08-06-2012, 09:26 AM
(07-29-2012, 07:00 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote:Quote:13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the first known thing in the creation?
Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.
13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolution?
Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.
Okay, my interpretation is that infinity, containing ALL possibilities, must be aware as this is one of one the infinite possibilities. So its not that infinity became aware and so on but instead infinity being infinity already had awareness.
From a 'time line' perspective it would go awareness and then focusing into the One Infinite Creator. Meaning that this awareness in infinity and the One Infinite Creator have always really existed in a simultaneous manner right?
First of all, how could any being spawned from the One come to know with certainty the origin of Mystery or Infinity?
Ra is a group of evolving fields of consciousness, just as we are, and can only relay that which it has come to know and experience, whether accurate or inaccurate.
It would be wise of all LOO students to remember this and to diligently seek for inaccuracies as they study to make sure they are not misled by mistake. Mistakes that could be made in the transmission or the receiving ends of that sharing of fields.
I will say that what I have picked up on is that Ra has, on occasion, used the term Intelligent Infinity when they meant to use Intelligent Energy.
If you re-read this material regarding the above quotes with that in mind you will understand the confusion. I think that Siren was unconsciously picking up on this as well.
Lsavedme, your interpretation does not consider exactly what Ra has said.
Ra specifically stated that "the next step" was awareness. A next step unarguably suggests next, or afterwards. Future.
Therefore Ra could not be suggesting that Infinity was already aware as you have interpreted.
But if you replace intelligent Infinity with Infinite Energy, you will see what I mean.
I suggest that what Ra is trying to tell us, is that this Mysterious Energy responsible for creation became aware of its existence.
And here we have the chicken and the egg paradox. Which came first?
How could there be anything before creation?
WHERE did such events take place if there was no 'where' for it to take place? Creation had not yet happened so there is no 'place' for the event of awareness to occur, nor should there be any intelligence of any sort where there is no creation.
Here we enter the confusion of semantics. What is meant by creation? Does that refer only to the material? Or will that also refer to any and all that might exist beyond the material creation? What exactly do we include when use the term universe? Some here are pointing to Ra's use of octaves or shifts in the creation process to account for the infinite nature of the universe.
Here we enter the dilemma of time/space. For as intelligence attempts to measure and calculate events, that very act of intelligent supposition itself creates time/space, where without intelligence to even consider or measure it, such a thing as time/space does not exist.
These paradoxes are unavoidable. They are created by the calculation of intelligence alone. Where there is intelligent calculation there is created paradox in the impossibility to solve the paradox.
I do not think that Ra meant to suggest that Intelligent Infinity became aware. I think that they meant to say that Infinite Energy became aware, in that as this Energy proceeded from its origin that very 'process of being' created awareness through its calculation of time passing, and experiences becoming past memory.
This is the true definition of Infinite Energy. It creates its own existence in the awareness of its 'process of being' within that existence.
Thought/Process of Being/Creation. Awareness/calculation.
Look familiar to any of you? Creator/Process of Being/Creation.
This is not a coincidence.
So the question remains, 'what is the source of this energy which became aware?'
We identify Intelligence with the Source, because we assume that this is where everything spawned.
We associate the energy of creation as the power or force of that Source.
So what if we reconfigure our thinking a little and suppose that this Energy, being available spontaneously with the Source, are one and the same, and cannot be separated?
Here we have this unity that is being spoken of, we have the One Consciousness and its creative ability, we have The All as a result, and what is left is the speculation of the First Event where both Source and Energy originate; Mystery.
But this does not correspond to what Ra has relayed to us. Ra clearly uses the words Intelligent Infinity and 'next step'.
I would suggest that a 'wise discerning' of Ra's word is applied here.
Unless, of course, that you are one who would deliberately choose to accept Ra as being omniscient and all knowing, having given you the solution to the chicken and egg paradox once and for all.
As Siren has stated, there is only One/Unity. And that is the definition of Infinity. No beginning and no end. One.
Everything else is and remains Mystery.
To attempt to comprehend Infinity is exactly what this Intelligence was doing from the beginning, which is what Ra is trying to tell us here, but not doing a very good of. Which can be expected of any field as it attempts to describe Mystery and paradox.
If the Source itself cannot comprehend its existence, shall we attempt to solve it? Shall Ra?
Awareness is not intelligence. Intelligence is the source of awareness.
Awareness is being.
A stone is being. A tree is being. Intelligence is not simply being. Intelligence is the Source of being/awareness.
Awareness is being, prepared to be, ready to exist. And in that state of awareness intelligence is born as being proceeds to experience and learn.
Awareness is not intelligence. It develops intelligence by its existence, and without intelligence it could not evolve. Intelligence and awareness are inseparable. They are One.
If we interpret Ra's message as 'the Source became aware', in the context I have just offered, we can better understand the true message being delivered to us.
The Source is intelligent infinity because in its infinite awareness it proceeds to be, proceeds to become.
Without becoming, without proceeding into the unknown, the uncreated, there is no infinity. And if there is no infinity there is no energy or intelligence proceeding.
All is One. There is only One.
It is my thinking and humble suggestion that when reading this Ra material we should use discretion when reading the terms Intelligent Infinity and Intelligent Energy, and rethink them as Infinite Energy and Infinite Intelligence.
And I believe that if you look for this within the Ra material that you will find both Intelligent Infinity also referred to as infinite Intelligence. It is my suggestion that Ra also confuses the semantics, or that in the transmission/channeling the terms become misaligned with their intended meaning.