Mahatma Gandhi STS?

[moyal]

About Gandhi - I think to have read that he did it, when he supposedly was in a hunger strike for some political reason.

[AnthroHeart]

If we think Ghandi was STS and we are STO, then we are lost.

[Black Dragon]

If we think Ghandi was STS and we are STO, then we are lost.

Well, as I said earlier, I highly doubt that Ghandi was STS...my point is just that, like pretty much all of us incarnate here, that he may have had some very human distortions and didn't always speak and act in a way that was 100% enlightened and non-ego driven all day every day in everything he ever said and did.

As far as weird sex magic by sleeping with those women...I'm doubtful that's what Ghandi was trying to do. It was a braggadocios stunt and/or maybe trying to prove something to himself more than anything because he was in judgment and condemnation of his own sexual impulses and coming from an standpoint of control and denial rather than acceptance and integration. Not an STS thing, just a totally human distortion.

Even though Ghandi was probably STO...could somebody live a life that looks much like his and act in a seemingly STO fashion but actually be STS? Definitely. Not everything is what it seems on the surface. Look at Alesiter Crowley for example, while the subject has been mentioned. His life and outward actions appeared, and in many cases simply were of an STS nature. Somehow though, his soul was STO. A big part was drug use turning his energy field into swiss cheese-he went though some bad health and was treated with heroine(for those that don't know it wasn't always a street drug, it was a pharmaceutical invention that's pretty much the precursor to all modern opiates that are still messing people up and back then was often prescribed). He became hooked on the drugs, and this combined with gratuitous blundering with sex and ritual magic and summoning demons and it's easy to see how he got to a point where he was "no longer in control of his own actions"

I think the point is, it's hard to "judge a book by its cover" just looking at the outward flow of somebody's incarnation, especially if you are looking at some historical figure from a larger-than life, "angels and demons" sort of perspective. I think when we just see these people as human we can get a lot closer to really understanding them.

[Aion]

...the more ya know!

The hardcore version is to 'stick it in' and then use your sphincter in the reverse way as you would do when taking a crap. But don't ejaculate.
The softcore version is taking a bath in the same water, that was used by a virgin before you. But don't submerge your head.
It's all sex-magick 101. Fraternitas Saturni, lower (?) grades O.T.O stuff, basically. The things Aleister Crowley would do when visiting a brothel...
No, I don't have tried it out.  

The first form I'm familiar with, a type of karezza, the second is a method you see in a variety of forms. Softcore, unless you're Elizabeth Bathory I suppose.

I also don't really think that's the sort of thing Ghandi was doing though. What he was doing seems more reflective of extreme asceticism than any kind of vampirism. I think it's more likely he sought to control his human nature by any means necessary.

[Sacred Fool]

  
If you take the trouble to go beyond hearsay and actually read the guy's autobiography, you'll get far more insight into his orientation.  Otherwise, you might be just shooting in the dark.

80.10 ▶ Questioner: Now, the fifteenth archetype, which is the Matrix of the Spirit, has been called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so?

Ra: I am Ra. We do not wish to be facile in such a central query, but we may note that the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle that the fructifying influence of light upon the great darkness of the spirit is very often not as apparent as the darkness itself. The progress chosen by many adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the Catalyst of the Spirit. Few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the sun. By far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery. Therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a negative and evil, as you would call it, nature.

It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the nature is often not.