(11-15-2017, 12:15 AM)Steppingfeet Wrote: Agreed with U100 that an initiated body would harbor more presence. Though where in the Law of One did you pick up the idea that the mind is a projection of spirit?
That's a good question. There is no direct quote in the material which says Mind is a creation of the spirit as far as i know. So we cant say for certainty that mind is a creation of spirit. However, it follows through hierarchical flow of creation to be a relation like this. Everything must expand and separate from a singular source, only to merge towards that original union following the same route back. However, its a bit difficult to apply this feature of creation directly. What we have is a bit complicated:
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=105#16
above, mbs or mbs complexes dont need a physical vehicle to exist. So without a physical vehicle, they exist. The body part of the mbs or mbs complex does not need to be physical.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=16#59
above, as we can see from the situation of wanderers in 3d, the only thing that defines a wanderer is spirit. So, despite the mind complex and body complex greatly changes depending on the incarnation, spirit complex doesnt. This seems to signify that spirit is the defining factor in an entity.
We know that archetypal mind changes, from logos to logos even. It is this mind that creates the body, according to realities and nature of the particular focus (logos, or the planet).
What we dont know is that whether the existence of mbs and mbs complexes' mind, body and spirit parts come to being at the same time and coexist at the same time.
But even in this case, then it may be easy to say that even if they exist at the same time in creation, the spirit may be effecting/creating the nature of the mind, just as mind creates and affects the nature of the physical body vehicle.
Quote:Also, Unity100, Ra indicates that the mind and the body must first be balanced (and presumably initiated to some degree) do the subtle work of the spirit complex, the shuttle to intelligent infinity. That is the work that centers around the indigo ray or gateway, accessed (in a reliable way) only insofar as body/mind are initiated, balanced, and pointed in service.
But spiritual work, manifesting and channeling the energy upwards is a bit opposite of the flow we were talking in that context. If spirit projected the mind and then mind projected the spirit, this could be considered a flow in one direction, and then the energy channeled upwards would be considered the other direction. Though not precisely applicable since during the creation of the body complex naturally the energy flowing upward would be used, ie living and activities during that living.
However, in the below quotes you supplied we find a critical point relevant to the topic:
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6.1 The third area is the spiritual complex which embodies the fields of force and consciousness which are the least distorted of your mind/body/spirit complex. The exploration and balancing of the spirit complex is indeed the longest and most subtle part of your learn/teaching. We have considered the mind as a tree. The mind controls the body. With the mind single-pointed, balanced, and aware, the body comfortable in whatever biases and distortions make it appropriately balanced for that instrument, the instrument is then ready to proceed with the great work.
We are told that all parts of the m/b/s complex house consciousness, and the least distorted part is in the spiritual complex.
This clears some issues about whether spirit complex being able to create and mind potentially being its creation. If spirit complex houses consciousness, it means it can create since consciousness is necessary for creation.
Quote:That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then the spirit can become a functioning shuttle or communicator from the entity’s individual energy of will upwards, and from the streamings of the creative fire and wind downwards.
49.2 These experiences are the beginnings of that which, as the body, the mind, and the spirit become integrated at the gateway, or indigo, level, may then yield not only the experience of joy but the comprehension of intelligent infinity which accompanies it. Thus the body complex orgasm and mind complex orgasm becoming integrated may then set forth the proper gateway for the spiritual complex integration and its use as a shuttle for the sacrament of the fully experienced presence of the One Infinite Creator.
These bits are about spiritual work involving all elements of mbs complex, and is not directly relevant to the conceptual insight about mind potentially being a creation of spirit.
Even if mind is a creation of spirit, its not like spirit and its biases can be changed easily in a lifetime, and spirit will still be the part from which mind draws its strength from and manifests its activities.
To put into practical terms regarding doing spiritual work for accessing intelligent infinity, what would be important to do in any case would be for the entity to use its mind to channel its spirit, its energy, its biases and its desires to the physical world, using the body when applicable. Naturally, things or desires or situations which are not possible to manifest in this physical reality would not be possible to create in this reality using the body. But for anything that the body can be a vehicle for, can be done. Anything that cannot be created in physical reality must be imagined.