Wow! such negativity... You people need to let go and forgive. Here is what I see here:
In your past, you have trusted David and he has let you down. I think he let himself down too, but you don't seem to be too worried about that aspect.
and what ignorant facts are you speaking of? If your point is that you are building your opinion of David on his past, I get that. You've made that clear. My point is that the 'red flags' that you are so concerned about have not been so apparent to someone who hasn't followed him as long. You will say "obviously, you are a lemming headed for the cliff!" but I would argue instead that David has grown up quite a bit.
Let's get real here. You are mad at David for making predictions that didn't come to pass. You are mad at David for not running away and hiding in response. The fact that he came back to the table drives you CRAZY. What does he know?!? He was WRONG.
Ok, well let's think about this. Predictions are tough. How many people on this planet make accurate predictions all of the time? If so, do they handle finances, cause i'd love some extra advice... My point is that predictions are by definition a guess. They are not truth. If you want to be mad at somebody, be mad at yourself; David is only sharing his journey.
As far as money goes, the only cash I have given David was to buy The Source Field Investigations. I do not malign him for trying to make a living through his work. He doesn't force any money from me, and for those who enjoy his lectures, i'm sure they would just spend that money at a big box store anyways, so I don't get too concerned about the funny money. It's just paper anyways.
If I look at what David has been doing for the last few years, it is not anything CLOSE to what he was doing even 5 years ago. He wrote the Source Field Investigations, which I found very very interesting and well worth the money. He has been watching and tracking the newsfeeds as he's been covering the China Surprise, Neil Keenan lawsuit, and the exopolitic scene over the last year or so. The lawsuits et al have completely checked out, but it still may be just a wild goose chase. Regardless, this lawsuit exists, and nobody can tell me our history is perfectly accurate. Should we ignore all these things and continue watching Dancing with the Stars or meditate alone instead?
Now this drives me crazy: you people who think you have a right to KNOW what is going on behind the scenes are like people in movie theatres who talk to the characters in the movie. You think the whole damn thing revolves around YOU. Ali brought up a great point earlier:
Why do you think it's all so easy? What if we WERE supposed to start transitioning to a more positive planet around the year 2000 according to the information at the time, but what's stopping the Orion or STS factions from getting in the way? It's like the last 3 updates from David; low on information, but in the most critical time ever for the ruling class on this planet, doesn't it make sense that things would be under the surface?
You all may not appreciate it, but his research into the news cycles finding some of the story lines underneath is really enlightening to me, and I was able to learn from it as well. He is now finishing up a follow-up book to the Source Field Investigations that should be released in the next year or two. These are good and productive things. He's holding his conferences where he gives people a lot of information and his time. Some people love his music, and some would love to meditate with him. Why do you hate other's love?
I just don't see his great exploitation on everyone. Yes, he did some stupid s*** in the past, but so did I. Like plenum said, we have to trust ourselves first, just as we have to blame ourselves first.
If you insist on hating and despising David, that is okay. Just understand that some of us don't need to be 'protected' from people like David. Some of us can love him and learn from him, even despite his faults. Again, without David's passion and without him dedicating his entire life to the propagation of the Law of One, I wouldn't be at this forum right now. It's easy for all of us to point out his mistakes, but David has completely put himself out there. This is a tough thing to do for anybody, let alone somebody who does what he does. I don't think any of us could deal with it, tbh...
In your past, you have trusted David and he has let you down. I think he let himself down too, but you don't seem to be too worried about that aspect.
Quote:Your self-submitted ignorance of public facts does not constitute an argument in your favour.
You started following David in 2011. I started following him in 2006, and on this forum some even know me as "The Guy Who Has Read Every Single Word David Has Ever Said."
and what ignorant facts are you speaking of? If your point is that you are building your opinion of David on his past, I get that. You've made that clear. My point is that the 'red flags' that you are so concerned about have not been so apparent to someone who hasn't followed him as long. You will say "obviously, you are a lemming headed for the cliff!" but I would argue instead that David has grown up quite a bit.
Let's get real here. You are mad at David for making predictions that didn't come to pass. You are mad at David for not running away and hiding in response. The fact that he came back to the table drives you CRAZY. What does he know?!? He was WRONG.
Ok, well let's think about this. Predictions are tough. How many people on this planet make accurate predictions all of the time? If so, do they handle finances, cause i'd love some extra advice... My point is that predictions are by definition a guess. They are not truth. If you want to be mad at somebody, be mad at yourself; David is only sharing his journey.
As far as money goes, the only cash I have given David was to buy The Source Field Investigations. I do not malign him for trying to make a living through his work. He doesn't force any money from me, and for those who enjoy his lectures, i'm sure they would just spend that money at a big box store anyways, so I don't get too concerned about the funny money. It's just paper anyways.
If I look at what David has been doing for the last few years, it is not anything CLOSE to what he was doing even 5 years ago. He wrote the Source Field Investigations, which I found very very interesting and well worth the money. He has been watching and tracking the newsfeeds as he's been covering the China Surprise, Neil Keenan lawsuit, and the exopolitic scene over the last year or so. The lawsuits et al have completely checked out, but it still may be just a wild goose chase. Regardless, this lawsuit exists, and nobody can tell me our history is perfectly accurate. Should we ignore all these things and continue watching Dancing with the Stars or meditate alone instead?
Now this drives me crazy: you people who think you have a right to KNOW what is going on behind the scenes are like people in movie theatres who talk to the characters in the movie. You think the whole damn thing revolves around YOU. Ali brought up a great point earlier:
Quote:The ascention 2000 matter might be inconvenient for him but I remind you that all the vectors at the time were pointing at 2000.. There's a very real possibility that the earth got a reprieve, we're in so called overtime. All the other things you claim did not come true are very much debatable. If you think in black and white binary then no. But if you think in two opposing forces wrestling each other then you cannot expect clear victories before all is done.
Why do you think it's all so easy? What if we WERE supposed to start transitioning to a more positive planet around the year 2000 according to the information at the time, but what's stopping the Orion or STS factions from getting in the way? It's like the last 3 updates from David; low on information, but in the most critical time ever for the ruling class on this planet, doesn't it make sense that things would be under the surface?
You all may not appreciate it, but his research into the news cycles finding some of the story lines underneath is really enlightening to me, and I was able to learn from it as well. He is now finishing up a follow-up book to the Source Field Investigations that should be released in the next year or two. These are good and productive things. He's holding his conferences where he gives people a lot of information and his time. Some people love his music, and some would love to meditate with him. Why do you hate other's love?
I just don't see his great exploitation on everyone. Yes, he did some stupid s*** in the past, but so did I. Like plenum said, we have to trust ourselves first, just as we have to blame ourselves first.
If you insist on hating and despising David, that is okay. Just understand that some of us don't need to be 'protected' from people like David. Some of us can love him and learn from him, even despite his faults. Again, without David's passion and without him dedicating his entire life to the propagation of the Law of One, I wouldn't be at this forum right now. It's easy for all of us to point out his mistakes, but David has completely put himself out there. This is a tough thing to do for anybody, let alone somebody who does what he does. I don't think any of us could deal with it, tbh...