08-24-2012, 07:51 AM
(08-24-2012, 06:33 AM)Ankh Wrote:And yet their entire life's programming is related to raising planetary vibrations in accordance with this goal. The dispositions are there, the questions one asks, the virtues one cultivates, the way others are treated by example are really the important things with regards to that presence and what needs balancing here.(08-23-2012, 09:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote: I'd say the mission of their wanderers is already teach/learning according to what needs balancing, probably infinitely more effective than the premise suggested by Don's hypothetical question.
Currently, I don't agree with you on this. Wanderers become completely creatures of third density in mind/body complexes and subjects to the veil of forgetting, third density rules and free will when incarnating as third density entities. This means that they have to wake up, start serious seeking, and retrieve their memory of why the heck they came here and what their "mission" is.
(08-24-2012, 06:33 AM)Ankh Wrote: God knows how many tries there has been before to have "Ra contact" before it finally succeeded in 80's.But that has so little importance with respect to participation that it's almost irrelevant.
(08-24-2012, 06:33 AM)Ankh Wrote: Even an *angellically* positive entity like Nikola Tesla didn't completely succeed with his "mission" so to speak.Sometimes the seeming ideal is not what is needed. Not achieving complete success is not lack of success.
(08-24-2012, 06:33 AM)Ankh Wrote: And think of those two 5D wanderers who incarnated on Venus and how far they came from the mission they actually planned; the results were opposite. Currenty I am more inclined to think in unity100's lines in this post about difficulties of wanderers when incarnating here and difficulties to penetrate the veil.Results were opposite, in part, due to the huge lack of balance on Venus creating conditions where people became desperate to correct it. There was lack of opportunity there for such balancing, and the 'solution' did not take into consideration the deep-seated culture. This balancing was not successful in their 3rd density, but eventually in 5th.
(08-24-2012, 06:33 AM)Ankh Wrote: Under normal (more harmonious than bellicose) third density conditions and circumstances it is much much more effective to teach/learn by coming/landing directly upon the physical planes and show by example etc etc. However, this has been learned to not to work on Gaia. I get that. Egypt and what happened there isn't the only place where it learned to be impractical. The whole Confederation tried this and that and whatnot else in different places, and nothing is working upon this planet... But coming as a Wanderer isn't effective either, in my current opinion. Less than 10% penetrate their status intelligently and what was it, only to the half of those 10% the information like Ra material makes sense? Not speaking of Ra material (in my humble understanding which I know to be different from many many others) being the only source from Confederation which is not distorted and infected.To me there's a lack of dignity in relying on outside assistance to balance things, as by so doing one necessarily can offer less uniqueness and creativity. It does impact free will choices and to that extent offers opportunities for the 'crusaders' to assist.
Ra responds to a calling and they are probably more effective in responding to those calling than interceding in our affairs in more down-to-earth methods. Remember, there are people that are *not* calling and so can not receive information even if they are capable of processing it. Majority rules here. You can only offer opportunities for them to learn and that is only the responsibility for those who are capable.