08-29-2012, 11:07 AM
Wow, Huntress, excellent post #80! Thank you very much for expanding upon your OP in such clarity and detail, as it does change (expand) my perception of your original premise immensely. I read it several times and see your point now, when viewed through a more cosmic perspective. I do feel that one can understand things from a non-dualistic, or macrocosmic, perspective but that simultaneously the practical aspects of 3D limitation and skillful navigation of this density through Choice should not be ignored. Holding a dual, macrocosmic/microcosmic vision is something that I - and I suspect many others - do as well, but I've never seen it articulated quite so well before.
I think this conversation is one that we really needed to have as a community. Even if there is still some disagreement and varied perspectives, this thread is absolutely packed with thoughtful and well-written posts that expound on several important, interrelated concepts. I am certain that each of us will find and take away what we most need from the conversation, and we will all be the greater for having considered these topics so thoroughly. I am deeply grateful to Huntress for sparking the dialogue, and also to everyone that contributed so much here.
Patrick - Of course you are completely right about the function of STS to show us that which we are not, thanks for the reminder. The Elite, in my view, are to be understood and forgiven, not hated or feared. Forgiveness has always seemed to me to be the very best possible response to them, not simply pretending they don't exist. However, forgiveness of their manipulation and even appreciation for their Service is NOT mutually exclusive with firmly refusing their offer of continued Service. At this stage of the game, since we know they are here and what they are doing -- I think we would all do well to remain AWARE. They should not be allowed to continue misleading and distracting us, and simple awareness dissolves their power. The earth is transforming into a positive 4D place, and their fearful and malevolent methods and manipulations no longer have a place here. For me, part of ushering in that transition..."Bringing 4th" if you will... is firmly, yet lovingly, refusing their Service and remaining aware and vigilent of any attempts to distract me from my Path. I am trying to take responsibility for my own thoughts and emotions, and a key aspect of that is sifting through my consciousness and removing any "poison thought forms" planted there by external influences. I am also trying to question all of my beliefs, even ones derived from the Ra Material or New Age thought in general, that's all.
In a nutshell, I say "Question everything... but love Everyone."
Love to All
I think this conversation is one that we really needed to have as a community. Even if there is still some disagreement and varied perspectives, this thread is absolutely packed with thoughtful and well-written posts that expound on several important, interrelated concepts. I am certain that each of us will find and take away what we most need from the conversation, and we will all be the greater for having considered these topics so thoroughly. I am deeply grateful to Huntress for sparking the dialogue, and also to everyone that contributed so much here.
Patrick - Of course you are completely right about the function of STS to show us that which we are not, thanks for the reminder. The Elite, in my view, are to be understood and forgiven, not hated or feared. Forgiveness has always seemed to me to be the very best possible response to them, not simply pretending they don't exist. However, forgiveness of their manipulation and even appreciation for their Service is NOT mutually exclusive with firmly refusing their offer of continued Service. At this stage of the game, since we know they are here and what they are doing -- I think we would all do well to remain AWARE. They should not be allowed to continue misleading and distracting us, and simple awareness dissolves their power. The earth is transforming into a positive 4D place, and their fearful and malevolent methods and manipulations no longer have a place here. For me, part of ushering in that transition..."Bringing 4th" if you will... is firmly, yet lovingly, refusing their Service and remaining aware and vigilent of any attempts to distract me from my Path. I am trying to take responsibility for my own thoughts and emotions, and a key aspect of that is sifting through my consciousness and removing any "poison thought forms" planted there by external influences. I am also trying to question all of my beliefs, even ones derived from the Ra Material or New Age thought in general, that's all.
In a nutshell, I say "Question everything... but love Everyone."
Love to All