06-23-2022, 04:41 PM
(06-23-2022, 03:19 PM)Spiritualchaos Wrote: I am concerned about the spiritual movement because I came here to help with it. I can feel the pain people are feeling, I can physically see it manifesting itself everywhere I go. I talk to people all the time in my neighborhood who are not sleeping, who are suffering from debilitating physical health problems, who are concerned about mental health issues and have endless money troubles. We are here as system busters during the harvest, as the old system needs to change in order to make room for fourth density life. People have free will, but they are also gullible and being unfairly misled by people preying on them when they are the most vulnerable. You can say, oh whatever, let them screw themselves over and learn from it. But that is not how it's going to go, because I can feel the energy of this planet right now and it is struggling. I do no think people are just going to "learn a lesson" and move on. I think it could potentially break their spirit, make spirituality and growth of consciousness feel like just another manipulation in a world already plagued with enough forms of unconscious slavery that it "beggars our ability to enumerate them." I'm sure your remember that quote from the ever-so-wise Ra.
Right now, what people need, is a break. They need love. They need honesty. They do not need to be further manipulated, even by sources that on the outside seem like they have their student's best interest at heart, when really they are just looking out for themselves and their own well being. How can we live the Law of One if we do not see all as One?
I feel a little bad not reading some of the responses here, I read every response on some threads but there is quite a lot of substance that goes into a single thread. To read a few of these threads every word would take about an hour.
Firstly, even though I am going to write in relation to your main post the quoted text I think is beautiful and it is something that I have been thinking of a lot recently. There was a bible quote I remember about a series of kingdoms and some people think we are in the last one, the age of iron where there is "never ceasing fear", I think that describes it quite well. Even though I do not completely get behind it philosophically as I will come to, I have been noticing a large amount of suffering recently. There are plenty of statistics that back up that almost everyone is suffering at the moment I think!
Secondly, don't hold David Wilcock up as a role model. He may have been that once, but after all the trauma he has been through he is a shattered person now. Sorry to be blunt. I am not what I consider to be a "shattered person" but I still feel David reflects something quite poignant back to me. There is a bit of life force I have lost in all this chaos.
My take on this actually goes in a different direction. There is something in game theory called 'The Free Rider problem'. Where if too much is taken out of a communal resource it can no longer exist.
You see it with a lot of things. A dream interpretation forum, an astrology forum. When I was on the human design chart reddit it was chronic. To have a discussion on human design, I think, to have a discussion on more than the basics it would have to bar the discussion of the absolute basics i.e. 'Chart reading'. So there was a rule that goes up on the forum that any question that is 'can you read my chart' will be taken down and the people could repost in a thread dedicated to that.
I did that, I put in a lot of time and I just loved the chart so much I loved talking about it so I basically posted on any chart that came into that thread.
Now in any basic friendship, relationship, or interaction I think there would be an expectation of some sort of trad. Rather like you posting here. Even though perhaps you could shrug it off if people did not take much interest in this post. If it happened consistently you may end up feeling you were being snubbed by this group. Not getting anything back, and therefore might feel that you had been "forced to move on". So there is an energy exchange even in service. Perhaps in some cases when the person has done well a lot can be given for free, but there is a dependence on some energy coming back.
Well, on the human design chart reddit, I did not get anything back. I did a few posts for people and did not even get a 'like' back. Several paragraphs for each, and I just started thinking "You know what, I'm not feeling this" and I left. I only came back briefly to that subreddit and I didn't go back on the chart reading thread.
But even further than that, I mentioned that the subreddit didn't like people asking for readings. But there was a way they sometimes let them through which was if the person kind of didn't directly say it. They just said something like I am confused about this part of my chart or something. Then they would be let through and when people caught onto that they all did it. Page after page was 'Oh yay, I got this chart and I don't know what it means'.
But here's the rub. The people on this subreddit were not without resources. Pretty much all the human design information has now filtered out onto the internet. You can go on youtube and start with your type and a basic explanation of the centres and you will begin to understand the chart yourself. But people don't want to do that do you know why? Well I don't I have never resorted to whining and asking others to give their personal energy to explain things like that. They remind me of that clip where Homer Simpson sees a guy on a ventilator and gets angry that he is using his own lungs to breathe, when he could have a machine do it for him.
This is the problem living in the real world and offering services. The 'Free rider' problem. Although I think the term more easily recognised is 'freeloader'. If you give anything or have low prices or whatever it is people will take as much as they can.
And also let's take another look at those people? All those people that do that kind of thing. Are they completely innocent of the troubles they now face? In some cases it often seems so but when people do crappy things in their past do they tell you? How many of them are just brainless vampires like the people posting on that subreddit? How many of them have lied to trap someone in a bad relationship? Or chronically neglected their children due to alcohol, or a job they didn't need to be spending all their time at? How many of them will even make the barest of compromises and will reach out to the spirits for help like Quo advises? I have known so many proud atheists will really severe mental disorders.
So that's why the new age community is as it is. Because the service has to be conducted under rules, and those rules in this case are "trade".
Another angle is that perhaps the ones that can't monetise it = Don't monetise it. I love the human design chart. But I don't get the feeling that being a human design reader is what my chart advises! The human design chart, in my belief, is a system that is so profound, that no one and especially not it's founder - first channeler, really understood it. It is beyond our scope and a lot of the basic teaching that gets people through the door is only very basically correct. So does someone that really believes in the human design always go and be a reader and charge for their services? And of those who decide not to, who have a different view and would explain it to others if given the chance maybe, for free, but don't have the chance to. What benefit is it to them to do human design chart reading if they get more money in an office job?
So that's what I think. The current new age movement is a manifestation on living on a messed up planet. And the money, and narcissism aspect are the symptom and not the cause!