01-31-2019, 12:38 PM
(10-25-2018, 09:17 AM)Rolci Wrote:(10-25-2018, 02:12 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: How do you feel, and what is your thoughts like and centered around while doing the dishes?
How do you feel when just thinking about doing the dishes?
Do you do any other cleaning? Any adversion to these other types of cleaning if so?
Go back as far as you can and see if you can find a memory that may be associated with this.
No negative feelings, just something that needs doing, same as I would be doing it for myself if I were alone. While I'm doing it I think about doing it properly and conscientiously. Maybe I concentrate too much?
I do not think about doing dishes when I'm not doing dishes. Could be an idea to visualise doing it for 10 minutes, but I'm guessing I would still be aware that it's just a visualisation so I don't think it would do anything for me.
I do the hoovering in the house, sometimes once a week, sometimes twice, sometimes fortnightly, according to need. I have the same concentration on doing it properly and conscientiously exactly as with washing up but I never get any physical symptoms in spite of (I assume) more dust in the air. I do have a mindset of trying to finish as quick as possible in both cases but not at the expense of a job done perfectly. They are not things I enjoy but just do because I see them as things that need doing but would rather do something else, so both kind of like a mental burden, but also I do appreciate doing something with immediate visible results that makes a difference, so a dual mental attitude there. But the point is that washing up causes something that nothing else does, not hoovering, not gardening, not making crepes, not anything else.
Memorywise I believe I have shared here all that I could remember and find relevant. I do not believe I ever had the symptoms in the old days, probably only after marriage, between about 5 and 10 years ago, but then I do not recall doing it a lot before, my mum used to do it before.
One thing to mention is that I am tall, over 6 feet, and kitchen sinks are low and I have always found doing dishes giving me back pain but then vacuum cleaners also have handle so that's awkward too for me. Gardening involves a lot of bending too.
Another thing that comes to mind is that washing up, as opposed to hoovering and gardening, is a chore done while being stationary, standing still in one place, which I do not tolerate well physically. If I am given the "job" of standing in one place without much movement I will develop pain in my stomach after 15-20 minutes and will get dizzy after about 30. No symptoms if I can walk, in fact I can walk 5-10 miles with easy, possibly much more, without the need for eating, drinking or toilet, even in high heat on very hot summer days. And I do sit down when making crepes and read while they're frying, no way I could stand there for an hour or just stare at the wall. I always feel like I need to be doing something otherwise time's a'wasting. Sitting in the sun or relaxing in bed count as something as they're things that "achieve" something.
And as for the nose itches I mentioned in my first post, I get INSANE nose itches when having heated arguments when there is a clash of opinions, where I am confronted by someone who, when given a logical argument, will not accept it and I am forced to find all sorts of analogies to help them see and I get frustrated and annoyed. I never tried seeing if it would go away after a while after walking away from an argument, the itch is too unbearable on the tip of my nose, no amount of itching or rubbing against the carpet helps, only lying down and closing my eyes.
I am not sure how relevant these last three things might be, but those would be my answers to your questions and anything else I considered even remotely relevant. Thanks for trying to help me understand.
I realize this is late and may not be important any more but I think in this post it may have shon light on your issue.
Not being able to peacefully except and other fully. Be it their germs on the fork or food(now only a subconscious nonacceptance) or their unwillingness to accept your truth in a conflict of opinion.
Both are as the thorn in your side which causes you to not see a unity/acceptance whether it be physical germs, or mental constructs.
That is just what stuck out to me, so take it or leave it but perhaps trying to make this conflict more conscious will release some physical manifestation symptoms if it is the root of the issue.
I hope you are well