Well this Q'uo'te is the final nail in the coffin of 3rd density on this planet for myself. I am now over 99% certain of my beliefs in "gradual vs abrupt" and don't feel right discussing it anymore because I am now fully biased towards my views.
I have no problem with those individuals who still believe in the concept of a gradual harvest.
However, with that being said, I do not wish to discuss/debate anything about this particular concept of abrupt/gradual any longer(due to my bias). Although, I will gladly welcome discussion/debate on anything not related to this and will also gladly welcome discussion having to do with the oncoming 4th Density (although not in this thread, as I feel it would be inappropriate). Another reason I do not want to discuss this further(after this post) is it has become a major stumbling block in my life for the past 10 months; as I was hovering between 70-95% certainty of abruptness, which is not sufficient to my largely scientifically/intellectually oriented mind which demands 99% certainty in order to form a clear opinion of anything.
This selected Q'uo'te also supports(in the second paragraph) the concept of being able to switch to 4D subjectively.
P.S. I received a right ear tone just moments ago when I was composing the above sentence(s) about my bias towards this subject, so I will take that as a confirmation that stating this bias is 'good' thing to do.
Further info directly related to this quote which address the caveat's of those who think this information too specific for Q'uo to channel it(from the same session):
I have no problem with those individuals who still believe in the concept of a gradual harvest.
However, with that being said, I do not wish to discuss/debate anything about this particular concept of abrupt/gradual any longer(due to my bias). Although, I will gladly welcome discussion/debate on anything not related to this and will also gladly welcome discussion having to do with the oncoming 4th Density (although not in this thread, as I feel it would be inappropriate). Another reason I do not want to discuss this further(after this post) is it has become a major stumbling block in my life for the past 10 months; as I was hovering between 70-95% certainty of abruptness, which is not sufficient to my largely scientifically/intellectually oriented mind which demands 99% certainty in order to form a clear opinion of anything.
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is...10_04.aspx Q'uo Wrote:We realize that it is difficult to imagine what shall happen after the year 2012, since that is when third density ends and fourth density begins. And we can only describe to you that which is to occur by asking you to realize that all of the densities of Planet Earth within this octave, one through seven, are nested together and interpenetrate each other, much as the various channels on your television set are nested together, being picked up by the same transmitters and receivers and being available by the turn of the knob from one to another to another.
Indeed, there are those among your peoples who are able to switch from the channel of third density to the channel of fourth density now, and who can somewhat reliably report on the development of fourth density. Fourth density, indeed, is fully formed at this time. Because it would violate the free will of third-density entities, fourth density chooses not to be seen, not to be visible to the five senses of your human bodies. Yet it is impossible to eliminate or hide the vibrations of fourth density, which are interpenetrating third density at this time.
This selected Q'uo'te also supports(in the second paragraph) the concept of being able to switch to 4D subjectively.
P.S. I received a right ear tone just moments ago when I was composing the above sentence(s) about my bias towards this subject, so I will take that as a confirmation that stating this bias is 'good' thing to do.
Further info directly related to this quote which address the caveat's of those who think this information too specific for Q'uo to channel it(from the same session):
Quote:N: Q’uo, with respect to your giving us the date of 2012, is this not considered as specific information? Would this not violate the law of free will?
Quote:We are those of Q’uo, and believe we understand your query, my brother. Were there to be no other source of information concerning this date, there might indeed be a concern on our part regarding offering such information as the precise date of the turning of the wheel for your planet from third density to fourth.
However, as it happens, the longstanding and widely respected work of astrologers upon your planet has for many of your centuries offered this date as that in which in one age, the Age of Pisces, turns to another age, the Age of Aquarius. There is also, as you are aware in this group for you have discussed it, the calendar of the Mayans, which also points to this date as the time when the central sun lines up in just a certain way with Planet Earth and the Sun, so that there starts a new Day at that time and the old Day is ended. Further than that, there are other sources, which have targeted this particular time as that time at which there is a shift in consciousness. Therefore, we have long confirmed these suppositions of those who came to us and questioned us as to the centrality of this date.