then that we go perhaps beyond pure mental search, even when that search is guided by intuition ?

there’s a moment where deep love for Creator and for the 3D world we are offered just takes on, over patterns ?

[Aion]

I would also like to add though, that I don't think "seeing patterns" means that they aren't there or that they aren't meaningful.

Instead I would point to the opposite that we see patterns because everything is composed of patterns and that perceiving those patterns is a huge part of development of the mind. So, it's not like "oh everybody sees patterns, it's all interpretation", in my mind, it's more like "everything is made of layers of interwoven pattern that takes many consciousnesses to unravel".

[Navaratna]

All is one, no distortion in Ra's message

[Aion]

Have you ever played around with reducing these numbers to their 'occult' forms?

64 = 10 = 1
49 = 13 = 4
81 = 9

[Diana]

I would also like to add though, that I don't think "seeing patterns" means that they aren't there or that they aren't meaningful.

Instead I would point to the opposite that we see patterns because everything is composed of patterns and that perceiving those patterns is a huge part of development of the mind. So, it's not like "oh everybody sees patterns, it's all interpretation", in my mind, it's more like "everything is made of layers of interwoven pattern that takes many consciousnesses to unravel".

I can see I wan't clear. I agree with what you say above. But there is also a brain stem function that recognizes patterns, because survival depends on it. At some point, the recognition of patterns includes higher functioning. I just think it's efficacious to know that there is a basic survival layer and that pattern seeking is innate, not necessarily an indication of anything else. That said, when individuals study esoteric philosophies, certainly those patterns become evident, and they are important to comprehension of the whole.

[Navaratna]

Have you ever played around with reducing these numbers to their 'occult' forms?

64 = 10 = 1
49 = 13 = 4
81 = 9

No, not sure how you derived that?
I tried putting in the sequence to Google. results: nothing. Notice how only a tiny fragment is even easy to illustrate.
[4x4=16=4th density green ray, Ra in Lawofone is Venus, diamonds in navaratna, and corresponding planet in navaratna venus]------------------------------------[49 ROYGBIV light octave--pyramid design-49 days in religions-52-Cycle of venus, pyramid angles, in years/64 DNA-hexagrams-coding formulas-lunar days-67-lunaryears-81-[ruby is planet sun, #9 in navaratna] ruby l.a.s.e.r. technology, 81st octave, sunlight, symbol of allah, Ra as sun]

1447912161925283639495264678184100103121124144147169172196199
1D.4Y/4D.7/9D.12Y/16D.19Y/25D.28Y/36D.39Y/49D.52Y/64D.67Y/81D.84Y/100D.103Y/121D.124Y/144D.147Y/169D.172Y/196D.199Y

I thought it was intriguing that 4th density [4x4=16x4=64[8th density]^^^^]
This is why I want peoples opinions. A lot of people interested in mathematics would have a close minded opinion about this though.
I didn't know about planetary squares until you showed that.

[Diana]

Have you ever played around with reducing these numbers to their 'occult' forms?

64 = 10 = 1
49 = 13 = 4
81 = 9

I'm not sure what you mean by "occult forms." I've played with numerology which reduces numbers and totals of numbers. I'm guessing that may not be what you mean?

@ Navaratna: You add the numbers (64 is 6+4).

[Spaced]

Have you ever played around with reducing these numbers to their 'occult' forms?

64 = 10 = 1
49 = 13 = 4
81 = 9

Theosophical addition

[Aion]

Occult numbers are just derived from compound numbers (double digits) and you add them together to reduce them to a simple number. It's probably more that people don't know that is what that operation in numerology is for. That is, the compound number is seen as the 'exoteric' or visible nature of the compound number, and the simple is the occult or hidden nature. It's archetypal nature.

The idea is that larger compound numbers have a relationship with their simple numbers in terms of quality.

For myself, I see numbers themselves as archetypal. So I see the numbers not just as quantities but also as qualities. I'm sure you get exactly what I mean. The idea then is that there are really only 9 numbers (zero technically not being a number proper but representing void), and all compound numbers quality derives from the combination of their simples, being more of a synthesis.

The reason I mention it because I thought it would be interesting to examine in light of your presentation of 9 densities, ROYGIV/Sun/Moon, so I would correlate the numbers together.

So, looking at the first number 64, reduced to occult number 1, which would correspond with Red, the first density, etc. This actually makes sense along the idea of DNA, programming, etc

[Spaced]

49=7*7
64=8*8
81=9*9

[Aion]

The next one is interesting too, because the middle number also seems relevant.

49 = 13, and 13 is the number of death, which 49 is also the number of the Square of Venus, who was also Ishtar who descended in to the underworld.

These sorts of things.

[Aion]

49=7*7
64=8*8
81=9*9

Squares, HMMM.    Nice catch.

[Navaratna]

Occult numbers are just derived from compound numbers (double digits) and you add them together to reduce them to a simple number. It's probably more that people don't know that is what that operation in numerology is for. That is, the compound number is seen as the 'exoteric' or visible nature of the compound number, and the simple is the occult or hidden nature. It's archetypal nature.

The idea is that larger compound numbers have a relationship with their simple numbers in terms of quality.

For myself, I see numbers themselves as archetypal. So I see the numbers not just as quantities but also as qualities. I'm sure you get exactly what I mean. The idea then is that there are really only 9 numbers (zero technically not being a number proper but representing void), and all compound numbers quality derives from the combination of their simples, being more of a synthesis.

The reason I mention it because I thought it would be interesting to examine in light of your presentation of 9 densities, ROYGIV/Sun/Moon, so I would correlate the numbers together.

So, looking at the first number 64, reduced to occult number 1, which would correspond with Red, the first density, etc. This actually makes sense along the idea of DNA, programming, etc

Hmm show your work?

might as well save it to a notepad
1447912161925283639495264678184100103121124144147169172196199

edit:

oh I see so..

1, 4 = 5  |  5+ ___blank = 5
4, 7 = 11 | 1+ 1 = 2

edit #2:

I wonder if the whole sequence decoded and put in to google or bing would show some correspondence to some Hermetic or ancient offshoot. I think it'd show that whichever outlandish religious sect used this complete either 9 level or 14 level extended set...would mean they decoded it on some level and would be worth paying more attention to.

I can see how this could be used for fun just like how 64 is used in chess and tower of Hanoi games, and 64 bit programming... [Nintendo 64] but people either losing the meaning, or only the designers knowing it and simply not delving in to details. either a board game or on a Nintendo.

[Aion]

Now here's a fun one with squares, you can construct a perfect square using a compass, a circle. Squaring the circle anyone?

https://www.mathopenref.com/constsquare.html