Am I alone in my view of the dark?

[Pablísimo]

Thanks for your thoughtful responses. Before I reply, I'd like to clarify that in that post (and this one) I am not in any way trying to make any hidden points about the rightness or wrongness of a person's dietary choice. I absolutely give you my word that I am discussing this topic right now only in terms of 3D to 3D interactions. 3D->2D interactions are worthy of serious thought for any Law of One student as well, but I think those facets of the conversation have already been covered in other places ad nauseum. I've had some general revelations of late that I've found helpful, and this seemed like a very appropriate conversation to share as it speaks to the OP. Honestly, I have no other agenda.

...Wouldn't a philosophy that legitimizes the dark Path, teaches that something is only "evil" or "wrong" because we "perceive it that way", urges total non-judgement of any act no matter how heinous, and encourages absolute acceptance of everything "as it is"...

Like the Ra material you mean ?

Yes, exactly like the Ra Material. Even though it has been the most enlightening spiritual information I have yet found, I see great value in asking myself difficult questions about it. I think it is healthy to question anything we accept as a "given", as "truth", and I am trying to consider the wider practical implications of such a philosophy. It is only after studying the Ra Material for several years and observing the effects of it upon a wide range of people that these questions even occurred to me! For some, appreciating Oneness seems to go right along with becoming unmoored from their moral compass, and I cannot help but wonder if that could be part of a wider agenda that does not have our best interests at heart. I have also perceived (subjectively of course) that many people most resonate with the "wanderer" concept and focus on that aspect as a way to negate the 3D work in Choice, in Polarity that must be done by everyone in this Density. It's as if the combination of vivid descriptions of how things work in higher densities, combined with awareness that some souls originate in those higher densities leads some to conclude that they should forego 3D work and live as if they already are in a higher density. In my view, that is a mistaken approach: Just imagine a person going through the lessons of 5D trying to act as if they were really in 6D. They would likely miss the point of the lessons right in front of them! Hmm.....would that serve a certain agenda?

Personally, I don't think the Ra Material actually does legitimize the Dark Path nor teach moral relativism; I actually think other new age sources and channels are promoting these ethics-neutral ideas, and that the influence of these other sources tend to color many folks' interpretations of the Ra Material. Bashar has to be the biggest example -- I cannot count the number of times I have seen a direct Bashar quote or understanding presented as originating with Ra, though of course there are many others. I don't claim to have definitive answers about anything, but I think it is well to consider these other, uncomfortable possibilities.

What the Law of One actually legitimizes is The Choice. Do not forget that STS continues to make this choice after 3d, after the veil is removed. It's not based on ignorance. Only the negative acts of the undecided would be based on ignorance and as long as you do negativity based on ignorance you will stay in 3d simply because you have not truly made The Choice yet.

Well, I am speaking in a 3D context here, and my personal understanding is that any 3D being who chooses to perform an act that violates the free will of another does so out of ignorance of our Oneness. You're right to point out there is awareness in higher densities, but again we are right here and right now in 3D.

Let's consider choices and judgement. Is it possible to choose AT ALL without some form of judgement? In my opinion, in order to make a choice one must make a judgement. Which is more appropriate and which is less so? In order to make "THE CHOICE", one has to make many, many judgements. 3D polarization is a constant process of choosing thoughts, words, and deeds that you judge to be "good", and choosing to refrain from thoughts, words, and deeds that you judge to be "bad". Of course we should let go of judgement of other-selves. We have no right to judge eachother. Who in 3D can really know what is in the heart of other-selves? Who has all the context, who knows the intent? And yet.... despite the fact that non-judgement of other people makes perfect sense, non-judgement of ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING does not... at least, not while incarnated in this density. How can one even utilize discernment if nothing is ever judged to be better or worse than another thing?

This is The Choice each have. But IMHO if all became aware of this philosophy of non judgment, there would quickly be nearly no negativity left on this planet. The Elites would have no more grasps on the people. Incidentally, I believe this is what is happening now and for the next couple centuries.

I understand this perspective, but unfortunately do not agree with it. I think a 3D world where "Good men do nothing" and absolutely ALL ACTS, without exception, are considered to be acceptable and OK, would very much give the Elites a free hand. Have you studied "psycopathy" at all per chance? If not, it may expand your viewpoint somewhat.

This attitude honors you. I do my best to do the same, except for this part "rejecting their right to violent acts towards other-selves". I believe it impossible for any selves to be a victim without accepting this first via free will. That said, I am unable to understand why anyone would want to experience or promote negativity. But this density is not a density of knowing.

That's a good point. None of us really know. Understanding is not of this density, and I could be completely wrong about all of it. I'm all for having a good laugh when the veil is lifted and we have some answers

I do not believe there are any neutral acts. Discernment is indeed key.

Indeed. But is discernment possible without judging anything?

Aren't there ways to work for positive change without opposing evil ?

I think there are, yes. However I believe the world is changing and transforming into a very positive 4D place. Part of that transition is going to be designing new systems and ways of governing ourselves. I want greater freedom and autonomy for everyone... but I absolutely oppose acts that violate the free will of others. If a person consciously agrees to be raped or murdered, then that's acceptable, but I'm not going to make any assumptions about any supposed agreements made between higher selves. While in 3D, unless there is conscious agreement, I oppose any act that violates the free will of another. So, I'm sorry, but I will be raising my hand in favor of outlawing murder and rape without consent in the new world...

...I will follow the Light I perceive, even if that means I will sometimes "judge" a word or deed as "wrong".

Will you judge this as being wrong for you or will you judge it to be wrong for them too ? In other words, will you decide for your Self that you do not want to align with what you judged to be wrong or will you also try to impose this judgment unto other-selves ?

I don't need to impose my opinions or judgements on other selves. It doesn't matter to me if others disagree with me with about anything. I don't need to control the thoughts of others, but as long as we are in 3D I believe we do need a very basic set of guidelines to help us live together harmoniously. Not a dogmatic set of Commandments or a system that does not respect the uniqueness of each and every situations. And again, I'm not speaking about food here as there is a difference of opinion about what constitutes an other-self. In the 3D realm, I say let people do anything and everything - do WHATEVER they want as long as it does not infringe on anyone else. The "guidelines" can be that simple. Does it infringe on the conscious free will of an other-self? If so, then it's not acceptable. Everything else is perfectly fine.

If believing the rights of others must be respected puts me at odds with New Age thought, then so be it. I guess I'm just a rebel

Love to you as well my friend.

My perception of you is that you consistently speak from the heart in a balanced way. Whether I agree with all your views or not, I sure do appreciate your unique and loving vibration. Thank you for sharing your perspectives with me. Namaste!

Love to all

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This is a great thread with a lot to absorb, yet the surety in many words here is hard to get over at times. I wonder how it is people can be so sure that they alone have the answer to the what stands as the most complicated philosophical issue that faces our particular plane of existence?

I agree with every bit of this! Possibly the passionate views of this matter are causing us to forget humility & humbleness? Perhaps this is a misperception on my part, as you said. Encouraging us all to speak from an open heart.

Well said to the both of you!! I think it is extremely important for us all to remain humble, but I think in these interactions we are teaching eachother open hearted and open-minded communication.

This is not the density of understanding and no'one has all the answers or can be 100% certain of their correctness. All we can do is share our ideas and opinions, but no'one is an authority. Any or all of us may be completely wrong, after all. In my experience the very moment in which one claims enlightenment is the very same moment in which one proves their ignorance.

Here is one of my favorite Ra quotes:

16.39 Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

Love to All