08-25-2012, 10:05 AM
(08-25-2012, 08:10 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Cyan has stated :
"Murder is of the Madre (That which reacts) and if you cant love it, you arent ready to ascend to the 4th (what do you think it feels like to your self when you take off the mask of ego and reveal to the self the soul within)
AScension is murder of the self," UNQUOTE
I say that if you choose to love murder, that you do not understand the true meaning of self. That would be the reason one would not ascend.
Knowing the true self is realizing that there is no self to murder. It is not understanding true self that results in the consequences of murder.
I choose to try to define murder in a way that a definition of it can be loved, and then slowly from that one narrow definition striving to broaden my acceptence of it by learning to love the situations where i see it happening AND/IF in such situations love from a another viewpoint is available that i would consider fitting here. Eventually i'll reach a point where i say that this i refuse to love. But it wont be because of an arbitary verbal tag without any moral complexity, grounding or depth as "murder" (meat is murder ya'll)
But rather, it will be defined by what i consider morally accetable to me as a individual in this individuated intelligence.
And to me, murder is beautiful, because the division of it into aspects helps me better define myself as a entity. What is my opinion of when it would be proper to force the end to someones incarnation. IF we are all in heaven right now and incarnation is the belief that you are not in heaven and you are doing something to seriously harm or damage yourself. Then murder, that is, the temporary removal of the self by force to prevent further harm in "time".
There is one good reason for murder that i can think of. And it is the murder of the belief in the self as a creature that requires suffering.
That is to say, murder is only applicable, like all things, by the self to the self. And only applicable when the self feels the need to speak to the self, and then if all other attempts are ignored, death is caused by physical stimulation (getting a knife in the stomach helps for the most determined individuals, getting a pinch and being told you died works for kids)
Therefore, murder is beautiful because it ends a cycle of not listening to the self by the only availability left to the self, forced reincarnation by intervention from another self as per the request of the self that is, in actuality, all that is.
To end my post:
Do you think the logos would create something that is not beautiful in some light, even if that light is not yours in the now?
IT might not be beautiful in yours now, it might not be beautiful in yours ever, or it might be only beautiful partially in yours, but dont say that it isnt beautiful, just acknowledge its beauty with calm detachment of will (the one time when such detachment of will, i feel, is appropriate, acknowledging something that exists as a catalyst but is calmly refused) and move on.
Edit: being less than perfect this is to say nothing of how well I actually succeed in my goal as opposed to creatures that have millions of years of personal emotional experience to rely on.