01-18-2010, 02:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2010, 03:14 PM by Sacred Fool.)
(01-15-2010, 01:47 PM)Peregrinus Wrote:(01-15-2010, 05:25 AM)peregrine Wrote: At what point (or line or plane) do "reality" and Divine Consciousness intersect and appear the same?P. Wrote:Our consciousness is divine, for we are of the One Creator. There is no intersection that of which you speak, for all that is is of divinity. You may only perceive that as not so because of the veil, for each perceives according to the first distortion of the LOO, their own free will. What I choose to perceive due to the veil will not be what you perceive due to the veil.Granted.
However, for those who would seek to be conscious both of "reality" as it appears behind the veil and some form of greater consciousness, these intersections are not unimportant. In fact, they can be significant places of refuge in this stormy undertaking, in my experience. Being in tune with sacred spaces or lineages could be two examples.
(01-15-2010, 05:25 AM)peregrine Wrote: Indeed, but such a dark road it is to travel, no?P. Wrote:Was Christ's road dark? Was Mother Theresa's? Gandhi's? Do you mean negative as opposed to positive? I see light in the darkness and darkness in the light, and all is of the One Creator.Yes, indeed, his road was darkened, as were theirs. I don't mean evil, but simply that the path is not lit externally except by illusion. This is what makes the element of choice so potent in this environment. In order to find the Light, you must find it within your own being...as amusing as that may be at times.
Aside: if you see too much light in the dark and dark in the light, you'll lose the capacity to read this text. Definition is not for nothing.
(01-15-2010, 05:25 AM)peregrine Wrote: Interesting that the emphasis is placed upon service. Perhaps this speaks to the ego query? But how does one understand true service as compared with wishful desiring? How does one discern the "Truth" of one's own intentions? Talk about a fun house, eh?P. Wrote:Being a wanderer, I have already chosen my desire to be of service to others, and in being so, I cannot choose service to self. I will not.This last bit is abundantly clear, my friend.
In truth there is no right or wrong. As long as the intention is pure, so is the truth.
Fun house? If that is your perception, it is so. I see it with my perception, and take such thoughts seriously.
"Fun house" is an allusion to to the Ra (or Q'uo...I forget) House of Mirrors analogy where we see ourselves oddly reflected at each turn by those around us as though they are distorted reflections of self.
Anyhow, in my experience, the matter of awareness of one's intentions is an excruciatingly important one. The pain of regret for folly is some of the most personal I've ever felt.
As far as Wanderers being committed to always wearing white hats, as it were, some of us have spent much time exploring the other side of street in order to learn to balance these and balance wisdom with love. And, going back to points above, it's not always clear which side of the street one is on at any given time, the path being darkened (as opposed to Dark, shall we say).
Quote:Ra: If the mind knows itself then the most important aspect of healing has occurred. Consciousness is the microcosm of the Law of One.(01-15-2010, 05:25 AM)peregrine Wrote: What does this mean?P. Wrote:I shall leave this question for you to ponder, though if you seek you shall find. One hint: look inward.Okay.
Quote: Peregrinus: The healer actually only provides the energy, and the higher self of the mbs complex being healed accepts the energy.peregrine Wrote:...sounds quite natural, does it not?P. Wrote:...as natural as breathing... as natural as being born or dying in this illusion... all is natural, all is possible, all is infinite. Our limitation is the mind. Perceive farther than the mind, and the limitations are removed.Indeed.
Quote:Ra: One item which may be of interest is that a healer asking to learn must take the distortion understood as responsibility for that ask/receiving. This is an honor/duty which must be carefully considered in free will before the asking.(01-15-2010, 05:25 AM)peregrine Wrote: How do you understand this responsibility?P. Wrote:I understand that each mind/body/spirit complex has a body which the higher self and the self programmed the life for, so as to learn the lessons which were sought to be learned. Offering a change by being a source of energy is all one can do, for ultimately it is up to the higher self of that mind/body/spirit complex being healed to make the decision. In this way, free will is not breached, and yet to find those which have the desire to be healed, and the faith, is where the responsibility lies. Randomly trying to offer healing is like offering water to those that may or may not be thirsty. When someone exhibits thirst, and only then, should the water be offered.I read it differently. I see it as referring to the Law of Responsibility where there are blow-back consequences for asking for an ability (like healing) and intending to use it in service to the Creator, but then not following through on this.
I'm just bringing this up because I use such considerations to keep a lid on my own arrogance. What about you, my brother, P.? What techniques do you use?
Quote:Ra: True healing is simply the radiance of the self causing an environment in which a catalyst may occur which initiates the recognition of self, by self, of the self -healing properties of the self.(01-15-2010, 05:25 AM)peregrine Wrote: So simple.(?)P. Wrote:One mind/body/spirit complexes simplicity may be anothers complexity.P. Wrote:I have the understanding that you believe that healing is above you, that Christ consciousness is above you, that divinity is above you, that the One Creator is above you, and that any that do not hold these same beliefs are on a dark path.Curious conclusion.
P. Wrote:That being said, I do not share these beliefs. I seek to be one with the One Creator, and that I may be of service in helping those that seek any and such help in heir path to the same. I work towards the removal of distortion in this life, and as such have opened myself to all possibilities and catalyst required to do so. I am learning to enjoy the happiness and the suffering equally now, with an open heart and faith. I see the path as one of light and love, in each moment.I wish you all the best in your adventures!
"Although there are no mistakes, there are surprises". ~Ra
(01-15-2010, 06:12 AM)ayadew Wrote: Peregrinus: You are a healer already, being a conscious light in a sea of darkness. Oh, how bright you shine!
(01-15-2010, 06:12 AM)ayadew Wrote: My reality:
I know I exist.
I know I feel
I'm really not trying to be a trouble maker here, but I can't help wondering, who is the "I" there? Is it self created or is a construct that you are borrowing for awhile? And if so, who is the "you" which is borrowing the construct?
Or, alternatively, put another way, since the "I" above will no longer exist in some relatively short span of time, why put so much faith in it? After all, that which transmigrates is not exactly "you," is it? I mean, not the you you know as you.
(01-15-2010, 09:46 PM)thefool Wrote: [quote='peregrine' pid='9279' dateline='1263538103']
Where does "Not my will but Thine be done" enter into this?
All the time. A STO healer is not imposing his will upon others for healing to occur. He/She is just creating the opportunity for the healing to occur. In my opinion such a healer also should not take any responsibility upon his shoulders for the healing results. That is not the job of such a healer. The job is to tune himself, make himself available, expect the other to open his/her energy arrangement shields and let the intelligent infinity take care of the rest.
(01-15-2010, 02:48 AM)peregrine Wrote: How does one distinguish "healing attempts" from an ego trip, I wonder?
by differentiating between the Intention to heal and the promise to heal. by not taking credit. If one is really honest with himself, it is very simple to detect. Check your true intentions. Are they to become the messiah? or perhaps a cult or popular figure or just to help others achieve more harmony in their lives. Physical/ Mental and Spiritual.
(01-15-2010, 02:48 AM)peregrine Wrote: At what stage does one accept "reality" as Divine Will?This is another penetrating question. I have often struggled with this. At what point do I say I have done enough and may be there is nothing more to be done other than acceptance.
Acceptance does not mean cowardice. Acceptance comes from great understanding that All is Well. Acceptance comes from the Trust that all is happening according to the divine will. Try you must in all earnest but understanding all the time that results you don't control...
I thank you for your thoughtful reasoning.